mark of the beast

pauldla · 27-05-2019 03:14AM

branie2 wrote: »

You'll regret it on Judgment Day

Yeah but, shopping carts.

Cabaal · 27-05-2019 02:30PM

Always Tired wrote: »

I'm happy to receive the mark so that I may buy food but only if the wee chip will eliminate the need for a 2 euro coin to get a shopping cart.
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You can already unlock them without a coin!

http://www.trolkey.com/

like magic!

You could say its the work of the devil

Hedgelayer · 30-05-2019 10:53AM

Woe to you oh earth and see
For the devil sends his beast with wrath...

Let him who hath understanding recon the number of the beast.
For it is a human number

The number is six hundred and sixty six...

Guitar riff there after

harrylittle · 12-06-2019 07:30PM

another vision re mark of the beast ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6kmfmtunLc

harrylittle · 12-07-2019 11:28PM

more dreams on mark of the beast ....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vzY8o11Ffo

harrylittle · 28-08-2019 10:56PM

interesting prophecy on mark of the beast and britexit .....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIp6muLUCjY

harrylittle · 01-09-2019 11:08PM

more on mark of the beast and the amazon synod .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dre7e32a8XI

MistyLines · 15-09-2019 03:49PM

Personally, I think that if you are already Born Again then you won't be around to see the Mark of the Beast as you will already have been raptured. The technology is already here surely, but as we are supposed to be 'sober' and 'not asleep' we are supposed to see this technology and 'look up, for our redemption is near' Luke 21v8. I think the Mark of the Beast if for those who have come to Christ after the rapture, and it will be a deliberate Mark, people will know and understand what it is and what it means (nobody has it now, not realising it) and the Bible warns against those who have become followers of Christ against taking it.

harrylittle · 06-10-2019 09:09PM

another vidieo on mark of the beast ...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhVaUTmggxY

branie2 · 06-10-2019 10:31PM

MistyLines wrote: »

Personally, I think that if you are already Born Again then you won't be around to see the Mark of the Beast as you will already have been raptured. The technology is already here surely, but as we are supposed to be 'sober' and 'not asleep' we are supposed to see this technology and 'look up, for our redemption is near' Luke 21v8. I think the Mark of the Beast if for those who have come to Christ after the rapture, and it will be a deliberate Mark, people will know and understand what it is and what it means (nobody has it now, not realising it) and the Bible warns against those who have become followers of Christ against taking it.

The Rapture is actually never mentioned in the Bible

branie2 · 06-10-2019 11:10PM

Meeting the Lord in the air refers to His Second Coming

NaFirinne · 24-10-2019 02:59PM

How long do you think it is now before the Second Coming?

I feel we are certainly seeing the signs of possible end times in society today.

Things seem to be moving fast as well. Wasn't and increase homosexuality an vegetarians predicted as a sign towards the end? Also a return to sin like was only on the earth before the flood.

It will get so much easier to control money in the future - we already have google pay and apple pay which make it so much easier to purchase goods....once these technologies become the main method of payment - it won't be hard for these companies to introduce some sort of social acceptance rating and determine if your banned from using their services or not....Much like the way they ban people who's view they don't agree with from social media today.

I'd give it 16 more years possibly before the 2nd coming.

But the mark of the beast could be very much in by 2030.

Cabaal · 24-10-2019 03:42PM

NaFirinne wrote: »

I'd give it 16 more years possibly before the 2nd coming.

But the mark of the beast could be very much in by 2030.

I think we should sticky this for history's sake,

Just like we can look back at similar sentences for numerous decades and years, 2030 will pass and you'll be very wrong.

NaFirinne · 24-10-2019 04:40PM

Cabaal wrote: »

I think we should sticky this for history's sake,

Just like we can look back at similar sentences for numerous decades and years, 2030 will pass and you'll be very wrong.

Please do.

NaFirinne · 25-10-2019 05:16PM

Alayna Mushy Bagpipes wrote: »

All that can be said with certainty is that we are closer now than yesterday, however there are quite a few reasons to generally concur with your opinion, just a few of which I list below:

- The restoration of the nation of Israel was a prerequisite to some of the events described in Daniel and Revelation and simply dismissing it as a hookup between Evangelical prophecy followers/opportunistic political Zionists belies the fact that sometimes prophecy is given as an instruction to follow - in which case that particular preparatory piece is now in place.
- The infrastructure is broadly in place for global governance now where it would have been much more difficult in pre-Internet times.
- the final Roman Empire having strong links with the original Roman Empire (Latin influenced language, Roman Catholic faith retaining Imperial titles) but being a mix of iron and clay, suggestive of diverse cultures and ethnicity
- Widespread departure from the faith... this is most prominent in Western society (some parts of South America and Africa are bucking the trend).
- Per Rev 9:16, "And the number of mounted troops was two hundred million; I heard their number." This would have been an unimaginable figure at the time; the world population is believed to have been two hundred million in the 1st Century which John could not possibly have known or guessed.

Having said that, we do not yet have the restoration of the daily sacrifice in Jerusalem nor the Third Temple, it seems the antichrist won't be revealed until these are in place and it will take a significant change in the Middle Eastern picture before they become a reality.

Look up PJ Hanley studies on eschatology. There very interesting.

I'm not say I know the hour, I'm just saying that the season for all these things looks quite close now.

NaFirinne · 23-03-2020 10:59AM

Now that we have experienced Covid19 - Do people still think that End times are not drawing nearer.

Have a look at this

https://id2020.org/manifesto Now this looks to me very much the 1st iteration of the Mark of the Beast - as it will control everything through your Identity.

I'm also not an anti vaccines but what business do they have putting these id chips into vaccines?

I don't think they are really doing it for the good of people, I think they are doing it for more control of people.

https://www.biometricupdate.com/201909/id2020-and-partners-launch-program-to-provide-digital-id-with-vaccines

corks finest · 23-03-2020 11:07AM

jmreire wrote: »

If you believe in God, then it's possible, so it very much depends on the individual. Personally, I want nothing to do with imbedded chips, We are controlled enough as it is without our every move and action being monitored.. and what will happen when they will not only monitor what you are thinking, but can control that too????

Same ref imbedded chips etc it's a firm no no from me

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-03-2020 02:01PM

NaFirinne wrote: »

Now that we have experienced Covid19 - Do people still think that End times are not drawing nearer.
Have a look at this
https://id2020.org/manifesto Now this looks to me very much the 1st iteration of the Mark of the Beast - as it will control everything through your Identity.
I'm also not an anti vaccines but what business do they have putting these id chips into vaccines?
I don't think they are really doing it for the good of people, I think they are doing it for more control of people.
https://www.biometricupdate.com/201909/id2020-and-partners-launch-program-to-provide-digital-id-with-vaccines

Absolutely, their aim towards 'birth-to-death' unique, novel-biometric, blockchain, passiveRFID, DigitalID from ID2020.org is nothing less than exactly what you mention.
You only have to look at the founders/sponsors of this project to realise just how huge it is. https://id2020.org/alliance

The end date to Digi-ID is 2030 (Agenda21), so it's a long-game for the 1st 1.5bn in the developing world.
The rest maybe 2035. COVID19 does provide the ideal opportunity to ramp it up, exponentially.

It has some minor advantages, but this is outweighed by disadvantages.

NaFirinne · 23-03-2020 03:30PM

It's scary that they will put these into the vaccines.

I want to be able to take vaccines and not have to fear that there are chips in them.

This isn't really conspiracy now - this is real and their agenda.

What's the odds the corona virus vaccine will contain these without being publicized.

smacl · 24-03-2020 10:42AM

NaFirinne wrote: »

It's scary that they will put these into the vaccines.

I want to be able to take vaccines and not have to fear that there are chips in them.

This isn't really conspiracy now - this is real and their agenda.

What's the odds the corona virus vaccine will contain these without being publicized.

No offence, but chips in vaccines most definitely reads as conspiracy theory with a touch scare-mongering from where I'm sitting. Looks like we'll have a 12 to 18 month wait for a conventional vaccine to the current Covid-19 pandemic. I rather doubt injecting the population with evil nanobots is really anything anyone needs to worry about any time soon. The likes of CRISPR hackers would be a more realistic medium term concern.

NaFirinne · 24-03-2020 10:04PM

smacl wrote: »

No offence, but chips in vaccines most definitely reads as conspiracy theory with a touch scare-mongering from where I'm sitting. Looks like we'll have a 12 to 18 month wait for a conventional vaccine to the current Covid-19 pandemic. I rather doubt injecting the population with evil nanobots is really anything anyone needs to worry about any time soon. The likes of CRISPR hackers would be a more realistic medium term concern.

Did you read the articles?

smacl · 25-03-2020 09:16AM

NaFirinne wrote: »

Did you read the articles?

Yep, no 'chips' in vaccines. Simply collecting biometric IDs, e.g. fingerprints, and photography at the same time as providing vaccinations. Many of us already using the exact same biometric tools to do things like unlock our phones. Biometric techniques are also increasingly being used in passports. Perhaps you could point out where anyone has talked about injecting chips with vaccines.

4068ac1elhodqr · 25-03-2020 03:32PM

smacl wrote: »

Yep, no 'chips' in vaccines. Simply collecting biometric IDs, e.g. fingerprints, and photography at the same time as providing vaccinations. Many of us already using the exact same biometric tools to do things like unlock our phones. Biometric techniques are also increasingly being used in passports. Perhaps you could point out where anyone has talked about injecting chips with vaccines.

This technology already exists, and is the future benchmark for accessing services. It's a small RFID impnat, not exactly a large processing chip or computer.

3,000 folks in Sweden opted in for it.
In America companies have started RFID'ing their employeees, company in Wisconsin (80/250), and apparently, they're all "lovin' it".

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12110556

smacl · 25-03-2020 03:52PM

Callie Billions Author wrote: »

This technology already exists, and is the future benchmark for accessing services. It's a small RFID impnat, not exactly a large processing chip or computer.

3,000 folks in Sweden opted in for it.
In America companies have started RFID'ing their employeees, company in Wisconsin (80/250), and apparently, they're all "lovin' it".

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12110556

An RFID implant isn't slyly injected with a vaccine though is it? It is also not achieving anything you couldn't do with bio-metrics, albeit at a lower cost. My phone for example can recognise me via facial recognition and/or fingerprint. My genes can be sequenced as a method of uniquely identifying me to a far higher degree of accuracy and robustness than RFID could mange.

The issue isn't being uniquely identifiable by a sophisticated computer as that is already the case for all of us without the need for any implant. The issue is about storing databases that identify and track people and their behavior illegally and this issue is dealt with by society rather than technology, e.g. through GDPR.

4068ac1elhodqr · 25-03-2020 08:00PM

smacl wrote: »

An RFID implant isn't slyly injected with a vaccine though is it? It is also not achieving anything you couldn't do with bio-metrics, albeit at a lower cost. My phone for example can recognise me via facial recognition and/or fingerprint. My genes can be sequenced as a method of uniquely identifying me to a far higher degree of accuracy and robustness than RFID could mange.

The issue isn't being uniquely identifiable by a sophisticated computer as that is already the case for all of us without the need for any implant. The issue is about storing databases that identify and track people and their behavior illegally and this issue is dealt with by society rather than technology, e.g. through GDPR.

It certainly could be, at or as an additional few seconds task at that time.
Again it's nothing sophisticated, nothing large, nor powered (in the traditional computing sense).

The largest program calls for 'persistant, birth-to-death digital ID', which implies placement at time of birth.

This is a new 'type' of biometrics, along with a blockchain UID (unique code/serial), it can also contain a basic data string of any/all older more unreliable biometrics.
But this is secondary.

The digital signature, readable from 30meters(+) is the primary identifier.
As it's organically embedded, perhaps it can also pull data from it's environment also (genes/dna/biorthytms etc).

Your phone can also be very easily hacked, re-using your fingerprint retreived from a glass, or scale photo print.
It can also be lost, or removed in the blink of an eye or simply run out of juice at a crucial time.

Even the very latest FRS (street facial cameras) can be easily overloaded and/or rendered useless.
Gait algorithms can be tricked, and fingerprints denied. Sunglasses worn and voices distorted.

Including a RFID, verified by cloud & blockchain per each read, and those flawed older biometrics suddenly become more useful as additional 2nd rate verfications.

Yes it can be rolled out, simply by showing it's 'usefulness', or for harder persuasion, there may be in future denial of services without it.

3,000 folks in Sweden choose to pay for it themselves as a 'convience'.
Millions already place active audio network recording devices in their homes as 'convience'.
And the US company's employees opt-in for it in their hands, perhaps to be seen as 'good emplyees' and open to promotions.
None were forced, it was a 'convience'.

smacl · 27-03-2020 10:08AM

Nearly all forms of ID, including RFID, can be forged or spoofed though once you use them in combination this becomes more difficult. The point is, this isn't a problem of technology so much as how we choose to apply it as a society. Specifically who can access information that identifies us as being at a given location at a given time, and what actions cause us to waive our right to be anonymous? It is an interesting topic for sure but not one that I think has any relevance to the Christianity forum.

4068ac1elhodqr · 27-03-2020 01:51PM

smacl wrote: »

Nearly all forms of ID, including RFID, can be forged or spoofed though once you use them in combination this becomes more difficult. The point is, this isn't a problem of technology so much as how we choose to apply it as a society. Specifically who can access information that identifies us as being at a given location at a given time, and what actions cause us to waive our right to be anonymous? It is an interesting topic for sure but not one that I think has any relevance to the Christianity forum.

In which case, maybe you could ask any printers of the big book to completely erase this section (and all assosicate bits) on the next re-print:
Revelation 13:16

And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name.…

Fictional or not (not important), as it bears a remarkable, strong resemblance to the (existing, and proposed) technology, that allows 3,500 people in Sweden (and many corporates in the US) to buy their coffee and lunch with a wave of their RFID embedded right hand, and/or secondary biometric validation using forehead scan (Iris scan).

You could say it's far, far more realistic than e.g. the book of Genesis (or others), which claims full creation (without proof of concept), within a bunch of days, and bypasses the small matter of the dinosaurs and natural geology.

Proposals are for validation to use the latest blockchain technology, if you think that's easily 'spoofed', 'forged', maybe knock out an aul fake BTC (coin) farm, with a spare i7 Dell tower, for some real easy and quick monies.

As Joseph Goebbels used to say "if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear".

harrylittle · 17-05-2020 11:52PM

another video updating where we are currently with the mark of the beast http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9eCu-YHmao

Indian82 · 18-05-2020 07:46PM

Ferajacka wrote: »

I personally cannot wait for the chip to be introduced, it'll make it easier to travel, pay for things and track all medical and revenue records.Now if this is the mark of the beast as "predicted" 2000 years ago I find this facinating that people of that time could have insight into such technologies that might come in, years later.

I am not looking forward to the chip. End times aside, it also makes it easier for the state/govt to track EVERYTHING about us.

4068ac1elhodqr · 18-05-2020 08:04PM

Small update on the concept of chips, nanobots 'nonsense' etc, as some sort of tracking (processing) technology insertion.
None of this will no longer be required (nor any other type of processing or radio frequency emitting inserts).

Although it's been around for over 5yrs, only heard of it last month: (Quantum Dot Tattoo).
This is a game changer, superseeding RFID etc.
It's in essence, a simple small tattoo, but can also function as a unique digital identifier.
Is also perfect for scanning (like a bar code, from distance), and has further enhancement potential.

Yes, USPatents already exist for it (no need to ask who's behind it), along side another similar enhancement patent (again take a guess), for the body to actually self-process blockchain payments (buy and sell more securely).

So regardless of whatever is in the Bible (even if that is pure coincidence), there now is the viability to use this new technology (QDT) as a primary DigitalID (identifier).

It's also perfectly suitable (as subtle vaccine combination) for the 7bn (v1) doses of the wuflu vaccine to be rolled out with the next year or so.
It will be billed as a simple 'immunity certificate' (more reliable than messing out with smart phone bluetooth) but has greater end use potential, than just this 'certification'.

mark of the beast

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