CoVid19 Part X - 1,564 cases ROI (9 deaths) 209 in NI (7 deaths) (25 March) *Read OP*

Shn99 wrote: »

No they dont, but they are being chartered to collect some of the €210m worth of PPE that has been ordered, will be other airlines such as Xiamen Air and Air China transporting it over too. Delta Airlines are sending an A350 aircraft to Dublin tomorrow to collect ventilators from Medtronic that the USA have ordered.

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Valhallapt wrote: »

Your spreading nonsense. Spoken to several passengers including the confirmed case from Spain on Monday evening. Same as I experienced, it’s possible they have met a couple of flights, vast majority in unchecked.

Fair play to you. Pat yourself on the back.

Like I said it's happening, I've spoken to the people doing it.

FVP3 wrote: »

Let's see shall we, if the rate of increase slows with the existing measures.

I don't think Ireland could enforce a full lockin for everybody's house anyway; in China entire apartment blocks could be locked down, but we mostly live in houses. A policeman in every street in every housting estate dragging adults back to their houses is probably not achievable, or desirable. And may in fact backfire if attempted. However if the facts change and rate of increase continues to accelerate I will change my opinion on that.

The measures we have already taken are unprecedented in peacetime. We should perhaps close any existing markets or tourist attractions ( including maybe parks and beaches) where social distancing isn't happening. From what I see in the supermarket today, people are very careful and queues are marked with the 2 metre distance, and adhered to, as was the control of who got into the shop.

stopping people going for a walk isn't going to affect much.

Think again. The government now has ample emergency powers at their disposal.

Peacetime, my backside. Its an unprecedented global pandemic in our lifetime that if not taken seriously will cause a huge amount of unnecessary deaths. It is a war. There can be NO complacency.

The rate of acceleration WILL continue.

It is posts like this and that general attitude that some people have that has Italy and Spain in the positions they are in. National emergency, national guard, lockdowns when the horse has bolted. People ignored advice.

If you have been guided by announcements, Varadkars message to the nation was strong, but was signifying further moves. This is a well choreographed and phased level of panic. But it needs to move on. Otherwise we will be in the same boat when the numbers become unmanageable. It happens quickly.

Valhallapt wrote: »

Your Fine Gael spins doctors

Haha I didn't vote FG and I'll tell my friends that are working in the airport that you called them that.
I'm sure they'll love it, many only seeing their families for an hour or 2 a day at the moment.

Idiot

cloudatlas wrote: »

The word 'on the frontline' is being overused now. Comparing a supermarket worker to a critical care physician is a bit much.

Everybody is a lynchpin dont ya know! The real heros or whatever dont give a flying **** about any of the absoloute scutter being posted about frontline heros all over social media.

holyhead wrote: »

I would agree that frontline is a bit lively to be applied to a supermarket worker. But I think we can all agree that those working in the supermarket are helping to keep an essential service, i.e. access to food, open and deserve due respect.

And doing so when there is a risk of infection out there.

Valhallapt wrote: »

I’m in isolation since then

100% isolation? Did you get a lift home? Bus?

The reality is that people have probably weighed up their choices and realised that coming home to Ireland was their only real option. I find some of the stuff being thrown around at people travelling home to be a bit much - fair enough, if someone like the example above was symptomatic than he should have been quarantined/isolated straight away, not going to the shop.

But on the other hand we're all supposed to assume we're carriers - this thing is already in the community in Ireland. Someone getting off a plane might have the virus, but someone who hasn't travelled at all but just goes to the shop/commutes to work/goes to school/college could easily pick up the virus that way too. All of these things were being done up until last week. If you're a recent arrival you're advised at the airport to isolate for 2 weeks as much as possible. But depending on where you're actually going you're going to need to pick up food supplies, possibly get public transport... Just not as easy as getting off the plane and jumping straight into bed is it.

Enjoying a few ciders in the warm afternoon sunshine

The end of the world can wait

lawred2 wrote: »

There's a peculiar characteristic in people where they consider everyone else to be the crowd..

Stuck on traffic.. "bloody traffic is terrible"
Busy Streets.. "Jesus have people any homes to go to"
Out in the woods.. "Jesus no social distancing around here ha! Is anyone listening to the government at all!?'

Everybody thinks that everyone else needs to make sacrifices in this crisis. Everyone else that is, obviously I shouldn’t be expected to make any sacrifices.
They’re are people wandering around tramore quite literally wondering to themselves what the other people are doing there when we were all told to stay at home.
Obviously it doesn’t apply to me because I work hard all week and I’d like to get some fresh air on Sunday, but all these other people need to go home.

Mwengwe wrote: »

100% isolation? Did you get a lift home? Bus?

The reality is that people have probably weighed up their choices and realised that coming home to Ireland was their only real option. I find some of the stuff being thrown around at people travelling home to be a bit much - fair enough, if someone like the example above was symptomatic than he should have been quarantined/isolated straight away, not going to the shop.

But on the other hand we're all supposed to assume we're carriers - this thing is already in the community in Ireland. Someone getting off a plane might have the virus, but someone who hasn't travelled at all but just goes to the shop/commutes to work/goes to school/college could easily pick up the virus that way too. All of these things were being done up until last week. If you're a recent arrival you're advised at the airport to isolate for 2 weeks as much as possible. But depending on where you're actually going you're going to need to pick up food supplies, possibly get public transport... Just not as easy as getting off the plane and jumping straight into bed is it.

I fully agree.

My point is that it’s not that safe going to busy shops and busy parks, people are infected and spreading it. It won’t be grand.

cosanostra wrote: »

Gardai are about to close a beach in Donegal which is packed with tourists

Which beach? Rossnowlagh? Where ever it is, I’m delighted to hear that.