CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

Donald Trump · 24-03-2020 12:05PM

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

I wouldn't wish this on anyone else on the planet except for maybe Arlene but I would be delighted if Trump caught the virus and ended up critically ill from it. I don't want to see him or anyone else die but it would be fitting if he ended up totally fcuked from it and unable to continue.

You might not like my posts, but that's a bit harsh

Dotsie~tmp · 24-03-2020 12:06PM

dickdonk14 wrote: »

I think its been said here you can phone any GP

Tried 6 local now. All ring out.

deise08 · 24-03-2020 12:06PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Can't get them in the UK I've been told. Are we as egg secure as we are food secure? Please god we are.....

I know there was a bird flu outbreak here recently. Seems the same happened in China.

Lavinia · 24-03-2020 12:06PM

davedanon wrote: »

And you're delusional if you think people are not aware. No-one has spoken, read or thought of anything else for weeks. It's inconceivable the vast majority of the population don't appreciate the danger.

I went yesterday out in a car and was shocked to see more people than ever in my area of Dublin walking sitting in cafes talking walking dogs children riding bikes and what not running and so on it was sickening.

so ya, you should restrain from diagnosing people who you absolutely don't have a clue about, if you'd come here and look around you'd be shocked too.

MOR316 · 24-03-2020 12:07PM

Finding some of this a bit baffling to be honest.

I've read about people having it and having no symptoms at all. So even if you feel fine, you could just be a carrier? Without it affecting you?

That can't be right, can it?

big syke · 24-03-2020 12:07PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Can't get them in the UK I've been told. Are we as egg secure as we are food secure? Please god we are.....

Dunnes and supervalu have fully stocked eggs. Overflow stock on the ground also

iguana · 24-03-2020 12:08PM

intellectual dosser wrote: »

Perhaps its been asked to death, but is there a firm reason why we're still officially on only 5 reported recoveries? I'd assume there are a lot more by now even with the criteria for proving recovered.

I'm guessing that efforts are going into tracking positive cases, and unfortunately deaths and we'll catch up on recovery statistics later?

Just checking if there's a better explanation.

Most people with confirmed infections are told to stay home if not in difficulty. And are not being tested to prove recovery, instead they are told to continue to self isolate for 14 days after they last have symptoms. So we have no way of actually knowing who has recovered or not, though presumably many have and most will.

ILoveYourVibes · 24-03-2020 12:08PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Finding some of this a bit baffling to be honest.

I've read about people having it and having no symptoms at all. So even if you feel fine, you could just be a carrier? Without it affecting you?

That can't be right, can it?

Of course it can. You are still 'shedding the virus'. That is the issue. Many people have it and feel nothing. Its why testing is so important.

Drumpot · 24-03-2020 12:08PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

And if you have to be in an enclosed space , such as a bus, wear a face mask.

Source:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3074351/coronavirus-can-travel-twice-far-official-safe-distance-and-stay

Again, more information that was available weeks ago and yet Western democracys were talking absolute bollox , with a couple of feet and an arbitrary 15 minute window (talking with somebody) chosen as a reasonable precaution.

To be honest I feel I have always been a few weeks ahead of the authorities, not because I have access to information that they don't, but because I have only been looking at this from one perspective, how to not get it or stop the spread.

That said, I understand its been difficult for their mindsets to change and not easy to get populations to follow them. Look at how idiotic people have been, absolute belligerence at giving up a few luxuries has been quite eye opening. It is no surprise that they have had to close things in bits because a fair amount of people are simply not very intelligent when it comes to this and are more concerned with pleasing themselves then preventing this from getting worse.

iwillyeah1234 · 24-03-2020 12:08PM

London tube this morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AjZtUnjB44

Cina · 24-03-2020 12:08PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Finding some of this a bit baffling to be honest.

I've read about people having it and having no symptoms at all. So even if you feel fine, you could just be a carrier? Without it affecting you?

That can't be right, can it?

You can have Covid-19 for up to two weeks before showing any symptoms.

And for many, those symptoms could be very mild when they do show up.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-03-2020 12:09PM

martingriff wrote: »

Ya because a small minority can't follow what is been asked. Some in this country are really proving we have to be a nanny state

So true, especially the bunch of **** that headed to McD's when they heard it was closing. Its hard to imagine that there are that many utterly stupid people in this country.

intellectual dosser · 24-03-2020 12:09PM

iguana wrote: »

Most people with confirmed infections are told to stay home if not in difficulty. And are not being tested to prove recovery, instead they are told to continue to self isolate for 14 days after they last have symptoms. So we have no way of actually knowing who has recovered or not, though presumably many have and most will.

I figured as much, but would have thought recording the recoveries is pretty important in understanding rates etc. It would even give people a bit of a lift to see that number rise.

BluePlanet · 24-03-2020 12:09PM

Drumpot wrote: »

Did he make the connection between Diarrhea and people having worse symptoms or a more severe case of the bug ? I cant remember where I heard that, just curious if hes also seen this happen . .

I would also wonder that if people end up on hospital with breathing difficulties would a few of them forget or fail to confirm that they had diarrhea ? (when you cant breath, going to the toilet would be the last thing on your mind).

I've read about that, but no i didn't see any posts of his making such a connection.

sideswipe · 24-03-2020 12:12PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Finding some of this a bit baffling to be honest.

I've read about people having it and having no symptoms at all. So even if you feel fine, you could just be a carrier? Without it affecting you?

That can't be right, can it?

I'm no expert but all viruses act differently, herpes for example is a virus that people can have without ever getting a coldsore.

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2020 12:13PM

My choices today ! Stay in and stay safe or go out and run the Gauntlet to pick up some groceries

Volthar · 24-03-2020 12:13PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Of course it can. You are still 'shedding the virus'. That is the issue. Many people have it and feel nothing. Its why testing is so important.

But testing is done only when you have symptoms. I can be shedding it left right centre and will never know.

Boggles · 24-03-2020 12:14PM

The UK have a major communication problem.

It's not going to end well.

24-03-2020 12:14PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Finding some of this a bit baffling to be honest.

I've read about people having it and having no symptoms at all. So even if you feel fine, you could just be a carrier? Without it affecting you?

That can't be right, can it?

It is. It's why it's spreading so much compared to influenza. Basically a smart virus that infects, is pretty contagious, and for the most part, doesn't really affect people.

It would be far better if it made people very sick like the flu does.

DrumSteve · 24-03-2020 12:14PM

I don't post much in here anymore, but I've heard through work that there are further closures coming tomorrow.

*I work for a large semi state company.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 24-03-2020 12:14PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

No the Irish media is posting online happiness about the TOOTHFAIRY still being able to visit kids so don't worry. You couldn't make it up. They have lost all credibility.

https://twitter.com/TodayFM/status/1242356726852202501

The Irish media can no longer talk to adults about adult topics to its resorting to to talking to the nations toddlers instead. Lets see if the toddlers of Ireland tell them to do one.

Would you fcuk off with yourself and when you get there fcuk off some more.

Kids need re-assurance that things are going to be the same. You clearly don't have any children otherwise you would have some semblance of understanding on how important it is for children to know this isn't a doomsday scenario and that things that are important to them are still continuing.

cdgalwegian · 24-03-2020 12:14PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Finding some of this a bit baffling to be honest.

I've read about people having it and having no symptoms at all. So even if you feel fine, you could just be a carrier? Without it affecting you?

That can't be right, can it?

Still not answered:

cdgalwegian wrote: »

On a different note, anybody got any good sources for asymptomatic spread of Covid-19, as in from up-to-date medical sources, rather than magazine articles? I
read last week ( a medical report) that a few supposed cases that were deemed to be asymptomatic spreaders turned out to be symptomatic. Also, a key indicator of symptoms would be pyrexia, but taking paracetamol and brufen could mask this, so up-to-date info would be useful in this regard. The up-to-date medical info is surprisingly hard to find.

iguana · 24-03-2020 12:15PM

Cina wrote: »

You can have Covid-19 for up to two weeks before showing any symptoms.

And for many, those symptoms could be very mild when they do show up.

And, there does seem to be a correlation between rest and severity. It's not going to be across the board obviously but people who knew what they had right from the start and rest their bodies nearly completely, seem to have an easier time of it than people who thought they had a bit of a cold/fluey thing and forged on with work/sports/etc. So finding out you have it while being asymptotic means you are more likely to rest and treat your body carefully in terms of fluid and nutrition before symptoms start which may play a part in helping the body recover before it gets more serious.

Klonker · 24-03-2020 12:15PM

dan786 wrote: »

The number of cases of coronavirus in Italy is probably 10 times higher than the official tally of almost 64,000, the head of the agency that is collating the data said.

Thats over half a million.

I'd be surprised if it's less than 1m.

MOR316 · 24-03-2020 12:15PM

Volthar wrote: »

But testing is done only when you have symptoms. I can be shedding it left right centre and will never know.

This is the thing I'm finding hard to understand.

Me, you or anyone could have it, could actually not be affected by it whatsoever and then pass it on.

That's very scary

*This is just from what I've read. I have nothing medically factual to back it up

kowloon · 24-03-2020 12:15PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I think its a visual representation of someone getting their arse handed to them. By the way ..i agree.

Was catching up with the thread, seems the picture was already brought up. It's pretty reckless posting pictures like that; even if it's not stated to be relevant to current events people are sure as fcuk going to infer that it is.

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 12:15PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

And if you have to be in an enclosed space , such as a bus, wear a face mask.

Source:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3074351/coronavirus-can-travel-twice-far-official-safe-distance-and-stay

I'm very glad my significant other hasn't taken public transport for past 4 weeks. I'm also lucky I don't have to take it. Once cases start popping up here, the writing was on the wall. People who are essential services and need to take public transport should 100% be given a mask of some description. That's a peer reviewed journal. It's fairly conclusive even at this early stage.
Government needs to connect key workers more.
If we need to beg China for masks, then that's what we should do.

Sweet.Science · 24-03-2020 12:16PM

Just to add - i live in a working class part of Dublin

Since we have been told to keep our social distance none of the kids of the street have been out playing whatsever

Fair play to them as the area is full of people over 60

Tea Shock · 24-03-2020 12:16PM

Boggles wrote: »

The UK have a major communication problem.

It's not going to end well.

27 Million people in the UK watched Johnson's address to the nation last night - 80% of the market, 41% of the entire nation.

I think they know

They just think the instructions are only for everyone else

Hobgoblin11 · 24-03-2020 12:17PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Just to add - i live in a working class part of Dublin

Since we have been told to keep our social distance none of the kids of the street have been out playing whatsever

Fair play to them as the area is full of people over 60

Working class? Retired class it sounds more like

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP