CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

lawred2 · 24-03-2020 10:01AM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

What the fuck is wrong with all of yee?

Jealous or just arseholes?

reality of the world I'm afraid.. a lot of this type of stuff is virtue signalling for the instagram story

sheepsh4gger · 24-03-2020 10:01AM

This game predicted everything:

Rob A. Bank · 24-03-2020 10:01AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

I’m not sure about the perth doctors, surely we need ventilators not more staff. They should stay and help the hospital in perth.

A ventilator is less than useless, and possibly dangerous, if there are not highly skilled staff available to run it.

You can't just plug someone in and leave them... the patient must be anesthetized and nursed 24/7 usually 1:1 nursing if really ill, or 1 nurse to 2 patients if not so critical.

We will need every last nurse and doctor to deal with this coming tsunami of patients... otherwise we face a disaster like Northern Italy or Spain

skellig_rocks · 24-03-2020 10:01AM

patnor1011 wrote:

Correct. But you forgot to add one very imortant potential pandemic factory and it is quite disputable if wet market is number one in this case as wet markets are there thousands of years.

The other potential source of pandemic and in my opinion more deadly one is military research and their quest of creating perfect weapon. And make no mistake, a lot of countries big and small are heavily involved in this.

Wibbs wrote: »

1) we tend to overestimate the ability of military techs to build such things and 2) they've been there for thousands of years and have been hotbeds of infectious diseases with it.

There is a possibility that is a Laboratory safety incident. Maybe they didn't follow strict protocols of deposing animals after experiments.

There were incidents of escaped SARS virus in a China's Lab in 2004.

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-analysis/sars-escaped-beijing-lab-twice-50137

"SARS escaped Beijing lab twice -
Laboratory safety at the Chinese Institute of Virology under close scrutiny - 2004"

If they didn't learn the mistakes about the wild-life markets in 2003, they might also didn't learn the mistakes about lab safety too.

Achasanai · 24-03-2020 10:01AM

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

Am I the only that while appreciating them wanting to come home also think they should stay and help the people there?

Yep. I would've thought the primary point of a doctor or nurse's care would be for the patients that are caring for, and not for those from the country they're from. We'd be rightly fúcked if all our foreign doctors and nurses went home.

cloudatlas · 24-03-2020 10:02AM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

What the fuck is wrong with all of yee?

Jealous or just arseholes?

Or confused about the ethics of leaving the health service you work at when a crisis is about to hit it?

Bob24 · 24-03-2020 10:03AM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Wuhan is similar in size to London.
How did essential workers commute in that city?
Iirc public transport was shut?

They initially decided shut down public transport completely and the first day they realised they made a mistake as medical staff couldn't go to hospitals (there are stories of nurses/doctors walking 2 hours to go to work).

Then I believe they reacted promptly and arranged special transportation for identified critical workers.

Difference in China though is that society is a lot less atomised than here and there are many layers of existing groups which could help with that (residents committees for each development, party committees in the hospitals, neighbourhood committees, etc; which I assume were all asked to provide support to medical staff - it is a question for another thread whether these structures are good in general, but in such situation they definitely are useful).

cdgalwegian · 24-03-2020 10:04AM

gabeeg wrote: »

Pigs and birds are carriers of viruses that regularly jump to humans.

It's not just the US and China - every country on the planet could be the source of the next pandemic.

Correct. My point is that the standards of hygiene in these two will not will not be forcibly raised collectively by the rest. I'd safely say the standards of hygiene in Ireland are far stricter that in those two; we have to suffer due to their lower standards.

walshb · 24-03-2020 10:04AM

Wheety wrote: »

You know not everyone has the same symptons? She said she had no fever at all and this was one of the signs she kept hearing about on her show.

Exactly.....not everyone has same symptoms....even more reason that she should have believed that it absolutely could be Covid....

Fever is one sign.....it's not D only sign, and it's not a sign that HAS to be present....

I knew that weeks ago.....and I am not presenting bloody programmes on it...

borderlinemeath · 24-03-2020 10:06AM

dePeatrick wrote: »

I got it too then, I ended up in a pool of my own vomit on my hands and knees dry retching unable to breathe. I never ever want to go through that again. I thought I would die 100% Took ages to recover from, lost 10kg.

This one is worse by all accounts, have not been outside the door for over a week now.

There definitely was a gastric element to it as well, I lost about 5kg, but back the I was under 60kg. When we were over the worst of it I remember making food, looking at it, unable to eat, still feeling so nauseous.

I'm lucky in so far that we both work from home and have limited contact with others. We're semi rural so can walk in the countryside without meeting a soul, but on Sunday we went to the beach to walk the dogs and it was ridiculous. I literally walked over rocks and seaweed to avoid others - who for the most part were keeping in their own family units. But I'm not surprised that public amenities such as beaches/parks are going to be further restricted. It was far too busy for what we are dealing with.

I HAVE to go to the shop for essentials today - my child asked me yesterday "Have we any food that hasn't gone bad"?

Tacitus Kilgore · 24-03-2020 10:09AM

lawred2 wrote: »

reality of the world I'm afraid.. a lot of this type of stuff is virtue signalling for the instagram story

cloudatlas wrote: »

Or confused about the ethics of leaving the health service you work at when a crisis is about to hit it?

Any hope of an edgelord only thread for these heroes?

caveat emptor · 24-03-2020 10:09AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Well not no-one. Anybody who plans things on a slightly longer scale than the election cycle.

This is what Bill Gates had to say about epidemics, back in 2015

Cuba was able to send 53 doctors to Italy. China did likewise internally. Zero EU help. We are me feiners at hearth (countries). Germany banning export of PPE. This shouldn't be forgotten.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/03/bill-gates-epidemic-pandemic-preparedness-ebola-covid-19/

We are woefully underprepared for this. The last 10 years of austerity has hollowed out our health service. The last 3 weeks have been as much about media spin as they have been about confronting it. I think the government is doing well but the resources are gone. A hollow army, a hollow health service. Initially it was you don't qualify for a test now it's you don't need the result. Health care workers without PPE. You reap what you sow. It won't take long for people to start dying at home. There are people who are told , ah you are not that bad only for them to believe it and not get the treatment they require.

I think waiting up to 20 days for a test result is a farce. How will we know who to triage if they are not diagnosed not to mention contact tracing. The current advice to stay at home and call if you get worse. From all the countries who are further along there is evidence that you can go downhill quite quickly.

Rob A. Bank · 24-03-2020 10:10AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Yes, the numbers we have are not live and never will be.

Also 10-14 days ago we shut down schools etc ahead of many countries so I don't get the constant sniping and saying we did nothing.

We're at the beginning of this, the numbers are going to go up, and people need to realise this.

Hopefully what has happened since we took measures will have a positive impact with numbers in the next 2 weeks.

People will never believe it did as numbers will most likely increase as forcasted by the government but will still be deemed a failure.

I know bloody well the numbers are going to go up... If the rate of increase exceeds our medical services capability then the BIG problems start.

We have been timidly reactive and not aggressively proactive so far.

I fear what is coming because of that failure.

cloudatlas · 24-03-2020 10:11AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

A ventilator is less than useless, and possibly dangerous, if there are not highly skilled staff available to run it.

You can't just plug someone in and leave them... the patient must be anesthetized and nursed 24/7 usually 1:1 nursing if really ill, or 1 nurse to 2 patients if not so critical.

We will need every last nurse and doctor to deal with this coming tsunami of patients... otherwise we face a disaster like Northern Italy or Spain

Yes and there were thousands of volunteers the other day. Australia will be hit badly too, they should stay in the health service that they have been working for and who have paid their wage.

24-03-2020 10:11AM

Just curious as to how others feel about people dropping leaflets in door's, during this time.

We had a milkman put a leaflet through the door. I was furious, my partner not so much. Think's the man was doing no harm.

kalkat2002 · 24-03-2020 10:12AM

Is there any announcement time for today
Rgds

cloudatlas · 24-03-2020 10:12AM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Any hope of an edgelord only thread for these heroes?

Yeah we should start 'a **** the Australian people' thread for you and these heroes abandoning their jobs in the midst of a crisis. Don't worry about the ethics there at all.

rodDaly69 · 24-03-2020 10:13AM

smelly sock wrote: »

I find a bit of arrogance from the young Irish doctors and nurses working in Australia wanting to come home to "Help".

They actually asked for a chartered flight just for them.

Not arrogance, that's the only way they can make it home, and I say send it.

24-03-2020 10:13AM

Just curious as to how others feel about people dropping leaflets in door's, during this time.

We had a milkman put a leaflet through the door. I was furious, my partner not so much. Think's the man was doing no harm.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 24-03-2020 10:13AM

Wibbs wrote: »

In some ways getting more virulent and deadly is a negative for a virus. It needs a host and the more it kills the worse things go for it. The "ideal" virus would be highly infectious but cause few or no symptoms, so it would spread to every host it could.

Yes, but for immunocompromised people, less virulent is good was the other poster’s point.

voluntary · 24-03-2020 10:13AM

China seems bouncing back.
78 new cases today.

murpho999 · 24-03-2020 10:14AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

I know bloody well the numbers are going to go up... If the rate of increase exceeds our medical services capability then the BIG problems start.

We have been timidly reactive and not aggressively proactive so far.

I fear what is coming because of that failure.

Seriously, how can you say that with the country basically shut down and 90% of it's citizens staying at home day to day.

How can you say there has been a failure?

kalkat2002 · 24-03-2020 10:14AM

Jake1 wrote: »

Just curious as to how others feel about people dropping leaflets in door's, during this time.

We had a milkman put a leaflet through the door. I was furious, my partner not so much. Think's the man was doing no harm.

Check it properly...maybe it was a love note...

rodDaly69 · 24-03-2020 10:14AM

Jurgen Klopp wrote: »

Am I the only that while appreciating them wanting to come home also think they should stay and help the people there?

I am trying to think if a large cohort from say the Philippines went home to help and left us short, but then would most likely expect to just return here after

Have to say I'd understand the going home but would be a tad bitter if they just expected to waltz back after things settled

It is unfair on the Australians for sure. They've taken them in and allowed them to live and work there, but as an Irishman sitting in Ireland, I don't really care, bring them home!

dan786 · 24-03-2020 10:14AM

LOCKDOWN!!! Sorry

Under significant new restrictions to be announced after today's Cabinet meeting, a large number of people working today, will not be going to work tomorrow, Health Correspondent Fergal Bowers reports.

The measures are likely to take in restaurants, cafés, hairdressers and a range of other service sectors regarded as non-essential.

Restrictions will also be introduced for outside gatherings.

While the measures will not be an exact replica of what has been announced in the UK, they will be significant.

Priority testing for health staff including GPs will be introduced.

General health testing will be increased for those with symptoms.

Officials believe these are the correct measures now, for the right period of time, however further measures are expected in the weeks ahead.

stuchyg · 24-03-2020 10:14AM

I had really bad diarrhea from last Wednesday evening until Sunday along with constant stomach cramps, was somewhat cold but no fever or cough and I'm fine now.

Has anyone experienced the same and been referred for twstt. Don't wanna bother the doctor with ringing. Have been off work anyway since Friday last

catrat12 · 24-03-2020 10:15AM

Jake1 wrote: »

Just curious as to how others feel about people dropping leaflets in door's, during this time.

We had a milkman put a leaflet through the door. I was furious, my partner not so much. Think's the man was doing no harm.

I’m scared of everything
Can I still order packages on amazon from England just get postman to leave near house and then spray them down should I be ok then

cj maxx · 24-03-2020 10:15AM

walshb wrote: »

Exactly.....not everyone has same symptoms....even more reason that she should have believed that it absolutely could be Covid....

Fever is one sign.....it's not D only sign, and it's not a sign that HAS to be present....

I knew that weeks ago.....and I am not presenting bloody programmes on it...

Seemingly a fever isn't present all the time and if it is, .manifests itself after a few days. They should be saying ANY cold/flu symptoms.isolate

BattleCorp · 24-03-2020 10:15AM

Jake1 wrote: »

Just curious as to how others feel about people dropping leaflets in door's, during this time.

We had a milkman put a leaflet through the door. I was furious, my partner not so much. Think's the man was doing no harm.

The postman is doing the same to be fair.

Not much difference in touching the leaflet and touching products in a shop that you are buying.

careless sherpa · 24-03-2020 10:16AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Yeah we should start 'a **** the Australian people' thread for you and these heroes abandoning their jobs in the midst of a crisis. Don't worry about the ethics there at all.

You are persistent, I give you that. Day after day casting out and noone taking the bait

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP