CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Kermit.de.frog · 25-03-2020 01:11AM

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1242470716261437443

MipMap · 25-03-2020 01:13AM

An Ri rua wrote: »

You've really got to wonder about all of the idiots who came back from Spain etc. Whether they've had the cop on to self isolate when they didn't have the cop on two weeks previous to not go abroad.
Spain is becoming a real European worry now. Some of that worry must be coming our way also.

Lived in Spain For 20 years.
They are fantastic people. When it is our turn they will flock to assist us
because that is the way they are. We are all Europeans and we need to stick together.

murpho999 · 25-03-2020 01:14AM

eagle eye wrote: »

You know it's ludicrous in here where people are blaming Trump for everything but it's poor Italy and poor Spain and not a word about their leaders.

Becuase their leaders are doing their best in very difficult circumstances and were very quickly overwhelmed by the virus.

Trump delayed, denied and sneered at the virus. Refused to take action.

Played politics with it by calling it a Chinese virus or saying this is why they need borders.

Then he eventually had to back down as the numbers started ramping up. Assembled a team, huddle them all together on stage, shook hands with them al, whilst suspected of carrying the virus and pronounced what a great job he's done and gave himself a 10.

Now he's talking about stopping restrictions and claims they have a cure ready.

The man is dangerous, cares only about the economy and money and his hubris is costing people lies.

Spanish and Italian leaders are not like this, they're doing their best under extraordinary circumstances . They made mistakes but that is to be expected.

They''ve not made decisions that deliberately costs lives. Massive difference to Trump.

1800_Ladladlad · 25-03-2020 01:14AM

https://twitter.com/Bankofisland/status/1242581118714552326

25-03-2020 01:16AM

wakka12 wrote: »

I never said it wasnt old , I said there are many other countries in Europe and Asia with comparable age demographics. The way its phrased, is as if this is just a problem for Italy, its only bad there because they have such an old population, when almost all of Europe has an enormous over 65+ demographic exactly like Italy

Yes, but Italy has multi-generational families living under the one roof and/or keeping in very close contact. Its another factor working against them to keep in mind.

murpho999 · 25-03-2020 01:18AM

An Ri rua wrote: »

You've really got to wonder about all of the idiots who came back from Spain etc. Whether they've had the cop on to self isolate when they didn't have the cop on two weeks previous to not go abroad.
Spain is becoming a real European worry now. Some of that worry must be coming our way also.

Again people making massive deal about tiny numbers that are now coming into the country, mostly Irish citizens.

The virus is in our community now and spreading. That's where the fight should be.

People just to blame all the cases on those went to Cheltenham or Spain as if the infection rates were 100% there.

JP Liz V1 · 25-03-2020 01:19AM

Is China retesting every few weeks or months?

Tea Shock · 25-03-2020 01:20AM

Yes. The province of Lombardy is not much bigger than the province of Leinster but has a population of over 10 million... Where so many of them appear to be living in pretty full apartments. We're pretty lucky in comparison

citysights · 25-03-2020 01:21AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes, but Italy has multi-generational families living under the one roof and/or keeping in very close contact. Its another factor working against them to keep in mind.

Yes it may be but shouldn’t make us complacent and I’m not suggesting you are saying that.I thought I read somewhere before that Ireland and UK have some of the smallest houses/ properties in Europe in terms of square feet or whatever. But true that multi generational families don’t tend to live together here.

25-03-2020 01:21AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes, but Italy has multi-generational families living under the one roof and/or keeping in very close contact. Its another factor working against them to keep in mind.

Yeah, really big factor compared to say Ireland where people are living in Dublin away from their parents and having spent Christmas with them, aren't going home as much in January.

vladmydad · 25-03-2020 01:22AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Again people making massive deal about tiny numbers that are now coming into the country, mostly Irish citizens.

The virus is in our community now and spreading. That's where the fight should be.

People just to blame all the cases on those went to Cheltenham or Spain as if the infection rates were 100% there.

You went to Cheltenham didn’t you ?

MipMap · 25-03-2020 01:22AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is China retesting every few weeks or months?

You cannot depend on any information that comes out of China.

murpho999 · 25-03-2020 01:24AM

vladmydad wrote: »

You went to Cheltenham didn’t you ?

No I didn't and it should never have gone ahead but the Brits were in denial than,

My point is though that people seem to think that every Irish person who came back was infected and they weren't. People are just looking for scapegoats.

citysights · 25-03-2020 01:25AM

MipMap wrote: »

You cannot depend on any information that comes out of China.

That’s the worry.

25-03-2020 01:26AM

I'm really confused. Is there a link to the new criteria for getting a test? I don't understand what qualifies you for a test.

BorneTobyWilde · 25-03-2020 01:27AM

And up two places to 3rd is USA, But still no 1 after 12 weeks is China with Coronavirus .

25-03-2020 01:29AM

citysights wrote: »

That’s the worry.

I agree. It would be very concerning that a country taking China's extreme measures had no success with them. It would make the economic collapse we're going through as a result of doing a fraction of what they did seem pretty pointless.

Jurgen Klopp · 25-03-2020 01:31AM

Irish couple who returned to China and put into quarantine, the self entitlement is unbelievable given the circumstances

Moaning how they should have been allowed self isolate at their apartment, they were freezing cold, it's like a prison, they should have been informed they'd have to quarantine in a hotel so they "could have the luxury of making a decision whether to return"

https://www.thejournal.ie/hotel-room-quarantine-china-irish-woman-5055968-Mar2020/

Im not actually able like

25-03-2020 01:31AM

citysights wrote: »

Yes it may be but shouldn’t make us complacent and I’m not suggesting you are saying that.I thought I read somewhere before that Ireland and UK have some of the smallest houses/ properties in Europe in terms of square feet or whatever. But true that multi generational families don’t tend to live together here.

Absolutely, it should not make us complacent. Hopefully those currently living away from their parents, do not visit them if they can look after themselves. Makes you think though about the terrible plight of the dependent elderly whether in nursing homes or who are still at home but need a carer looking after them who has to come in every day. The nursing homes are isolated as much as possible but those people at home that must have outside assistance seem very vulnerable to potential infection to me.

Tea Shock · 25-03-2020 01:31AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm really confused. Is there a link to the new criteria for getting a test? I don't understand what qualifies you for a test.

A mate of mine obviously has it. Been waiting for a test for a week now. Can't leave the house. Lives with two elderly parents

bekker · 25-03-2020 01:32AM

MipMap wrote: »

You cannot depend on any information that comes out of China.

Just where did you think that the population infection data, and medical studies that the WHO, ECDC, and HSE are basing their decisions upon came from?

BorneTobyWilde · 25-03-2020 01:33AM

Louisiana has 4.66m people. 1388 cases, same as Ireland, with 216 new cases and 46 deaths . Louisiana is a real hot spot, I'm not sure we are doing too good.

25-03-2020 01:33AM

Tea Shock wrote: »

A mate of mine obviously has it. Been waiting for a test for a week now. Can't leave the house. Lives with two elderly parents

Yeah there's a lot of people waiting. It's awful. But apparently today they changed the criteria for testing. So whereas yesterday just a cough or just a sore throat was enough to get tested, now it's different. But I'd like to know in what way? What now qualifies you for a test?

Ficheall · 25-03-2020 01:34AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1242470716261437443

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8136299/Doctors-turns-one-ventilator-nine-genius-DIY-mechanics.html
(I know it's the Daily Mail, but I think it's legit.)

JP Liz V1 · 25-03-2020 01:34AM

Tea Shock wrote: »

A mate of mine obviously has it. Been waiting for a test for a week now. Can't leave the house. Lives with two elderly parents

Did he consult his GP? I don't understand the long test wait period still now considering the new test centres and kits

citysights · 25-03-2020 01:36AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I agree. It would be very concerning that a country taking China's extreme measures had no success with them. It would make the economic collapse we're going through as a result of doing a fraction of what they did seem pretty pointless.

Yes they could be lying about their numbers, at the start before they shut down online discussion over there people were saying there that the figures were much higher than the official ones.

fritzelly · 25-03-2020 01:37AM

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

Irish couple who returned to China and put into quarantine, the self entitlement is unbelievable given the circumstances

Moaning how they should have been allowed self isolate at their apartment, they were freezing cold, it's like a prison, they should have been informed they'd have to quarantine in a hotel so they "could have the luxury of making a decision whether to return"

https://www.thejournal.ie/hotel-room-quarantine-china-irish-woman-5055968-Mar2020/

Im not actually able like

Wonder if they've got the few thousand euro to pay for their quarantine

marilynrr · 25-03-2020 01:38AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah there's a lot of people waiting. It's awful. But apparently today they changed the criteria for testing. So whereas yesterday just a cough or just a sore throat was enough to get tested, now it's different. But I'd like to know in what way? What now qualifies you for a test?

Now you need to have 2 of the main symptoms.
Fever and a sign of some respiratory distress such as coughing or shortness of breath.
I'm not sure if a sore throat qualifies.

25-03-2020 01:39AM

bekker wrote: »

Just where did you think that the population infection data, and medical studies that the WHO, ECDC, and HSE are basing their decisions upon came from?

But could this all be inaccurate to a certain extent if data is modelled excluding the 43,000 symptomless carriers? (If its true they were deliberately kept out of official stats).

MipMap · 25-03-2020 01:40AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm really confused. Is there a link to the new criteria for getting a test? I don't understand what qualifies you for a test.

I think you now need to have a dry cough and a temperature.
They are tweaking the criteria to try to cut down the number of people who get referred for a test. In the beginning they would only test you if you had symptoms and had recently been to Italy or China. Now you need 2 symptoms to qualify.

It does not matter. If you feel sick ring your GP. He will advise you and tell you what to do.

We are far too focused on this testing business. It's primary purpose is to isolate possible case, find some of their contacts and isolate them. It has nothing to do with caring for you because there are no treatments for Covid 19.

The normal rules still apply - talk to your GP and if he is not available and you are in a bad way call for an ambulance.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP