CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP

patnor1011 · 24-03-2020 09:06AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Retarded comparison. Wet markets in East Asia(not just in China) are biggest potential pandemic factorieson the planet. Organised crime, both usual and at local governmental levels control them. China has more of them that anyone else and there are some reports that they've started up again. China and any other nation that keeps this practice going needs to be held to account and hit in the pocket hard. If any blame is to be laid for this pandemic and the potentially millions of lives lost it's at the feet of the Chinese government.

Correct. But you forgot to add one very imortant potential pandemic factory and it is quite disputable if wet market is number one in this case as wet markets are there thousands of years.

The other potential source of pandemic and in my opinion more deadly one is military research and their quest of creating perfect weapon. And make no mistake, a lot of countries big and small are heavily involved in this.

Duke of Url · 24-03-2020 09:06AM

Looks like 2 more on the recovered list

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/coronavirus-live-update-galway-covid19-21740865

murpho999 · 24-03-2020 09:07AM

mean gene wrote: »

Again it has to be stated flights full of potential virus carriers arriving in every few minutes in Dublin and not been checked. Wtf is the point of all these measures. Also ferry's coming in daily

Have you not seen how the aviation industry has collapsed. Dublin Airport was empty yesterday.

I would say planes and ferries are bringing Irish people home which is their right and we cannot just abandon our citizens abroad.

Checking people getting off planes won't achieve anything either due to incubation period. So it would waste tests and manpower.

Mav11 · 24-03-2020 09:08AM

Duke of Url wrote: »

Looks like 2 more on the recovered list

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/coronavirus-live-update-galway-covid19-21740865

The stats are still only showing 5!

Duke of Url · 24-03-2020 09:08AM

Mav11 wrote: »

The stats are still only showing 5!

I hope it gets updated.

Wibbs · 24-03-2020 09:08AM

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

My point is,

we can turn to look and blame everyone that hasnt prevented the Virus spreading, not going to serve anyone in the long run.

Apparently claire byrne admits now she dropped the ball by not isolating straight away because she thought she had a head cold.

Either we are all in this togeher, or we sould all blame the last person and tear the world apart.

If thats the case,

****ing Italians didn't act fast enough.

Not going to help anyone.

Sure, but the major difference is without a bunch of primitives stuffing wild animals in with domestic and butchering them in the open air to sell to another bunch of primitives who think eating pangolin makes their tiny peckers hard, Ms Byrne nor the Italians would have had to drop the ball or not. In the long run if they don't close such places this will happen again and again. They are literally biological weapons on a lit fuse.

ZX7R · 24-03-2020 09:08AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Because they always do! I did see read somewhere that hedge funds are looking to target companies that come out of this badly.

All ready happening but not with hedge funds per se
Big roumers that Ryan air is approaching other airlines that are in trouble to buy airframes from them.
I also read an Italian article from an Italian law firm suggesting that some Chinese business are showing an interest in purchasing small Italian business that are in trouble.

iwillyeah1234 · 24-03-2020 09:09AM

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

Apparently claire byrne admits now she dropped the ball by not isolating straight away because she thought she had a head cold.

i think the big lesson there is - even if you think you only have a head cold, you HAVE to go into isolation.

niallo27 · 24-03-2020 09:10AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Yes it would as the disease has an incubation period.

You will not see the impact of measures for approx 10-14 days.

Many people do not seem to get this.

Also, I would argue that more than 90% of people are basically in lockdown.

The people you see outside or in parks and beaches etc are a minority. 10% of non compliance would be roughly 450,000 people so that's still a large number. Enough to make places look full and give impression people are not staying in.

Also, the cases we have now are pretty much as predicted so I don't get the shock and horror at the numbers each day.

Plus you can guarantee after the public outcry over last weekend, the vast majority of people will not leave their houses this weekend. There will not be scenes like we saw last weekend.

Mav11 · 24-03-2020 09:10AM

Duke of Url wrote: »

I hope it gets updated.

Could bring a bit more hope, which is needed.

24-03-2020 09:10AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Wow, what absolute morans

Do you know the family well?

Wibbs · 24-03-2020 09:11AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Correct. But you forgot to add one very imortant potential pandemic factory and it is quite disputable if wet market is number one in this case as wet markets are there thousands of years.

The other potential source of pandemic and in my opinion more deadly one is military research and their quest of creating perfect weapon. And make no mistake, a lot of countries big and small are heavily involved in this.

1) we tend to overestimate the ability of military techs to build such things and 2) they've been there for thousands of years and have been hotbeds of infectious diseases with it.

iwillyeah1234 · 24-03-2020 09:12AM

more from the London tube this morning

patnor1011 · 24-03-2020 09:12AM

niallo27 wrote: »

We can only go on past viruses of the same strain which mutated to be less deadly, so this one should go the same way. It might not but it should.

That is what I am betting on. I am pretty much definition of vulnerable and immunocompromised so I will have hard time when I get this. I very much hope for later mutated strain to be less virulent and less damaging but there is possibility that that may not be the case. Self isolation is not an option for me so it is just a waiting game.

We will see but one thing is pretty much certain that this disease is going to stay and we all will get it at some stage so let just hope there will be some treatment for it as soon as possible.

murpho999 · 24-03-2020 09:14AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Wow, what absolute morans

Stations should be doing better jobs and controlling crowds.

Work start times need to be staggered.

niallo27 · 24-03-2020 09:14AM

Duke of Url wrote: »

I hope it gets updated.

Over 100k have recovered worldwide.

iwillyeah1234 · 24-03-2020 09:15AM

Latest UK stats. Gone over the 6k mark in "active cases"

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14

stephenjmcd · 24-03-2020 09:15AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Stations should be doing better jobs and controlling crowds.

Work start times need to be staggered.

Well yes but they couldn't all be in essentially jobs?

Boris basically told everywhere to close last night.

Rob A. Bank · 24-03-2020 09:15AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Have you not seen how the aviation industry has collapsed. Dublin Airport was empty yesterday.

I would say planes and ferries are bringing Irish people home which is their right and we cannot just abandon our citizens abroad.

Checking people getting off planes won't achieve anything either due to incubation period. So it would waste tests and manpower.

Are you serious ? Look at what the successful countries in Asia do.

The minimum should be a temperature check and advice to self isolate for 14 days... and if they refuse to do that, arrest and forced isolation. The temperature check would find the 'open cases' who are already shedding virus.

There is very little use in all our strict mitigation efforts, if we are going to top up our cases every day from the evolving disaster that is the UK.

ZX7R · 24-03-2020 09:16AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Have you not seen how the aviation industry has collapsed. Dublin Airport was empty yesterday.

I would say planes and ferries are bringing Irish people home which is their right and we cannot just abandon our citizens abroad.

Checking people getting off planes won't achieve anything either due to incubation period. So it would waste tests and manpower.

Most Aer lingus flights are repatriation flights and or cargo flights,there was an article about it on rte news during the week, repatriation flights due to end on Thursday I believe.
Cargo flights will continue

Atlantic Dawn · 24-03-2020 09:17AM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

more from the London tube this morning

Doubt they are doing it by choice.

24-03-2020 09:18AM

Whoever is taking the tube pictures is also on the tube themselves

iwillyeah1234 · 24-03-2020 09:18AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Stations should be doing better jobs and controlling crowds.

Work start times need to be staggered.

When the Italians imposed a lockdown in Lombardy, they positioned police and army checkpoints outside every train station - asking every traveller where they were going and why they were making the journey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvvt6nsdlw8

Wibbs · 24-03-2020 09:18AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

That is what I am betting on. I am pretty much definition of vulnerable and immunocompromised so I will have hard time when I get this. I very much hope for later mutated strain to be less virulent and less damaging but there is possibility that that may not be the case.

In some ways getting more virulent and deadly is a negative for a virus. It needs a host and the more it kills the worse things go for it. The "ideal" virus would be highly infectious but cause few or no symptoms, so it would spread to every host it could.

carolmon · 24-03-2020 09:19AM

murpho999 wrote: »

Stations should be doing better jobs and controlling crowds.

Work start times need to be staggered.

Seemingly they cut the number of tube trains running too due to people working at home... they could pay dearly for that decision

weldoninhio · 24-03-2020 09:20AM

mohawk wrote: »

I would be shocked if there hasn’t been a near collapse of passenger numbers with many passengers returning to where they live.

Also ferries are vital to supply chain. Things relating to food, medicine, medical equipment and supplies will have to continue to come in on flights and ferries.

A friend of mine works for Stena, he got a letter stating that they are key workers. They were told to keep a copy of the letter with them at all times in case they are stopped by any official on their way to or from work.

Jurgen Klopp · 24-03-2020 09:20AM

Right lads

China has ended travel restrictions in Hubei the province where Covid 19 first emerged

This is the test now for what we are all doing and possibly will have to keep doing

https://www.thejournal.ie/china-lifts-restrictions-hubei-coronavirus-5055560-Mar2020/

murpho999 · 24-03-2020 09:21AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Are you serious ? Look at what the successful countries in Asia do.

The minimum should be a temperature check and advice to self isolate for 14 days... and if they refuse to do that, arrest and forced isolation. The temperature check would find the 'open cases' who are already shedding virus.

There is very little use in all our strict mitigation efforts, if we are going to top up our cases every day from the evolving disaster that is the UK.

So you'be seen an Asian worker in an asian airport on the news with a thermometer gun and that means we should do that?

Do you know how many people they stopped and found with the virus?

Majority of carriers are asymptomatic and will not have a temperature.

People coming from risky areas have been told to self -isolate.
How do you propose to force people? Camps at the airport?
I doubt there are many UK citizens traveling here now.

There's nobody on these flights anyway and it's not a major issue now and people should just calm down about it.

24-03-2020 09:22AM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

they positioned police and army checkpoints outside every train station - asking every traveller where they were going and why they were making the journey.

Some say we should do that. Anyway like.

iwillyeah1234 · 24-03-2020 09:24AM

Wibbs wrote: »

In some ways getting more virulent and deadly is a negative for a virus. It needs a host and the more it kills the worse things go for it. The "ideal" virus would be highly infectious but cause few or no symptoms, so it would spread to every host it could.

which is pretty much what we are seeing with SARS-COV-2 - children acting as carriers, some adults showing zero symptoms ( the "spreaders") , people like Claire Byrne thinking they only have a head cold etc etc ...

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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) Read OP