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CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    So how did they turn it around then? I'm more and more convinced climate is a huge factor in all of this

    Only barely warming up in Korea, coming out of their winter time into their spring.

    -High levels of compliance with hygiene;
    -mask wearing;
    -sanitizers in every building;
    -temperature checks going into malls & office buildings;
    -invasive technology for tracing;
    -huge resources directed at Daegu;
    -free testing and treatment that's very accessible;
    -good consistent communication from the government;
    -lessons learned from a horrible experience with MERS a few years ago

    Very little in the way of:

    - LOCKDOWN (said in Hollywood trailer voice)
    - BANNING people and flights
    - surprisingly little social distancing
    - some businesses have closed at their discretion but not as many as you'd imagine
    - bars and restaurants remain open for business for the most part (schools and universities remain closed however)

    Edit: Another important variable, the church where the infection spread like wildfire in Daegu had a disproportionate amount of young women. Who are the least likely demographic to die from the virus. So they got lucky on that count.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    We got a text from work last night informing us that our boss has tested positive for Covid-19 and is currently in hospital. Contact tracing has said only certain members of the office now need to isolate for a week, as they were most likely to have had longer interactions of 15 minutes or more with him.

    It's a smallish open office and social distancing wasn't observed until last week. Everyone in the office would have been in contact with him and all the surfaces he touched, yet we are being told we do not need to be tested.

    I am working from home since today, was in the office every day up until now. I am so worried and confused as to why the rest of us are deemed lower risk of having been infected. I have been in contact with my grandson since last week, who has severe asthma. Not showing symptoms, but am aware not everyone shows symptoms and even if they do contract the virus, it can take up to two weeks for symptoms to appear.

    Should I trust the HSE and their contact tracing rules and just continue to work from home, or should I be pushing for a test? I've been so worried all day...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    and here I expect.


    A so called lock down will need to be backed up with details obviously. The bins will still be emptied, the roads will still be tarmacked and so on.

    They’ll probably take all the roads in if there’s a full lock down. Can’t have people driving about willy nilly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    We got a text from work last night informing us that our boss has tested positive for Covid-19 and is currently in hospital. Contact tracing has said only certain members of the office now need to isolate for a week, as they were most likely to have had longer interactions of 15 minutes or more with him.

    It's a smallish open office and social distancing wasn't observed until last week. Everyone in the office would have been in contact with him and all the surfaces he touched, yet we are being told we do not need to be tested.

    I am working from home since today, was in the office every day up until now. I am so worried and confused as to why the rest of us are deemed lower risk of having been infected. I have been in contact with my grandson since last week, who has severe asthma. Not showing symptoms, but am aware not everyone shows symptoms and even if they do contract the virus, it can take up to two weeks for symptoms to appear.

    Should I trust the HSE and their contact tracing rules and just continue to work from home, or should I be pushing for a test? I've been so worried all day...

    I'd trust your instinct and ask GP for a test. You'll feel better and you have every right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    We got a text from work last night informing us that our boss has tested positive for Covid-19 and is currently in hospital. Contact tracing has said only certain members of the office now need to isolate for a week, as they were most likely to have had longer interactions of 15 minutes or more with him.
    ...

    First sign of any symptoms contact your doc - nothing more you can do
    They are not in a position to analyse every workplace so they are more interested in those people who had sustained contact with him


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,085 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    We got a text from work last night informing us that our boss has tested positive for Covid-19 and is currently in hospital. Contact tracing has said only certain members of the office now need to isolate for a week, as they were most likely to have had longer interactions of 15 minutes or more with him.

    It's a smallish open office and social distancing wasn't observed until last week. Everyone in the office would have been in contact with him and all the surfaces he touched, yet we are being told we do not need to be tested.

    I am working from home since today, was in the office every day up until now. I am so worried and confused as to why the rest of us are deemed lower risk of having been infected. I have been in contact with my grandson since last week, who has severe asthma. Not showing symptoms, but am aware not everyone shows symptoms and even if they do contract the virus, it can take up to two weeks for symptoms to appear.

    Should I trust the HSE and their contact tracing rules and just continue to work from home, or should I be pushing for a test? I've been so worried all day...

    Ask for the test.

    The only problem is you've a helluva wait to get any result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,785 ✭✭✭✭josip


    kowloon wrote: »
    Two mentions for bicycle shops, they must be really important.


    Not that important, some of them will close for the 3 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Bicycle shops count twice for some reason.

    Boris Bikes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Why is it that at the exact moment you walk into a shop your face starts itching like f**ck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,783 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Strumms wrote: »
    FG throughout their history have been beholden to big business or any business. They wanted money to keep rolling into the country and they don’t want businesses to suffer or miss out. They are a money party. That’s their first priority. They would probably rather see no recession and moderate numbers of ill and dead where the rest of us would rather us, our relatives and friends come out the other side, well and intact with maybe a recession to face and a difficult couple of years, that’s the difference.

    I really wish people would stop with this political agenda stuff.

    The government is doing it's best and shut businesses down 2 weeks ago before a lot of other countries in a similar situation did and they know they've caused a recession.
    So therefore totally disproving your theory.

    This is a national emergency and public health issue now, it's not political anymore.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    If you're going to go for mass testing, as in really go for it, then that isn't really an issue. Also people throw around the word hypochondriac, but if someone's immunocompromised or has underlying conditions at the moment I really wouldn't blame them for being scared if they have even mild symptoms.

    Being immunocompromised is different to being a hypochondriac. People with underlying conditions should be priority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    We got a text from work last night informing us that our boss has tested positive for Covid-19 and is currently in hospital. Contact tracing has said only certain members of the office now need to isolate for a week, as they were most likely to have had longer interactions of 15 minutes or more with him.

    It's a smallish open office and social distancing wasn't observed until last week. Everyone in the office would have been in contact with him and all the surfaces he touched, yet we are being told we do not need to be tested.

    I am working from home since today, was in the office every day up until now. I am so worried and confused as to why the rest of us are deemed lower risk of having been infected. I have been in contact with my grandson since last week, who has severe asthma. Not showing symptoms, but am aware not everyone shows symptoms and even if they do contract the virus, it can take up to two weeks for symptoms to appear.

    Should I trust the HSE and their contact tracing rules and just continue to work from home, or should I be pushing for a test? I've been so worried all day...
    talk to your GP over the phone tommorow. take care.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,208 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    We got a text from work last night informing us that our boss has tested positive for Covid-19 and is currently in hospital. Contact tracing has said only certain members of the office now need to isolate for a week, as they were most likely to have had longer interactions of 15 minutes or more with him.

    It's a smallish open office and social distancing wasn't observed until last week. Everyone in the office would have been in contact with him and all the surfaces he touched, yet we are being told we do not need to be tested.

    I am working from home since today, was in the office every day up until now. I am so worried and confused as to why the rest of us are deemed lower risk of having been infected. I have been in contact with my grandson since last week, who has severe asthma. Not showing symptoms, but am aware not everyone shows symptoms and even if they do contract the virus, it can take up to two weeks for symptoms to appear.

    Should I trust the HSE and their contact tracing rules and just continue to work from home, or should I be pushing for a test? I've been so worried all day...

    If I were you, I'd ask to be tested and I'd act as if I had it and isolate myself as much as possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    A so called lock down will need to be backed up with details obviously. The bins will still be emptied, the roads will still be tarmacked and so on.

    Tell that to Greyhound - they can barely bother to empty bins on a normal week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    damemcd wrote: »
    or foot and mouth....


    Except now it's for people. Sky News will have the live death counter and all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,305 ✭✭✭MayoForSam


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Will she work and live at home? Can't expect the student nurses to ho elsewhere in the country.

    Some will work 12 hours a day without pay.

    Free accommodation in Galway - most normal students gone home so she can stay with one of her classmates in a half-empty house. She's only half an hour from home anyhow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Are student nurses working without pay?

    yes :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭skellig_rocks


    woohoo!!! wrote: »
    Locking down or quarantine of anyone coming in, plus stringent domestic testing, isolation and overwhelming social adherence is effective. Banning flights but doing little to deal with cases already there is ineffective as we've seen.

    Lessons learned will hopefully see a major boost in WHO funding and research and a both continental and national protocol firmly established to deal with the next one, based on best public health advice and not political/social media whims.


    I agree with your first paragraph. However I don't have much faith with WHO after this crisis. WHO has became to political. Taiwan, which is not a member of WHO, because of China's refusal of its entry, actually is one of the best prepared country for the crisis.


    This is what Taiwanese Government say

    https://www.ft.com/content/2a70a02a-644a-11ea-a6cd-df28cc3c6a68


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 756 ✭✭✭marilynrr




    I am working from home since today, was in the office every day up until now. I am so worried and confused as to why the rest of us are deemed lower risk of having been infected. I have been in contact with my grandson since last week, who has severe asthma. Not showing symptoms, but am aware not everyone shows symptoms and even if they do contract the virus, it can take up to two weeks for symptoms to appear.

    Should I trust the HSE and their contact tracing rules and just continue to work from home, or should I be pushing for a test? I've been so worried all day...

    You could ask your GP for a referral, but without symptoms I don't think you would get one.
    I haven't heard of people being referred with no symptoms but maybe someone else will tell me that that is incorrect?
    As hard as it is you need to stick to social distancing from your grandson for now and would need to do that even if you didn't have this scare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Tell that to Greyhound - they can barely bother to empty bins on a normal week

    Never had a problem with them ever. Services like this need carry on and be supported.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Lackey wrote: »
    yes :(

    Yes but it's their normal placement brought forward - still think they could be compensated something for their work in these times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Strumms wrote: »
    FG throughout their history have been beholden to big business or any business. They wanted money to keep rolling into the country and they don’t want businesses to suffer or miss out. They are a money party. That’s their first priority. They would probably rather see no recession and moderate numbers of ill and dead where the rest of us would rather us, our relatives and friends come out the other side, well and intact with maybe a recession to face and a difficult couple of years, that’s the difference.

    That has a lot to do with it. They had 10 years to take on vested interests in housing, insurance and healthcare. They didn't want to stop flights recently because Aer Lingus and Ryanair's business might suffer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    That has a lot to do with it. They had 10 years to take on vested interests in housing, insurance and healthcare. They didn't want to stop flights recently because Aer Lingus and Ryanair's business might suffer.

    Has spain stopped flights?

    Has the UK?

    Very few countries have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,147 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    That has a lot to do with it. They had 10 years to take on vested interests in housing, insurance and healthcare. They didn't want to stop flights recently because Aer Lingus and Ryanair's business might suffer.

    Would people piss of with this stopping flights would have stopped it arriving here

    It wouldn't period - you would need to completely isolate yourself from the world, block the border with the North, stop all imports, block all outgoing exports (no one is going to trade if you don't allow it reciprocally), stopping any citizens returning - if not stopping then isolating them and that doesn't mean saying stay at home for 2 weeks and so on and so on

    All we can do is manage the situation and keep the new infections low and give the HSE time to keep the critical ones alive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Would people piss of with this stopping flights would have stopped it arriving here

    It wouldn't period - you would need to completely isolate yourself from the world, block the border with the North, stop all imports, block all outgoing exports (no one is going to trade if you don't allow it reciprocally), stopping any citizens returning - if not stopping then isolating them and that doesn't mean saying stay at home for 2 weeks and so on and so on

    All we can do is manage the situation and keep the new infections low and give the HSE time to keep the critical ones alive

    Leo has shares in Aer Lingus.

    Didn't you know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Outbreaks happen every so often.
    The Ebola virus outbreak sticks in my mind as it was recent enough.

    I remember all the plans that were put in place for the Ebola virus at work.
    PPE, isolation rooms, SOPs, how would we process patient samples. The virus was transmitted through fluids so opening blood samples on a tracked analyser would require decontaminating our whole system for each sample.
    Thankfully that outbreak didnt hit us hard, but we still had to prepare.

    Imagine if we had set up testing centres and developed expensive testing kits and closed all borders at the time. We would cripple the economy every time there was an outbreak.

    That would have been wildly excessive and a waste of time and resources. We didnt set up testing centres for zika either, or swine flu or any other outbreak .
    So why should we have acted sooner for this outbreak?

    We have specialists and experts in positions of power to plan accordingly to any national threat.

    Epidemiologists, scientists, economists, the department of health, the HSE. Its their job to act appropriately when we have to.

    Your comments come from a place of hindsight. Why didn't we see it coming?
    No one saw this coming.

    If you look back over my posting history very little I've said came from hindsight. I could see our early covid cases would come from northern italy because of direct flights there which turned out to be true. I can see huge spikes coming from people who have flown in from London. Social isolation has been a failure as it only takes 10% of idiots to undermine the whole thing. Because of these failures at containment we were always going to have to test thousands of people down the line. It has all followed a very predictable course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,771 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Very little difference really between our current social distancing and the Brits planned lockdown. Be interesting to see how they will police it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    kowloon wrote: »
    Two mentions for bicycle shops, they must be really important.
    josip wrote: »
    Not that important, some of them will close for the 3 weeks.



    Actually very important as an alternative to public transport...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Seems peoole watn the drama of a lockdown for the excitement.

    Until after 1 day they realise its not all banter and jokes.

    They will then blame Leo for going into lockdown.

    Can we all just follow the advice we're been given for now?

    Experts everywhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    Phone repair and pc repair. Essential? Non-Essential?


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