CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

RugbyLad11 · 24-03-2020 03:19PM

RE: the Irish medical workers coming back from Australia etc

I think it's mainly a good thing and fair play to them, however it also little bit ****ty as it leaves the hospitals they are currently working in a bit of a awkward position and will leave them under staffed

A lot of the medical workers in Ireland are foreign so imagine if they all decide to leave Ireland and go back to their country to help out.

bekker · 24-03-2020 03:23PM

Valhallapt wrote: »

Can we send them abroad?

Doubt it ! All countries will be pushing their own processing capacity to the limit, public in all countries that I have seen reports want a testing ramp-up.

The probable uselessness of older swabs is worrying as it makes a bollix of our current tracing methodology.

An Ciarraioch · 24-03-2020 03:23PM

Given yesterday was 1,125:

15% = 169
20% = 225
30% = 338.

fritzelly · 24-03-2020 03:24PM

xtal191 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Maclifeofficial/status/1242466850950144002

Who does he think he is?

Jizique · 24-03-2020 03:25PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

RE: the Irish medical workers coming back from Australia etc

I think it's mainly a good thing and fair play to them, however it also little bit ****ty as it leaves the hospitals they are currently working in a bit of a awkward position and will leave them under staffed

A lot of the medical workers in Ireland are foreign so imagine if they all decide to leave Ireland and go back to their country to help out.

Australian hospitals will be slower to hire Irish doctors if they fear that they will be left in the lurch like this in future

weldoninhio · 24-03-2020 03:25PM

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

My next-door neighbor works in a care home and her son comes to visit her every day at the house. He works security for the LUAS. The fact she's not taking the provided social distancing guidelines seriously is very worrying. The fact she works in a care home and her son works as security on public transport who then visits her daily has the potential to be catastrophic. He should be distancing himself because of the nature of his work and she should have more cop on!!!

It's the same with another house on my road. An elderly lady constantly has visits from the same people who don't live there. Kids coming and going in and out of the houses playing on the road.

Same with three houses across me, they are all related to one another and continue to go in between each other's houses. The elderly woman who lives in one of them has had cancer and has been in-and-out hospital. One house with the father out working, has a newborn, a 3 y/o and a 8 y/o were all out together on the green playing with other kids on the road and their parents.

That's has just been on my road alone so God only whos what its like on the next road over or my area, the county or Country. I know its been discussed many times in the past pages but those who were/are out in busy public spaces etc are simpletons. It's impossible to be mad at people who lack basic comprehension skills. They are that dense light would go around them. Just utter ticks!!

Jeez, your poor curtains will be worn out.

jobeenfitz · 24-03-2020 03:27PM

Antares35 wrote: »

Because they can't stay away from it :rolleyes: They spend half their lives there. I think it was late Feb when they travelled over. I'm so worried about them and also sad they won't be here when their granddaughter is born. I know it isn't the biggest issue right now, but just wish they had come home when it all kicked off.

Just don't get how it is so bad over there and no sign of rates decreasing:eek:

Im in Spain also. We are in lockdown like you say. There is food in the shops. If they are stíl clear of virus in a couple of days their highly unlikely to pick up virus cos not in contact with outside world. Even in shops everybody out here is wearing masks and at this stage less likely now, that infected people out and about.

We are close to peak here in Spain and with another 3 weeks lockdown they will be fine til then. By then the curve should be turning and things may start to get better.

Just stay in contact and make sure their using common sense until this is over. Same as if they were home.

Kermit.de.frog · 24-03-2020 03:27PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Given yesterday was 1,125:

15% = 169
20% = 225
30% = 338.

Kunkka · 24-03-2020 03:29PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Who does he think he is?

As cringe as it was he has people that he appeals to and it might get some people to stay in so it all helps.

yermandan · 24-03-2020 03:31PM

xtal191 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Maclifeofficial/status/1242466850950144002

This is absolutely INSANE.

Has to be the most complete example of a narcissist I have ever encountered

wakka12 · 24-03-2020 03:31PM

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-nearly-half-of-canadas-covid-19-cases-now-acquired-through-community/
Almost 1000 cases in Canada have no known origin, result of community spread

walshb · 24-03-2020 03:31PM

Kunkka wrote: »

As cringe as it was he has people that he appeals to and it might get some people to stay in so it all helps.

Utter cringe, but far more inspiring a message in comparisons to Holohan, who is now just an update machine...

No real sense of urgency from him or some others...

el Fenomeno · 24-03-2020 03:31PM

yermandan wrote: »

This is absolutely INSANE.

Has to be the most complete example of a narcissist I have ever encountered

Here, if he gets through even to only one tosser, then no harm done.

bekker · 24-03-2020 03:32PM

jackboy wrote: »

Could be another HSE screwup.

So, possibly the extra samples were taken for PR reasons to make it look like the HSE are doing something. But, unless there are more lab staff hired and new equipment purchased then these samples cannot be analyzed. This means that most of the tests will go in the bin rather than being analyzed.

Is this theory correct? Or am I off the mark?

I really hope so, there is a genuine need to control information on detailed location etc. to counter adverse/counter-productive reactions.

But it is starting to look more and more like the old HSE duck waddle.

is_that_so · 24-03-2020 03:32PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Who does he think he is?

A friendly face that everyone loves! Celebs have been at this all over the place. They mean well.

cloudatlas · 24-03-2020 03:32PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Who does he think he is?

ettravel · 24-03-2020 03:33PM

Cuomo is a class act.

walshb · 24-03-2020 03:33PM

is_that_so wrote: »

A friendly face that everyone loves! Celebs have been at this all over the place. They mean well.

Ask the old man in the bar that he sucker punched if he has a friendly face....

SlowBlowin · 24-03-2020 03:34PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Who does he think he is?

If it wasnt for the epidemic ironically its probably the safest time to go to the pub - when Conner is in lockdown...

Beasty · 24-03-2020 03:34PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Given yesterday was 1,125:

15% = 169
20% = 225
30% = 338.

What are you trying to show?

As is being pointed out repeatedly there is a significant backlog in testing. There is also a limit on the number of tests being done each day and a further timelag in delivering results after a test

Anything you see today will be on the back of 2,500 tests or so they did 1-2 weeks ago. There is not going to be much if any significance if the figures are up 30% or down 30%. We need to see much more real-time, or even recent, data before we can start to draw any conclusions

cloudatlas · 24-03-2020 03:34PM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Here, if he gets through even to only one tosser, then no harm done.

He didn't say anything when everyone was in the pubs drinking Proper 12.

Steve F · 24-03-2020 03:36PM

Antares35 wrote: »

My Dad had a stay in a Spanish hospital last year when he broke his hip. He said the experience was a hundred times better than the one he had here. He had his own room, faster healing time, better follow up care etc. But, like you said, it is easier to be at home. A broken hip is one thing (and routine enough), but a pandemic that could end his life is quite something else and I wish he was here I can't stop thinking about what will happen if they get it and have nobody with them. And it does seem like we have it under control and have fewer numbers in ICU etc. Spain seems like a total mess right now.

Yes...we are all hoping that.
My belief is two weeks from now we will know if we have dodged a bullet or not.
Moving forward tho we won't be able to go back the way it was.
to keep this thing at bay till we get a vaccine or treatment we will have to keep a lot of the measures still in place

techdiver · 24-03-2020 03:37PM

accensi0n wrote: »

It seems pretty clear from what you quoted:

'IT reported this morning that HSE confirmed to them that we only have the current capacity to process 33% of 4,500 daily tests'

This basically confirms my suspicion that the daily figures are pretty much meaningless. Whilst the motives and intention of the government and HSE are admirable, we are not processing this community testing in a meaningful useful way. Between the waits for testing and the delays in processing the results the figures are not going to be correct.

Many people will be free of the virus before being screened/tested and as was admitted by Doctor Holohan, many swabs may expire before being analysed. You might say, "so what?" The issue of not identifying people who were infected has wide ranging implications. People receiving negative test results are a "case closed" from a HSE perspective, so if they happen to have been waiting too long for a test and recovered there will be no contact tracing for that person. There will also be inaccurate infection figures and potential "herd immunity" figures as a result also.

What is the solution? I do not know. How "technical" is the analysis of tests? Can people from other disciplines be quickly retrained to perform this task? From a screening point of view, I don't see a valid reason for the staff performing the swabs needing to be health professionals. To me, anyone could perform that task. This is an unprecedented time in our history and we cannot view this from the perspective of what we previously understood to be normal. With that in mind we need to approach this crisis with a different mindset. I'm sure this is what is/will happen hopefully.

WrenBoy · 24-03-2020 03:37PM

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Here, if he gets through even to only one tosser, then no harm done.

Better than that wan from Ant Man who is ignoring the whole thing with the hashtag #businessasusual . Dopey Mare

Edit- Evangeline Lilly

kowloon · 24-03-2020 03:38PM

yermandan wrote: »

This is absolutely INSANE.

Has to be the most complete example of a narcissist I have ever encountered

I'm not so sure, if we're going to play top trumps narcissist edition I think I've already mentioned the guy in the top spot.

Martina1991 · 24-03-2020 03:39PM

bekker wrote: »

IT reported this morning that HSE confirmed to them that we only have the current capacity to process 33% of 4,500 daily tests. Apparently all the extra hospital base labs that were announced are tied up processing internal testing.

This is extremely serious, as it also reported that some of the tests may be too degraded to process.

We now appear to be in the situation of a 40,000 test backlog, and when 4,500 daily tests achieved a 3,000 daily processing backlog being added to the existing backlog of tests awaiting processing.

Though some of us here have long suspected the development of this scenario, it's still frightening to have it confirmed.

Is this the article you're referring to?
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-test-backlog-how-did-it-emerge-and-can-it-be-controlled-1.4210269

I don't see where is mentions only 33% of 4,500 tests awill be carried out. 33% of 4,500 is 1,350, and we're currently getting through ~2,000 a day as it is.

You said that the extra hospital labs are tied up processing internal testing. That means the plan is hospital labs will process Covid samples from patients that are in the hospital and its healthcare workers. Samples from the community will be sent to the NVRL.

The samples can also be frozen and stored if required to prevent sample degradation.

yermandan · 24-03-2020 03:40PM

kowloon wrote: »

I'm not so sure, if we're going to play top trumps narcissist edition I think I've already mentioned the guy in the top spot.

Can't argue with that in fairness

Larbre34 · 24-03-2020 03:40PM

ettravel wrote: »

Cuomo is a class act.

I'm expecting him to be acclaimed as Democratic party candidate for President at the party congress (which may or may not happen)

He is approx 15 years younger than Biden, Sanders and importantly Trump and shows a clear talent for management, leadership and inspiration. I would argue, that the Governorship of a wealthy populous state like New York is far more appropriate experience to be President than a Senator, Congressman or even Vice President. Also, he knows all of Trumps dirt from NY. All if it.

Martina1991 · 24-03-2020 03:41PM

jackboy wrote: »

Could be another HSE screwup.

So, possibly the extra samples were taken for PR reasons to make it look like the HSE are doing something. But, unless there are more lab staff hired and new equipment purchased then these samples cannot be analyzed. This means that most of the tests will go in the bin rather than being analyzed.

Is this theory correct? Or am I off the mark?

Way off.

kowloon · 24-03-2020 03:42PM

is_that_so wrote: »

A friendly face that everyone loves! Celebs have been at this all over the place. They mean well.

At the very worst he's doing no harm, so I'm not going to criticise him for this. It might wisen up some of the younger lads who won't listen to anyone else.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP