CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Keith186 · 24-03-2020 06:48PM

Sono Topolino wrote: »

Italy has banned people from cycling, jogging and closed all parks. People are still dying in their homes. And still people here are saying jogging is ok.&#55358;&#56698;

Jogging jogging jogging. Do you post about anything else?

24-03-2020 06:48PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

The only thing I care about right now, is knowing as much about this virus and how to survive it as possible. And that involves reading as much as I can, and keeping up to date with everything and anything that might make the difference!

If others want to distract themselves with hobbies etc and distance themselves from the whole thing, as a coping mechanism... that's their choice. Good for them! Knock yourself out!

I don't need any coping mechanism. I don't need escapism from this situation...

It's a very serious situation, and I have no desire to ignore that or distract myself from it. I need to be razor sharp and focused for whatever might happen next... I can't do that if I'm distracting myself with pointless hobbies at this time!

(Nothing against hobbies btw - I engage in plenty during less important times!)

Trying to enjoy life isn’t a coping mechanism. I don’t have any problems coping. It’s an opportunity.

And the thing is about opportunities that you often only see them in hindsight.

But, staying ‘razor sharp’ is your prerogative. Go for it

24-03-2020 06:48PM

Sono Topolino wrote: »

Italy has banned people from cycling, jogging and closed all parks. People are still dying in their homes. And still people here are saying jogging is ok.ðŸ¥º

It is

cosanostra · 24-03-2020 06:49PM

See when the CMO release the figures for the day they're up til midday the previous day is that correct?

WrenBoy · 24-03-2020 06:49PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

Is there any light at the end of the tunnel at all? I'm by my nature a worrier and I can't see any green shoots here at all.......

Its very natural to worry, it'd be strange if you didn't but the best and brightest in the world are on the case and we seem to be doing a good job here in Ireland. Follow the advice, mind yourself and we'll get through it alright. And we'll have one hell of a hooley at the end of all this

le_girl · 24-03-2020 06:49PM

Question from a self employed person. A long shot but thought I'd ask.

If sales are way, way down but I've not completely stopped selling - can I apply for the €350 for now? Shutting everything down might harm my sales when I come back due to losing placement in the algorithm of the site I sell on. And it's so unpredictable as to when it will pick up again.

If we're still bringing in a trickle of income can we apply for this? All of the official info uses wording like "ceased trading" or "no longer earning" which leaves people like me hanging a bit in a grey area. This must apply to a lot of people though. Not everyone has had to stop completely.

SusanC10 · 24-03-2020 06:49PM

What time is the DoH Briefing this evening ?

cameramonkey · 24-03-2020 06:50PM

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Is it just me, or is public transport more packed today? There's at least twice as many on my bus right now as there was yesterday.

Have been watching DARTS going by my house all day, saw about 15 trains and I would say a total of 7 passengers maybe 8.

Shn99 · 24-03-2020 06:50PM

cosanostra wrote: »

See when the CMO release the figures for the day they're up til midday the previous day is that correct?

up until midday of the same day he is announcing them

Shn99 · 24-03-2020 06:50PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

What time is the DoH Briefing this evening ?

8;30

2Mad2BeMad · 24-03-2020 06:51PM

le_girl wrote: »

Question from a self employed person. A long shot but thought I'd ask.

If sales are way, way down but I've not completely stopped selling - can I apply for the €350 for now? Shutting everything down might harm my sales when I come back due to losing placement in the algorithm of the site I sell on. And it's so unpredictable as to when it will pick up again.

If we're still bringing in a trickle of income can we apply for this? All of the official info uses wording like "ceased trading" or "no longer earning" which leaves people like me hanging a bit in a grey area. This must apply to a lot of people though. Not everyone has had to stop completely.

Way I "think" it is, if your company is not earning enough to cover wages/bills/rented premises and your turning over no profit but at a loss from opening then it applies.

Could be way off but thats my reading of it.
But I'm sure my employer might read it drifferently

techdiver · 24-03-2020 06:51PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

1. No, only personnel qualified to work in clincial labs can process the tests.

2. Some helthcare professionals have their work suspended. Off the top of my head, staff that primarily worked in outpatient departments can be redeployed at testing centres to take the swabs.

You would think taking a swab is a simple task but it still has to be done correctly. 2 swabs are taken, 1 from the throat, 1 from the nose.
If you don't swab the correct area i.e right at the back of the throat and right up the nasal cavity then you won't get a good sample. The quality of the sample is so important.

This task cannot be just left to the public to do themselves as they may not take the swabs correctly. I say that because I see urine and feces specimens sent into the lab in every container you can imagine; 7up bottles, jam jars, pill bottles. Any specimen not taken correctly has to be rejected.

Thanks for the reply. Sorry what I meat regarding the analysis of the test was not any Joe Soap from the street, I meant acquiring technicians from another lab environments that may not necessarily be diagnostic in nature. Still qualified but from a different line of business. (Perhaps that is what the HSE are attempting at the moment considering they wish to ramp up diagnosis?)

Regarding the second point, I'm also not talking about leaving it to the public themselves rather just broadening the scope for who can perform those tests post a crash course in administering them. I'm not trying to denigrate the process, but I fail to believe that members of the public could not be trained up to perform this given instruction. In saying that, there seems to be more of a bottleneck in the analysis of swabs so increasing throughput in the taking of swabs is not going to speed the process up greatly.

SeaBreezes · 24-03-2020 06:51PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

Is there any light at the end of the tunnel at all? I'm by my nature a worrier and I can't see any green shoots here at all.......

Uk, Spain and Italy when at 1,200 cases had approx 30 deaths each.
We have approx 1,200 cases and 6 deaths.
Perhaps the lockdown has slowed the virus?

Maybe we are learning from the other countries.
I dunno, a fragile green shoot. Fingers crossed!

walshb · 24-03-2020 06:51PM

Are the vast majority hotels closed?

SusanC10 · 24-03-2020 06:52PM

le_girl wrote: »

Question from a self employed person. A long shot but thought I'd ask.

If sales are way, way down but I've not completely stopped selling - can I apply for the €350 for now? Shutting everything down might harm my sales when I come back due to losing placement in the algorithm of the site I sell on. And it's so unpredictable as to when it will pick up again.

If we're still bringing in a trickle of income can we apply for this? All of the official info uses wording like "ceased trading" or "no longer earning" which leaves people like me hanging a bit in a grey area. This must apply to a lot of people though. Not everyone has had to stop completely.

I thought I read somewhere that if you income dropped by 25% you could apply. But I can't remember where I saw that.

murpho999 · 24-03-2020 06:52PM

Sono Topolino wrote: »

Italy has banned people from cycling, jogging and closed all parks. People are still dying in their homes. And still people here are saying jogging is ok.&#55358;&#56698;

Maybe you should go for a run it will calm you down and release your stress,

stephenjmcd · 24-03-2020 06:53PM

wazzer1 wrote: »

Is there a list of essential services regarding work?

Looking for this as well. Only retail out from what I can see so far

murpho999 · 24-03-2020 06:55PM

Sono Topolino wrote: »

Italy has banned people from cycling, jogging and closed all parks. People are still dying in their homes. And still people here are saying jogging is ok.&#55358;&#56698;

Also, it's not in Italy but only Lombardy where it's a major crisis and the epicentre of the deaths.

So it makes complete sense to ban all sports (not just jogging which you have something against.)

A person going out for a run on their own is not doing any harm to anyone. Even if they breath on people in the 0.5 seconds it takes for them to pass by another pedestrian.

Boggles · 24-03-2020 06:55PM

That was an extremely poor press conference.

Leo was about as clear as mud

They have just created a pretty large communications problem for themselves.

Cork Boy 53 · 24-03-2020 06:55PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Uk, Spain and Italy when at 1,200 cases had approx 30 deaths each.
We have approx 1,200 cases and 6 deaths.
Perhaps the lockdown has slowed the virus?

Maybe we are learning from the other countries.
I dunno, a fragile green shoot. Fingers crossed!

As has been stated many times before the current number of stated positive cases is totally unreliable.

CruelSummer · 24-03-2020 06:55PM

Sono Topolino wrote: »

Loads of idiots out jogging in Rathmines. What part of “lockdown” do they not get?

Stay at home and buy groceries once a week! Even better, get it delivered!

Army should declare martial law.

What is wrong with doing some exercise? Why should people stop? It doesn’t increase social contacting, isn’t prohibited by the new measures, and keeps people fit and healthy.

murpho999 · 24-03-2020 06:56PM

Boggles wrote: »

That was an extremely poor press conference.

Leo was about as clear as mud

They have just created a pretty large communications problem for themselves.

Don't get this, it was very clear to me and the message was to stay at home. Simple.

is_that_so · 24-03-2020 06:56PM

cosanostra wrote: »

See when the CMO release the figures for the day they're up til midday the previous day is that correct?

Midday of the same day.

Drumpot · 24-03-2020 06:56PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Although this thread isn't for politics could SF not give them some credit.

That was an embarrassment of an interview, we are in an unprecedented situation and all they can do is still throw digs and pull money out of nowhere.

Put the people first and at least acknowledge the measures before you try and out do and political point score.

I hope educated people dont forget this when its over . . Seems like its driving SF nuts to watch our outgoing government do such an exceptional job and really looking like the kind of leaders alot of countries are lacking... I would say there are populations in other countries quite envious of us at the moment....

I remember Dr Aylwards conference (Feb 25th) that really blew this open:

- "Think the virus is going to show up tomorrow"
- " There was a report that showed this virus would be in every province within 120 days"
- "you take the approach, if this hits us we have to stop it. Dont act defeated" (UK/USA)
- "You have got to have enough ventilater"
- "You have to test"
- "You have to talk to you populations. They gotta know you are going to take care of them"
- "Talk to people who have done it, China have done it"
- "Time is everything in this disease"
- "Re-purposing of govnerment/resources as required worked for China"
- " Everybody has to be involved and pulling in the same direction"
- " Take a war footing to turn this around. Population needs to be highly sensitised to the issue"
- "Average onset to symptoms before showing in hospital was 15 days"
- "You gotta be as ready as possible, but you can never be fully ready"

Again, some countries trying to create a negative narrative against China. Yes they tried to cover it up initially but then they gave us weeks/months head-start to come to terms with it. They worked with WHO to get as much information out as possible.

I really feel our authorities here are trying their hardest to try and follow a lot of these recommendations within our restricted resources (testing capacity in particular). Our testing is less then ideal, but they are trying to address it. As he said "no matter how prepared you are for this, even the most advanced countries will not be prepared".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o0q1XMRKYM

Listening to Trump you would swear this virus snook up on everybody. We have had so much information , that we got from China, for weeks at this stage.

le_girl · 24-03-2020 06:56PM

2Mad2BeMad wrote: »

Way I "think" it is, if your company is not earning enough to cover wages/bills/rented premises and your turning over no profit but at a loss from opening then it applies.

Could be way off but thats my reading of it.
But I'm sure my employer might read it drifferently

Interesting. I'm working by myself and I'm probably at the point of just covering expenses like website hosting, broadband, etc so that would make sense.

DOCARCH · 24-03-2020 06:56PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Uk, Spain and Italy when at 1,200 cases had approx 30 deaths each.
We have approx 1,200 cases and 6 deaths.
Perhaps the lockdown has slowed the virus?

Maybe we are learning from the other countries.
I dunno, a fragile green shoot. Fingers crossed!

I'd suggest that it's more a case that that UK, Spain and Italy had (and still have) a huge amount of unconfirmed cases.

RollieFingers · 24-03-2020 06:56PM

Businesses can stay open I presume?The retail list lists one of the essential retail outlets as 'retail sale of office products and services for individuals working from home and for businesses'. I'm in tomorrow as normal anyways.

jos28 · 24-03-2020 06:56PM

le_girl wrote: »

Question from a self employed person. A long shot but thought I'd ask.

If sales are way, way down but I've not completely stopped selling - can I apply for the €350 for now? Shutting everything down might harm my sales when I come back due to losing placement in the algorithm of the site I sell on. And it's so unpredictable as to when it will pick up again.

If we're still bringing in a trickle of income can we apply for this? All of the official info uses wording like "ceased trading" or "no longer earning" which leaves people like me hanging a bit in a grey area. This must apply to a lot of people though. Not everyone has had to stop completely.

Taken from the Press release - it would seem that you need to prove a 25% drop in turnover. I know this is open to interpretation but worth checking

Employers must self-declare to Revenue that they have experienced significant negative economic disruption due to Covid-19, with a minimum of 25% decline in turnover, and an inability to pay normal wages and other outgoings, in accordance with guidance to be issued by Revenue.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 24-03-2020 06:56PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Trying to enjoy life isn’t a coping mechanism. I don’t have any problems coping. It’s an opportunity.

And the thing is about opportunities that you often only see them in hindsight.

But, staying ‘razor sharp’ is your prerogative. Go for it

If you say so, chief!

Good luck, and I hope you have lots of fun during this global pandemic...

murpho999 · 24-03-2020 06:57PM

Sono Topolino wrote: »

Loads of idiots out jogging in Rathmines. What part of “lockdown” do they not get?

Stay at home and buy groceries once a week! Even better, get it delivered!

Army should declare martial law.

There is no lockdown, where are you getting this from?

People have not been instructed not to run.

A person going out for exercise is encouraged.

By the way, armies don't declare Martial law, governments do unless there's a coup.

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