CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1242482103457062913

Every time I see her tweeting about Trump I have an out-of-body cringe, she's largely to blame for him being in the White House.
But yeah, slay queen etc.

techdiver wrote:

Thanks for the reply. Sorry what I meat regarding the analysis of the test was not any Joe Soap from the street, I meant acquiring technicians from another lab environments that may not necessarily be diagnostic in nature. Still qualified but from a different line of business. (Perhaps that is what the HSE are attempting at the moment considering they wish to ramp up diagnosis?)

What i meant about qualified personnel carrying out the testing is that it is only done by Medical Scientists that are accredited by the Academy of Medical Laboratory Scientists (AMLS).

Three college courses in the ROI are accredited. Those with other science related degrees arent accredited and therefore not qualified to perform testing.

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So, I still can't understand this. Or maybe I can.

Britain 66 million.
Ireland 5 million
66/5= 13

Britain coronavirus deaths: 424
Ireland coronavirus deaths: 7
424/7= 60

Pro rata, Ireland should have 37 deaths.

What are we doing right or what are they doing wrong? Or what have they done wrong more likely.

My basic assumption is that often it's just a question of who's a few days ahead.
We're doing pretty much the same stuff as the UK, France, Germany.
Some places started a bit earlier, some a little later, none as late as Italy.

But I'm not aware of any country in Europe (bar Iceland?) or the US doing what's going to be needed to stop this.
Instead we've dithered and been indecisive due to a desire not to damage the economy and a defeatist attitude that it's just going to spread anyway.
We're now all looking at crises in our healthcare services and, ironically, a much bigger hit to the economy.

And still we're not doing what we need to do, which is what worked in S Korea.
Movement restrictions are just one part - at the same time we have to start doing huge amounts of fast turnaround testing to find & isolate cases, then massive scale rapid contact tracing / alerting, isolation and testing.

The testing and contact tracing we are doing right now is happening slower than the virus is spreading, so we are never going to keep it under control.
We need to get ahead of it.

Otherwise it's going to be one lockdown after another each time we start to lose control again.

samples good for 7-10 days confirmed.

stop spreading ****e lads.

I have to say I am extremely impressed with Tony Holohan who must be under tremendous pressure. His answer when he talked about the other consequences of the current crisis such as the effects on the mental health and the increase of alcohol consumption shows that he is looking at the current situation from a holistic viewpoint is very encouraging

froog wrote: »

dublin is getting out of control. it should be locked down wuhan style.

And the virus seems to be spreading there too.

Blueshoe wrote: »

Yes the workers in the health sector are. No doubt

Social welfare are doing well. Gardai and defence forces doing well. Courts Service still open for business too.

darjeeling wrote: »

My basic assumption is that often it's just a question of who's a few days ahead.
We're doing pretty much the same stuff as the UK, France, Germany.
Some places started a bit earlier, some a little later, none as late as Italy.

But I'm not aware of any country in Europe (bar Iceland?) or the US doing what's going to be needed to stop this.
Instead we've dithered and been indecisive due to a desire not to damage the economy and a defeatist attitude that it's just going to spread anyway.
We're now all looking at crises in our healthcare services and, ironically, a much bigger hit to the economy.

And still we're not doing what we need to do, which is what worked in S Korea.
Movement restrictions are just one part - at the same time we have to start doing huge amounts of fast turnaround testing to find & isolate cases, then massive scale rapid contact tracing / alerting, isolation and testing.

The testing and contact tracing we are doing right now is happening slower than the virus is spreading, so we are never going to keep it under control.
We need to get ahead of it.

Otherwise it's going to be one lockdown after another each time we start to lose control again.

Tis gas the people quibbling about the fecking economy when a pandemic is sweeping across the land. I reckon its a comfort mechanism for them, perpetuates the notion that some day they can go back to the selfish keeping up with the joneses craic they were at before the virus hit

blackcard wrote: »

I have to say I am extremely impressed with Tony Holohan who must be under tremendous pressure. His answer when he talked about the other consequences of the current crisis such as the effects on the mental health and the increase of alcohol consumption shows that he is looking at the current situation from a holistic viewpoint is very encouraging

He should also mention those who are currently awaiting treatment for serious illnesses, who have had it delayed due to the virus. There mental health will also suffer greatly.

darjeeling wrote: »

My basic assumption is that often it's just a question of who's a few days ahead.
We're doing pretty much the same stuff as the UK, France, Germany.
Some places started a bit earlier, some a little later, none as late as Italy.

But I'm not aware of any country in Europe (bar Iceland?) or the US doing what's going to be needed to stop this.
Instead we've dithered and been indecisive due to a desire not to damage the economy and a defeatist attitude that it's just going to spread anyway.
We're now all looking at crises in our healthcare services and, ironically, a much bigger hit to the economy.

And still we're not doing what we need to do, which is what worked in S Korea.
Movement restrictions are just one part - at the same time we have to start doing huge amounts of fast turnaround testing to find & isolate cases, then massive scale rapid contact tracing / alerting, isolation and testing.

The testing and contact tracing we are doing right now is happening slower than the virus is spreading, so we are never going to keep it under control.
We need to get ahead of it.

Otherwise it's going to be one lockdown after another each time we start to lose control again.

Couldn't have said it better myself!

Blueshoe wrote: »

Yes the workers in the health sector are. No doubt

Well I've been redeployed to contact trace along with a load of others, what are you doing?

elperello wrote: »

Good point and when Nial Breslin was trying to do something about it the smart crowd dismissed his efforts.

That’s because that lad is a right dose himself...

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Yeah exactly. Let's say I'm in my house with my wife and 2 kids and have been working from home for 2 weeks, rarely gone for anything other than milk. If I get tested, they're my close contacts.

If you'd been to the supermarket/shop, would the staff be traced?