CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

intellectual dosser · 24-03-2020 11:09AM

iguana wrote: »

Most people with confirmed infections are told to stay home if not in difficulty. And are not being tested to prove recovery, instead they are told to continue to self isolate for 14 days after they last have symptoms. So we have no way of actually knowing who has recovered or not, though presumably many have and most will.

I figured as much, but would have thought recording the recoveries is pretty important in understanding rates etc. It would even give people a bit of a lift to see that number rise.

BluePlanet · 24-03-2020 11:09AM

Drumpot wrote: »

Did he make the connection between Diarrhea and people having worse symptoms or a more severe case of the bug ? I cant remember where I heard that, just curious if hes also seen this happen . .

I would also wonder that if people end up on hospital with breathing difficulties would a few of them forget or fail to confirm that they had diarrhea ? (when you cant breath, going to the toilet would be the last thing on your mind).

I've read about that, but no i didn't see any posts of his making such a connection.

sideswipe · 24-03-2020 11:12AM

MOR316 wrote: »

Finding some of this a bit baffling to be honest.

I've read about people having it and having no symptoms at all. So even if you feel fine, you could just be a carrier? Without it affecting you?

That can't be right, can it?

I'm no expert but all viruses act differently, herpes for example is a virus that people can have without ever getting a coldsore.

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2020 11:13AM

My choices today ! Stay in and stay safe or go out and run the Gauntlet to pick up some groceries

Volthar · 24-03-2020 11:13AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Of course it can. You are still 'shedding the virus'. That is the issue. Many people have it and feel nothing. Its why testing is so important.

But testing is done only when you have symptoms. I can be shedding it left right centre and will never know.

Boggles · 24-03-2020 11:14AM

The UK have a major communication problem.

It's not going to end well.

24-03-2020 11:14AM

MOR316 wrote: »

Finding some of this a bit baffling to be honest.

I've read about people having it and having no symptoms at all. So even if you feel fine, you could just be a carrier? Without it affecting you?

That can't be right, can it?

It is. It's why it's spreading so much compared to influenza. Basically a smart virus that infects, is pretty contagious, and for the most part, doesn't really affect people.

It would be far better if it made people very sick like the flu does.

DrumSteve · 24-03-2020 11:14AM

I don't post much in here anymore, but I've heard through work that there are further closures coming tomorrow.

*I work for a large semi state company.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-03-2020 11:14AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

No the Irish media is posting online happiness about the TOOTHFAIRY still being able to visit kids so don't worry. You couldn't make it up. They have lost all credibility.

https://twitter.com/TodayFM/status/1242356726852202501

The Irish media can no longer talk to adults about adult topics to its resorting to to talking to the nations toddlers instead. Lets see if the toddlers of Ireland tell them to do one.

Would you fcuk off with yourself and when you get there fcuk off some more.

Kids need re-assurance that things are going to be the same. You clearly don't have any children otherwise you would have some semblance of understanding on how important it is for children to know this isn't a doomsday scenario and that things that are important to them are still continuing.

cdgalwegian · 24-03-2020 11:14AM

MOR316 wrote: »

Finding some of this a bit baffling to be honest.

I've read about people having it and having no symptoms at all. So even if you feel fine, you could just be a carrier? Without it affecting you?

That can't be right, can it?

Still not answered:

cdgalwegian wrote: »

On a different note, anybody got any good sources for asymptomatic spread of Covid-19, as in from up-to-date medical sources, rather than magazine articles? I
read last week ( a medical report) that a few supposed cases that were deemed to be asymptomatic spreaders turned out to be symptomatic. Also, a key indicator of symptoms would be pyrexia, but taking paracetamol and brufen could mask this, so up-to-date info would be useful in this regard. The up-to-date medical info is surprisingly hard to find.

iguana · 24-03-2020 11:15AM

Cina wrote: »

You can have Covid-19 for up to two weeks before showing any symptoms.

And for many, those symptoms could be very mild when they do show up.

And, there does seem to be a correlation between rest and severity. It's not going to be across the board obviously but people who knew what they had right from the start and rest their bodies nearly completely, seem to have an easier time of it than people who thought they had a bit of a cold/fluey thing and forged on with work/sports/etc. So finding out you have it while being asymptotic means you are more likely to rest and treat your body carefully in terms of fluid and nutrition before symptoms start which may play a part in helping the body recover before it gets more serious.

Klonker · 24-03-2020 11:15AM

dan786 wrote: »

The number of cases of coronavirus in Italy is probably 10 times higher than the official tally of almost 64,000, the head of the agency that is collating the data said.

Thats over half a million.

I'd be surprised if it's less than 1m.

MOR316 · 24-03-2020 11:15AM

Volthar wrote: »

But testing is done only when you have symptoms. I can be shedding it left right centre and will never know.

This is the thing I'm finding hard to understand.

Me, you or anyone could have it, could actually not be affected by it whatsoever and then pass it on.

That's very scary

*This is just from what I've read. I have nothing medically factual to back it up

kowloon · 24-03-2020 11:15AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I think its a visual representation of someone getting their arse handed to them. By the way ..i agree.

Was catching up with the thread, seems the picture was already brought up. It's pretty reckless posting pictures like that; even if it's not stated to be relevant to current events people are sure as fcuk going to infer that it is.

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 11:15AM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

And if you have to be in an enclosed space , such as a bus, wear a face mask.

Source:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3074351/coronavirus-can-travel-twice-far-official-safe-distance-and-stay

I'm very glad my significant other hasn't taken public transport for past 4 weeks. I'm also lucky I don't have to take it. Once cases start popping up here, the writing was on the wall. People who are essential services and need to take public transport should 100% be given a mask of some description. That's a peer reviewed journal. It's fairly conclusive even at this early stage.
Government needs to connect key workers more.
If we need to beg China for masks, then that's what we should do.

Sweet.Science · 24-03-2020 11:16AM

Just to add - i live in a working class part of Dublin

Since we have been told to keep our social distance none of the kids of the street have been out playing whatsever

Fair play to them as the area is full of people over 60

Tea Shock · 24-03-2020 11:16AM

Boggles wrote: »

The UK have a major communication problem.

It's not going to end well.

27 Million people in the UK watched Johnson's address to the nation last night - 80% of the market, 41% of the entire nation.

I think they know

They just think the instructions are only for everyone else

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2020 11:17AM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Just to add - i live in a working class part of Dublin

Since we have been told to keep our social distance none of the kids of the street have been out playing whatsever

Fair play to them as the area is full of people over 60

Working class? Retired class it sounds more like

iguana · 24-03-2020 11:18AM

intellectual dosser wrote: »

I figured as much, but would have thought recording the recoveries is pretty important in understanding rates etc. It would even give people a bit of a lift to see that number rise.

It would. But when we don't have enough ability to test all symptomatic people then testing confirmed cases who are now well can't really happen.

Dymo · 24-03-2020 11:18AM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

London tube this morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AjZtUnjB44

Why are they constantly reporting a lockdown,

Boris never said the word lockdown,
Told people they can go too and from work if they can't work from home.
People can have multiple walks outside and just say it's there first walk of the day
You can do your shopping
You can walk your pets

My definition of a lock down is like in Spain.
Maximum of 2 people in a car
You can't walk the streets unless you can prove you are going from A to B (shopping, chemist, walk dog only to do their business and straight back home)
€600 fines for people on the street.
All shops, cafe's, beaches and businesses closed
Real enforcement by the police and army

Rob A. Bank · 24-03-2020 11:19AM

INMO Trolley Watch figures for March 24th 2020

https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

Slight rise overnight... Irish hospitals 32 beds short today.

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2020 11:21AM

What are the chances that the actual covid 19 virus is seasonally affected ? Not the hospitals response but the virus itself

Tea Shock · 24-03-2020 11:22AM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

What are the chances that the actual covid 19 virus is seasonally affected ? Not the hospitals response but the virus itself

Pretty much every country in the world has cases of it - including those where it's currently Summer

stuchyg · 24-03-2020 11:22AM

Waiting on my doctor to ring me back to check on symptoms. My 2 year old had bad nappies for 24/48 hours a couple days before I got my dose so thought nothing more of it, hopefully the doc reckons I'm fine

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 11:23AM

Deleted User wrote: »

It is. It's why it's spreading so much compared to influenza. Basically a smart virus that infects, is pretty contagious, and for the most part, doesn't really affect people.

It would be far better if it made people very sick like the flu does.

I know it's origin is from wuhan wet market until proven otherwise but this a helluva virus which would make a very effective weapon.

long incubation period
asymptomic people can infect
more contageous than the flu
just high enough percentage of critical care / ICU to completely nullify effective treatment
untold economic damage

I do not think it's a weapon, it's just interesting to see how "effective"/"destructive if it were. Before people go mad at me, we live in a world where a huge amount of money goes into developing such programs.

Klonker · 24-03-2020 11:23AM

Lavinia wrote: »

Any reason why we have terrible reporting on cases in our country?
What is worth the information as 'one woman died in east of country'??

total boll***s... as it means absolutely nothing.

does not require a name but could say this old with there health conditions infected this way or whatever..
not just about deaths but generally reporting here is boarding on criminal.
no wonder why it is spreading this much this fast since people are absolutely not aware of the dangers of it.

I think they will start releasing stats on fatalities but will wait until the number rises a bit higher, just for privacy for the individuals and there families. They did similar with cases here, originally only giving, south east or west but now give county, age and other information.

is_that_so · 24-03-2020 11:23AM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

What are the chances that the actual covid 19 virus is seasonally affected ? Not the hospitals response but the virus itself

That word unknown rears its head again. Saw that some Chinese scientists had suggested it could die out over summer. Trump of course jumped on that!

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2020 11:24AM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Just to add - i live in a working class part of Dublin

Since we have been told to keep our social distance none of the kids of the street have been out playing whatsever

Fair play to them as the area is full of people over 60

Tea Shock wrote: »

Pretty much every country in the world has cases of it - including those where it's currently Summer

Is it Mainly travel transmission in the countries where it’s summer ? what impact will the change in seasons have is a big unknown

Rob A. Bank · 24-03-2020 11:24AM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

What are the chances that the actual covid 19 virus is seasonally affected ? Not the hospitals response but the virus itself

No one knows... the virus has only been known to science since the beginning of January.

Trump's lies still having an effect, it seems.

Xertz · 24-03-2020 11:25AM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

What are the chances that the actual covid 19 virus is seasonally affected ? Not the hospitals response but the virus itself

There's no data on it as the virus is too new. Here's to hoping, but it's still pretty active in hot places.

Also, seasonality may well be to do with cold weather causing people to be in easy-to-spread high densities. So, the various mitigation measures may be creating the same effect i.e. spreading people out and making transmission less easy. There are a several theories on seasonality but, the changes in human behaviour in hot weather may be a lot to do with why certain bugs don't spread.

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP