CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

maebee · 25-03-2020 12:48AM

I shared a what's app of a vid of ppl in cars queuing for testing today in Pairc Ui Chaoimh (don't know how to share it here) to a friend in Scotland, who was baffled by it. He's (loosely) in the medical profession and told me that there's no such thing as "public" testing there. It's only done when you get to the hospital stage. If you want to get a private test it will cost you £350 !!!. He was amazed when I told him that we've set up 30+ centres in the past week and that ppl with symptoms are getting tested for free. This little island of ours is a million miles ahead of the "big boys".

bekker · 25-03-2020 12:48AM

dougm1970 wrote: »

i dunno.
for instance, its expecting every single adult (single as in not married or a couple)....to not have sex for year.....can humans do that ?

(note - the quote was referring to someone who posted about a year or more social distancing)

Whether they can or not, they won't.

Loafing Oaf · 25-03-2020 12:49AM

Steve F wrote: »

5.A hope that warmer weather slows the spread.

Strazdas wrote: »

CNN reporting that Louisiana has become an unlikely hotspot. Case numbers rocketing up and 26 people have already died.

Seemingly 27C in New Orleans right now. So a hotspot in every sense:(

dougm1970 · 25-03-2020 12:50AM

Steve F wrote: »

Yes.
Even before this outbreak I had begun to notice a particular trait in some people where they couldn't tolerate a moment's inconvenience.
Spoilt beyond belief.You know the type I mean?Ones that would have a breakdown because their phone battery didn't last as long as they thought it would or their wasn't enough cheese in their Big Mac.
How dare we expect them to stay away from people for a few weeks to save lives?
The temerity of it
NB This isn't aimed at any particular race or nationality.I have noted it nearly everywhere I have been

you quoted a poster saying a few weeks to save lives....when that posters quote was replying to a poster speaking about a year or more of social distancing

Mwengwe · 25-03-2020 12:51AM

Steve F wrote: »

Yes.
Even before this outbreak I had begun to notice a particular trait in some people where they couldn't tolerate a moment's inconvenience.
Spoilt beyond belief.You know the type I mean?Ones that would have a breakdown because their phone battery didn't last as long as they thought it would or their wasn't enough cheese in their Big Mac.
How dare we expect them to stay away from people for a few weeks to save lives?
The temerity of it
NB This isn't aimed at any particular race or nationality.I have noted it nearly everywhere I have been

It's not a few weeks, it's 12-18 months possibly. I personally would breeze through this if I knew it was going to be just for 12 weeks or so. What we're looking at is going to be very difficult and unprecedented.
Humans aren't meant to be isolated for long periods of time. There will be long-term effects and you can't just dismiss it with 'don't be so spoilt, do your duty'.

Steve F · 25-03-2020 12:51AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Seemingly 27C in New Orleans right now. So a hotspot in every sense:(

Hummmm
That's that theory gone for a Burton then ☹️

wakka12 · 25-03-2020 12:53AM

Hospitals in Atlanta and Michigan in the states have ran out of ICU beds
https://twitter.com/shongables/status/1242548471455981569
https://twitter.com/GaryMiles_DN/status/1242578029035085828

Loafing Oaf · 25-03-2020 12:54AM

Steve F wrote: »

Hummmm
That's that theory gone for a Burton then ☹️

Might be a sudden thing though, seemingly they have very changeable weather...

Steve F · 25-03-2020 12:54AM

dougm1970 wrote: »

you quoted a poster saying a few weeks to save lives....when that posters quote was replying to a poster speaking about a year or more of social distancing

A few weeks to save lives yes
Then social distancing to keep it slowed for 12 to 18
Not something any of us is relishing
What other options do we have?☹️

Steve F · 25-03-2020 12:56AM

Mwengwe wrote: »

It's not a few weeks, it's 12-18 months possibly. I personally would breeze through this if I knew it was going to be just for 12 weeks or so. What we're looking at is going to be very difficult and unprecedented.
Humans aren't meant to be isolated for long periods of time. There will be long-term effects and you can't just dismiss it with 'don't be so spoilt, do your duty'.

I believe it's more favourable than the alternative if we don't do it?

ACitizenErased · 25-03-2020 12:57AM

The Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group at Oxford University believe coronavirus has been circulating in the UK since at least mid-January.

https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

Mwengwe · 25-03-2020 12:57AM

Steve F wrote: »

A few weeks to save lives yes
Then social distancing to keep it slowed for 12 to 18
Not something any of us is relishing
What other options do we have?☹️

But social distancing is essentially staying at home and avoiding people, there's no real distinction there. The only difference is the level of enforcement.

owlbethere · 25-03-2020 12:58AM

iguana wrote: »

Ok, so I went back and started reading some of the earlier threads. And back on thread two there was a little speculation about the really bad flu that was going around at Christmas with very, very similar symptoms to Covid-19. So out of curiosity I started googling and lots of countries were either reporting an unexpectedly early and large flu surge from December 27-31st 2019 or, like Malaysia denying claims they were experiencing a surge in flu cases.

If Corononavirus was spreading in China from some point in November but not detected until the last week of January. Is it really so impossible that what was being assumed was a surge in flu cases on December 27th in the UK, Ireland and the US was at least in part an early spread of Covid 19? Were we really having an 'especially severe' flu outbreak in many regions of the world where "An early start to the season has left 2,092 people in England needing treatment for the contagious virus so far in 2019. By comparison, there were just 256 hospital admissions with flu at the same point 12 months ago." Right at the same time as a global pandemic of a virus which presents with flu like symptoms was already underway for several weeks?

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-hospitals-breaking-point-after-21172185
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7810129/Flu-cases-EIGHT-TIMES-higher-point-UK-winter.html
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/video/639365
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/12/552217/influenza-infections-still-within-normal-parameters-says-health-dg
https://time.com/5758953/flu-season-2019-2020/

Good post.

I wonder is there any development on a test to see if someone already got this Covid-19?

bekker · 25-03-2020 12:59AM

amadangomor wrote: »

Other generations did things like bring Hitler to his knees with great sacrifice and all we are being asked to do is stay on our couch and talk on skype etc instead of in person. Of course it's doable ffs

Doable certainly, comparable able to WWII, in no way.

Steve F · 25-03-2020 12:59AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group at Oxford University believe coronavirus has been circulating in the UK since at least mid-January.

https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

Well believe it

MipMap · 25-03-2020 01:01AM

dougm1970 wrote: »

you quoted a poster saying a few weeks to save lives....when that posters quote was replying to a poster speaking about a year or more of social distancing

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/1918_spanish_flu_waves.gif/330px-1918_spanish_flu_waves.gif

This is the graph of how the 1918 flue went.
In 6 weeks it peaked and then it took six weeks to fall and then it simmered on a bit - had a third wave and then died out.

These notions that it can last a year or more are not bourne out by history.

Steve F · 25-03-2020 01:02AM

Mwengwe wrote: »

But social distancing is essentially staying at home and avoiding people, there's no real distinction there. The only difference is the level of enforcement.

I was lead to believe social distancing is this 2m malarkey,plus not gathering together.

Staying inside or in your own Garden= Isolation

No?

arcticmonkeys · 25-03-2020 01:02AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Fair play to Simon. He's not well and doing a fantastic job.

Nice to see one of own speak so candidly and honestly. Cant imagine seeing any of the U.S or British politicans speaking to its people like that without it looking pandering.

bekker · 25-03-2020 01:03AM

owlbethere wrote: »

Good post.

I wonder is there any development on a test to see if someone already got this Covid-19?

Already comprehensively dismissed on the basis of viral DNA.

WHO et al

Apologies, intended to reply to original post.

Strazdas · 25-03-2020 01:04AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group at Oxford University believe coronavirus has been circulating in the UK since at least mid-January.

https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

Not only that, but they think half the UK population has it (or has had it in the last 2-3 months).

Jurgen Klopp · 25-03-2020 01:05AM

iguana wrote: »

Ok, so I went back and started reading some of the earlier threads. And back on thread two there was a little speculation about the really bad flu that was going around at Christmas with very, very similar symptoms to Covid-19. So out of curiosity I started googling and lots of countries were either reporting an unexpectedly early and large flu surge from December 27-31st 2019 or, like Malaysia denying claims they were experiencing a surge in flu cases.

If Corononavirus was spreading in China from some point in November but not detected until the last week of January. Is it really so impossible that what was being assumed was a surge in flu cases on December 27th in the UK, Ireland and the US was at least in part an early spread of Covid 19? Were we really having an 'especially severe' flu outbreak in many regions of the world where "An early start to the season has left 2,092 people in England needing treatment for the contagious virus so far in 2019. By comparison, there were just 256 hospital admissions with flu at the same point 12 months ago." Right at the same time as a global pandemic of a virus which presents with flu like symptoms was already underway for several weeks?

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-hospitals-breaking-point-after-21172185
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7810129/Flu-cases-EIGHT-TIMES-higher-point-UK-winter.html
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/video/639365
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/12/552217/influenza-infections-still-within-normal-parameters-says-health-dg
https://time.com/5758953/flu-season-2019-2020/

I'm actually open minded to this.

But if it was Corona surely we'd have seen at least a couple of countries getting whacked with large amount of deaths and full ICUs

Gone Drinking · 25-03-2020 01:05AM

Mwengwe wrote: »

It's not a few weeks, it's 12-18 months possibly. I personally would breeze through this if I knew it was going to be just for 12 weeks or so. What we're looking at is going to be very difficult and unprecedented.
Humans aren't meant to be isolated for long periods of time. There will be long-term effects and you can't just dismiss it with 'don't be so spoilt, do your duty'.

You know there's been multiple scenarios in the past where people have had to stay isolated in far more stressful circumstances, right? A well documented case was written by one Anne Frank.

And that was without the added aid of technology we have today.. we're not really isolated at all.

I agree this will have a negative impact on a small percentage, but the general populate will cope, as shown in history.

wakka12 · 25-03-2020 01:05AM

Are 50% of cases still in Dublin?
1330 doesnt sound like all that much for a whole country but 665 in one city seems like a lot actually

JP Liz V1 · 25-03-2020 01:05AM

Is there a test centre in every county now?

Professor Moriarty · 25-03-2020 01:06AM

Strazdas wrote: »

Not only that, but they think half the UK population has it (or has had it in the last 2-3 months).

Would you have a link to that?

Mwengwe · 25-03-2020 01:06AM

Steve F wrote: »

I was lead to believe social distancing is this 2m malarkey,plus not gathering together.

Staying inside or in your own Garden= Isolation

No?

All the same to me really, life is going to suck without being able to gather with friends. Even with isolation you're allowed go for a walk (once a day in the UK anyway).

Strazdas · 25-03-2020 01:08AM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Would you have a link to that?

Yes, the Daily Mail are leading with the same story :

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8148529/Coronavirus-infected-half-British-population-say-Oxford-University-experts.html

Jurgen Klopp · 25-03-2020 01:08AM

MipMap wrote: »

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/1918_spanish_flu_waves.gif/330px-1918_spanish_flu_waves.gif

This is the graph of how the 1918 flue went.
In 6 weeks it peaked and then it took six weeks to fall and then it simmered on a bit - had a third wave and then died out.

These notions that it can last a year or more are not bourne out by history.

Interesting.

But would that not be based on the fact it ripped through the entire population of a nation at the time?

We would seem to approaching a more catch and release with this amongst populations?

JP Liz V1 · 25-03-2020 01:08AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group at Oxford University believe coronavirus has been circulating in the UK since at least mid-January.

https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

I think some strain of CoronaVirus was in Ireland in December January, that flu was brutal and strong

Mwengwe · 25-03-2020 01:08AM

Strazdas wrote: »

Not only that, but they think half the UK population has it (or has had it in the last 2-3 months).

I'm not sure how legit these guys are but if it's been circulating that long there's a possibility I had it. But I'm sceptical. I feel like I remember this being debunked a few times.

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