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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • #6842
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    I had it, I think it has been proved it was a bad strain of the ordinary flu,a number of older people died in this area when it was here though.

    Any proof?


  • #6843
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,390 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Thanks. It's a theory that has yet to be tested according to the researcher. If 50% have already got the virus then there would have already been a huge spike in ICU requirements. Plus a spike in mortality rates.

    It's certainly an 'out there' theory. The Oxford guys are claiming the UK shouldn't even be under lockdown as Covid has been widespread in the country for months (!)


  • #6844
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,801 ✭✭✭threeball


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Thanks. It's a theory that has yet to be tested according to the researcher. If 50% have already got the virus then there would have already been a huge spike in ICU requirements. Plus a spike in mortality rates.

    It makes no sense that they wouldn't have deaths til March if that was the case. Worrying that a university professor can not see the obvious flaws in his thinking.


  • #6845
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Hospitals in Atlanta and Michigan in the states have ran out of ICU beds
    https://twitter.com/shongables/status/1242548471455981569
    https://twitter.com/GaryMiles_DN/status/1242578029035085828

    And now you start to see the death rates in the US on a near vertical line


  • #6846
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Strazdas wrote: »
    It's certainly an 'out there' theory. The Oxford guys are claiming the UK shouldn't even be under lockdown as Covid has been widespread in the country for months (!)

    If these Oxford guys genuinely think half of Britain has already contracted this virus then a simply antibody test on a small sample study of a few dozen random citizens would back up their bold claims


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  • #6847
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group at Oxford University believe coronavirus has been circulating in the UK since at least mid-January.

    https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

    Little suggestion for anyone posting links to premium content - use http://archive.ph/ so we can all read it


  • #6848
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    The EUs silence on this absolutely startling. Brexit is beginning to look like a very wise move perhaps pointless though as the EU will likely be irelevant when this is all over as countries will want to take their borders back.


  • #6849
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Strazdas wrote: »
    It's certainly an 'out there' theory. The Oxford guys are claiming the UK shouldn't even be under lockdown as Covid has been widespread in the country for months (!)

    Covid19 imo has been around for 3-4 months. There was a bug doing the rounds that i had with all the symptoms of covid


  • #6850
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    threeball wrote: »
    It makes no sense that they wouldn't have deaths til March if that was the case. Worrying that a university professor can not see the obvious flaws in his thinking.

    The deaths are largely because of overcrowded hospitals. During the beginning stages, if you got it, you had a far higher chance of surviving than you do now.

    So it does actually make sense. And deaths before this was a "thing" would have been put down as pneumonia etc.


  • #6851
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Yes worse ever, needed two courses of steroids and antibiotics to finally clear, I'm asthmatic but never had that bad

    Just curious. Why weren't you treated with antivirals, since flu is viral?


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  • #6852
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,142 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    iguana wrote: »
    Ok, so I went back and started reading some of the earlier threads. And back on thread two there was a little speculation about the really bad flu that was going around at Christmas with very, very similar symptoms to Covid-19. So out of curiosity I started googling and lots of countries were either reporting an unexpectedly early and large flu surge from December 27-31st 2019 or, like Malaysia denying claims they were experiencing a surge in flu cases.
    ...

    If that was the case then the health systems across the world would have noticed all these people requiring ICU's
    They also do plenty of tests to verify if people do have flu
    So the theory is out the window - it was just a bad strain of flu


  • #6853
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    threeball wrote: »
    It makes no sense that they wouldn't have deaths til March if that was the case. Worrying that a university professor can not see the obvious flaws in his thinking.

    Yeh I dont get it either. Like I heard people say its been circulating in Italy for months..undected...then suddenly when they start testing in February and find out there are a lot of cases it just so happens there are so many severe cases the entire country's hospitals become full in a week and thousands of people die in a matter of days? It seems like a ridiculous theory to me


  • #6854
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    You're completely wrong there unfortunately. Check the HSE website. You are not supposed to go for walks alone if you are self isolating.

    I understood this as not being able to go for walks too


  • #6855
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Covid19 imo has been around for 3-4 months. There was a bug doing the rounds that i had with all the symptoms of covid

    Is that the really bad one that was doing the rounds in Ireland that was confirmed to be a strain of influenza?

    If COVID-19 was in Ireland back then the ICU's would be overflowing months ago.


  • #6856
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I think some strain of CoronaVirus was in Ireland in December January, that flu was brutal and strong
    Were you referring to SARS2-COVID-19 or 'flu.

    Coronaviruses are a large family of ribonucleic acid (RNA) viruses capable of infecting humans and a number of animal species. In humans, coronaviruses may cause a range of illnesses from the common cold to severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS).


  • #6857
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,178 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    davedanon wrote: »
    Just curious. Why weren't you treated with antivirals, since flu is viral?

    Sorry excuse my ignorance is that not antibiotics :o:confused: if not what is antivirals?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #6858
    Corkgirl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    On South China morning post , it says that 43,000 in China tested positive for the virus but had no symptoms. These people were not included in the number of confirmed cases in China (81,000).
    Seems a bit odd that 1/3 of the population had no symptoms.
    Does anybody have any info if the asymptotic people can still pass it onto others ? Can they later get the virus with symptoms or are they immune?

    I know nobody probably has the answers, I’m just trying to work this out in my head.


  • #6859
    Mwengwe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    I understood this as not being able to go for walks too

    I think the NHS guidelines are more relaxed on this, may be where the confusion lies.


  • #6860
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,180 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    https://twitter.com/TheGlare_TM/status/1242524564011257857

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  • #6861
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Why - someone else whose child is in posted that it was true

    Why would parents not be allowed in with kids if this is true?


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  • #6862
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    YFlyer wrote: »
    I like the ole drink. Joke about it. Don't see it essential.

    It not essential , just imagine the scene if the offies were to shut indefinitely tonight at 10:00pm. Thats the only reason theyll stay open.


  • #6863
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Any proof?

    that people died or that it was another strain of flu ?The exact strain was given in another thread in a convincing post, I can't remember which thread but it's a post I chose to believe


  • #6864
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,801 ✭✭✭threeball


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The deaths are largely because of overcrowded hospitals. During the beginning stages, if you got it, you had a far higher chance of surviving than you do now.

    So it does actually make sense. And deaths before this was a "thing" would have been put down as pneumonia etc.

    In that case why is it decimating Italy but had no real traction here and only kicking off in the UK. If it's here since December and it only originated in late November how is Italy so far ahead.

    They also know exactly the origin of the Italian infection and the problems spiralled from there. It's not plausible to say it's been around almost 4 months and no one noticed.


  • #6865
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    murpho999 wrote: »
    It's not really. Your statement is untrue. See below.



    So how do you explain that. Travel abroad means Irish people who went abroad and came home and we can't stop that.

    I doubt that there's many foreigners coming in.

    Business meetings are cancelled, hotels are empty, tourist attractions shut down, Patrick's Day was cancelled.

    No reason for people to come here.
    Also they're staying at home too.

    The claims about foreigners and shutting down airports is just xenophobia.

    People were still coming to Ireland up until last weekend. Flights were full from America for example


  • #6866
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Covid19 imo has been around for 3-4 months. There was a bug doing the rounds that i had with all the symptoms of covid


    Every winter there is a "Bad Dose" going around. That is why everyone over 60 gets a flu jab.


  • #6867
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    People were still coming to Ireland up until last weekend. Flights were full from America for example

    be careful or trump will be calling it the Irish flu


  • #6868
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,178 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    bekker wrote: »
    Were you referring to SARS2-COVID-19 or 'flu.

    Coronaviruses are a large family of ribonucleic acid (RNA) viruses capable of infecting humans and a number of animal species. In humans, coronaviruses may cause a range of illnesses from the common cold to severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS).

    Is there many strains of CoronaVirus? Is Sars and Covid19 different strains?

    I'm confusing myself more now
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #6869
    davedanon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Sorry excuse my ignorance is that not antibiotics :o:confused: if not what is antivirals?

    Antibiotics are only for infections, caused by bacteria. They don't work on viruses.
    I'm asthmatic as well, so I can appreciate the need for steroids. I was just curious about the anti-b's.


  • #6870
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    be careful or trump will be calling it the Irish flu


    fcking Shamrock


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  • #6871
    dePeatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭dePeatrick


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Yes worse ever, needed two courses of steroids and antibiotics to finally clear, I'm asthmatic but never had that bad
    Interesting, GPs in Wuhan and Northern Italy have been saying that they had been seeing a particularly aggressive type of pneumonia in patients for three months before Coronavirus was identified.


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