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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Aj007


    Hi all. Just my 2 cents here. Hope I'm not breaching any rules.
    I've had some symptoms progressing through out the day today and I had to do some deliveries to customers so I was a bit trigger happy in trying to get talking to a doctor for some advice.
    Being a Saturday i knew my GP would not be working but I dialed the primary care centre incase there would be any info given in the "We are unable to take your call message". I guess that would be a bit much to expect.
    I then went to the HSE website for the info I needed. Advice given was:
    Don't go to a hospital, doctor or pharmacy. Call your GP and they will asses your symptoms and organise a test if necessary. Yeah we have all heard this before.
    Anyway I Dialled the local out of hours doctor MiDoc. This seemed logical but didn't turn out that way.
    When the doc answered, I obviously started to explain that I believed I may be developing symptoms of the coronavirus but she abruptly stopped me in my tracks saying that she could not do any assessment or provide any test and advised me to contact my GP on Monday.
    So I asked her what I should do If my situation deteriorated.
    She replied, follow the guidelines on the HSE website.
    I then explained that that was what I thought I was doing right now.
    She then said she couldn't help me.
    I asked her if the coronavirus is a deadly virus?
    She said it is.
    I replied, yet I have to wait 48 hours to raise the issue with a doctor? Can I go to A+E.
    She said absolutely not, just follow the guidelines on the HSE website.

    Moral of the story is don't get Coronavirus at the weekend.

    Does this scenario sound balmy to you guys ?
    Does anyone know if you can just rock up to a drive thru testing centre without a referral? I'm thinking not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    connachta wrote: »
    Chloroquine
    Coronavirus is old story in 1 month

    You are not being charged by the word.
    What's your sceal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    JRant wrote: »
    Having the kids play in the back gardens is a God send after nearly 3 months of storms. I hope the fine weather continues for their sake. Bad enough keeping them in but they need a bit of fresh air in the garden as well.

    I must admit I fear if this gets as bad as some people are scaremongering a big storm hitting could be the straw that brakes the camels back. We were out of power for 2 days in recent storms, my guess is that if the same storm hit in the next 2 weeks power would be out for much longer. No power, no cash points card payments etc etc.... social disorder... Please lets pray the weather is fine/soft no storms..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    Some of the percentages for your mortality rate on your table are incorrect.

    No. Cases|No. Deaths|Mortality Rate
    1|0|0%
    2|0|0%
    6|0|0%
    13|0|0%
    18|0|0%
    19|0|0%
    21|0|0%
    24|0|0%
    34|0|0%
    43|1|2.33%
    70|1|1.43%
    90|1|1.11%
    129|2|1.55%
    169|2|1.18%
    223|2|0.90%
    292|2|0.68%
    366|2|0.55%
    557|3|0.54%
    683|3|0.44%
    785|3|0.38%

    Which ones?

    All are correct based on number of cases versus deaths on day of death reporting.

    Edit: Just day 22 was input wrong, corrected now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    The key number surely will be established when they develop a test to show who has had it. It might be that loads of us have.....a huge multiple of those reported. Until we see that number it’s really hard to know the trajectory of this. It a large number of us (many tens or into the hundreds of thousands) have had this already, then I’m confident that the lockdown will not have to last long. And we’ll finally know the denominator for the death rate calculation.

    That doesn’t have any bearing, of course, on the absolute number of people being admitted to the ICU now and over coming days. But it would tell a lot about our trajectory

    I just dont get how anyone can predict anything until we have that number. Everything is a guess

    You can't test everyone. You can test a representitive sample of the population akin to an opinion poll. You can then extrapolate from this that a certain percentage are infected. It might also tell you where clusters are. Unfortunately I don't think we have the resources for that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭otnomart


    bekker wrote: »
    No necessarily correct ..

    'After extensive analysis, the Milan team has not yet identified the individual at the root of the worst outbreak in Europe, but they have matched the Italian genetic sequencing of the virus here to a case that emerged in Germany in January.

    “The sequence closest to the base of the branch, which is the one that probably precedes the others, came from a person infected in Munich in all likelihood between Jan. 19-22,” said Massimo Galli, head of the university research group and of the infectious-diseases department at Milan’s Sacco hospital.

    Galli added that the German patient had caught the virus after contacting someone who came from Shanghai.

    He said their analysis showed that the Italian outbreak must have started between Jan. 25-26, well before the first patient was officially diagnosed in the northern town of Codogno.

    “We can imagine that a person who contracted the virus in the context of those infected in Munich came to Italy and the area where the virus first spread without showing any symptoms,” Galli told Reuters.'

    Reports all over German media <> fact


    Yes


    And also confirmed by Nexstrain - data from the GISAID Initiative - the international sharing of virus sequences.
    https://www.gisaid.org/


    "a decent fraction (10/43) of sequenced viruses sampled after Feb 1 belong to a particular genetic lineage
    This lineage contains viruses sampled from Germany, Switzerland, Finland, Italy, Brazil and Mexico
    At the base of this lineage lies the sample Germany/BavPat1/2020. This was "patient 1" in Bavaria who was infected by a business colleague visiting from China.

    Incredibly, it appears that this cluster containing Germany/BavPat1/2020 is the direct ancestor of these later viruses and thus led directly to some fraction of the widespread outbreak circulating in Europe today"


    https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1235104921260675072


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Teenagers are not Automatons which you can program to behave the way you want.
    While not fully mature they are intelligent and rational human beings. they need to be educated like the rest of us and will rebel if treated the way you prescribe.

    I have no idea of your background so wont presume. but maybe try talking to a few teenagers if you get the chance.

    Painting them all with the same brush is lazy and for the most part plain wrong.

    I know exactly what teens are like they are impossible and I use to be one.;)

    Me having a little rant is not painting them anyway and I am sure they don't care anyway.

    Having teens in groups is spreading this thing and by the way I was calling people packing pubs in Dublin the other weekend selfish pricks and they were adults.

    We need to get EVERYBODY to play along to try and get on top of this thing.

    It will be a nice chat to have with little Timmy to explain that he has killed is Grandma it is that serious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Aj007 wrote: »
    Hi all. Just my 2 cents here. Hope I'm not breaching any rules.
    I've had some symptoms progressing through out the day today and I had to do some deliveries to customers so I was a bit trigger happy in trying to get talking to a doctor for some advice.
    Being a Saturday i knew my GP would not be working but I dialed the primary care centre incase there would be any info given in the "We are unable to take your call message". I guess that would be a bit much to expect.
    I then went to the HSE website for the info I needed. Advice given was:
    Don't go to a hospital, doctor or pharmacy. Call your GP and they will asses your symptoms and organise a test if necessary. Yeah we have all heard this before.
    Anyway I Dialled the local out of hours doctor MiDoc. This seemed logical but didn't turn out that way.
    When the doc answered, I obviously started to explain that I believed I may be developing symptoms of the coronavirus but she abruptly stopped me in my tracks saying that she could not do any assessment or provide any test and advised me to contact my GP on Monday.
    So I asked her what I should do If my situation deteriorated.
    She replied, follow the guidelines on the HSE website.
    I then explained that that was what I thought I was doing right now.
    She then said she couldn't help me.
    I asked her if the coronavirus is a deadly virus?
    She said it is.
    I replied, yet I have to wait 48 hours to raise the issue with a doctor? Can I go to A+E.
    She said absolutely not, just follow the guidelines on the HSE website.

    Moral of the story is don't get Coronavirus at the weekend.

    Does this scenario sound balmy to you guys ?
    Does anyone know if you can just rock up to a drive thru testing centre without a referral? I'm thinking not.

    How bad are your symptoms. If they are not and self isolate yourself until Monday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    The present crisis has shown up Greta Thunberg and co. Shown her to be a child, immature.

    She was in the headlines throughout 2019. She could easily be posting online messages that her peer group and followers would see, on how to behave responsibly during the virus spread. She could call on certain governments for lockdown etc. But just a one trick pony.

    That leads me to conclude she's just a tool used by others with agenda related to climate change.

    People gave out to Martin Luther King when he voiced opposition to Vietnam, that he should stick to civil rights. He replied that he was fighting segregation all his life, he wasn't going to segregate his thoughts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    Aj007 wrote: »
    Hi all. Just my 2 cents here. Hope I'm not breaching any rules.
    I've had some symptoms progressing through out the day today and I had to do some deliveries to customers so I was a bit trigger happy in trying to get talking to a doctor for some advice.
    Being a Saturday i knew my GP would not be working but I dialed the primary care centre incase there would be any info given in the "We are unable to take your call message". I guess that would be a bit much to expect.
    I then went to the HSE website for the info I needed. Advice given was:
    Don't go to a hospital, doctor or pharmacy. Call your GP and they will asses your symptoms and organise a test if necessary. Yeah we have all heard this before.
    Anyway I Dialled the local out of hours doctor MiDoc. This seemed logical but didn't turn out that way.
    When the doc answered, I obviously started to explain that I believed I may be developing symptoms of the coronavirus but she abruptly stopped me in my tracks saying that she could not do any assessment or provide any test and advised me to contact my GP on Monday.
    So I asked her what I should do If my situation deteriorated.
    She replied, follow the guidelines on the HSE website.
    I then explained that that was what I thought I was doing right now.
    She then said she couldn't help me.
    I asked her if the coronavirus is a deadly virus?
    She said it is.
    I replied, yet I have to wait 48 hours to raise the issue with a doctor? Can I go to A+E.
    She said absolutely not, just follow the guidelines on the HSE website.

    Moral of the story is don't get Coronavirus at the weekend.

    Does this scenario sound balmy to you guys ?
    Does anyone know if you can just rock up to a drive thru testing centre without a referral? I'm thinking not.

    you done deliveries today while showing symptoms?

    If you have the Virus you have possibly spread the virus to everyone you have delivered to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Fleetwoodmac


    My girls have it a bit harder as I was in isolation in St.James's for all but a year(had the whole bring in the family/priests thing twice) -
    and then all but lockdown for the following year and hospitalised twice - only saw me every 4/6 weeks for a year and then every 2 weeks since. Every Winter we have to be careful and as we (I) finally thought we could have a cracking year, no hospital this Winter and had approval to take them abroad from Hospital team - this happens.
    We've planted seeds - first year I could touch soil, so that's something!

    Ah makeandcreate that must have been scary for all of ye. I bet they are delighted to have you home and plenty of time for holidays. Garden best thing for the head.. seed and spud planting here too. Keep well and enjoy time with kids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    froog wrote: »
    complete lockdown in italy, essential supply chains only.

    Thankfully we wont be like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Aj007 wrote: »
    Hi all. Just my 2 cents here. Hope I'm not breaching any rules.
    I've had some symptoms progressing through out the day today and I had to do some deliveries to customers so I was a bit trigger happy in trying to get talking to a doctor for some advice.
    Being a Saturday i knew my GP would not be working but I dialed the primary care centre incase there would be any info given in the "We are unable to take your call message". I guess that would be a bit much to expect.
    I then went to the HSE website for the info I needed. Advice given was:
    Don't go to a hospital, doctor or pharmacy. Call your GP and they will asses your symptoms and organise a test if necessary. Yeah we have all heard this before.
    Anyway I Dialled the local out of hours doctor MiDoc. This seemed logical but didn't turn out that way.
    When the doc answered, I obviously started to explain that I believed I may be developing symptoms of the coronavirus but she abruptly stopped me in my tracks saying that she could not do any assessment or provide any test and advised me to contact my GP on Monday.
    So I asked her what I should do If my situation deteriorated.
    She replied, follow the guidelines on the HSE website.
    I then explained that that was what I thought I was doing right now.
    She then said she couldn't help me.
    I asked her if the coronavirus is a deadly virus?
    She said it is.
    I replied, yet I have to wait 48 hours to raise the issue with a doctor? Can I go to A+E.
    She said absolutely not, just follow the guidelines on the HSE website.

    Moral of the story is don't get Coronavirus at the weekend.

    Does this scenario sound balmy to you guys ?
    Does anyone know if you can just rock up to a drive thru testing centre without a referral? I'm thinking not.

    Try to call any GP until someone picks up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Just watching Contagion. F**k me. To think when I first watched this I thought it was way over the top.

    Not anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    The present crisis has shown up Greta Thunberg and co. Shown her to be a child, immature.

    She was in the headlines throughout 2019. She could easily be posting online messages that her peer group and followers would see, on how to behave responsibly during the virus spread. She could call on certain governments for lockdown etc. But just a one trick pony.

    That leads me to conclude she's just a tool used by others with agenda related to climate change.

    People gave out to Martin Luther King when he voiced opposition to Vietnam, that he should stick to civil rights. He replied that he was fighting segregation all his life, he wasn't going to segregate his thoughts.

    She cant make any money from this,hence the silence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    Is there any way of convincing these teens that are so concerned about saving the planet to focus on saving their parents and grandparents? Can Greta Thunberg talk to them or something.

    If you're taking advice from teenagers then you need to have a chat with yourself.
    Encourage them and Plámás them with their messages about the planet but leave it that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Should we not be approaching the point where testing is beside the point? I mean the main point of testing is to identify people with the virus so they can self-isolate, but shouldn't most people be self-isolating as far as possible already?

    Social distancing is different to self isolation. I feel this need to be made clear to people. If you are told to self isolate that means don’t leave you house for anything not even grocery store. You stay in your home for two weeks and don’t leave for walks etc even.

    That is my understanding of self isolation versus what most people are being asked to do. I think this needs to be made clear to people as there is a big difference


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,958 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    connachta wrote: »
    Chloroquine
    Coronavirus is old story in 1 month

    The Lead for clinical management in the WHO Health Emergencies Programme, Dr Janet Diaz said that there is no proof to claims by some that Chloroquine can be a potential treatment for the infection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,783 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    connachta wrote: »
    Chloroquine
    Coronavirus is old story in 1 month

    LkyXtBtiF8p1.gif


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭cloudatlas


    Teens are stupid and selfish and they don't give a sh*t about the planet they are just parroting a mantra that has been brainwashed into them.

    I don't think you can make a blanket statement like that about any age group.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭Rattlehead_ie


    Thankfully we wont be like that.

    Not only wont we be like that....but either will Italy. Haha. Not having a pop @ you smelly, just the way others "report" the news.
    It's a specific region (the worst hit) that is having stricter measures but on it. Not the entire country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Thankfully we wont be like that.

    Hope you are right but what are you basing that on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭otnomart


    antodeco wrote: »
    It's mad all the people blaming Dublin. Didn't the guy in the west of Ireland get it from Italy? He must've been drinking in a Dublin bar over there, full of Dubs


    Three Irish cases in Nextstrain are as follows:
    -the Dublin one was originated via the Netherlands and/or Bavaria (via Italy)
    -one from Limerick was originated via England and/or the Netherlands
    -second one from Limerick is 100% from the Netherlands


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/show...postcount=9150


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Aj007 wrote: »
    Hi all. Just my 2 cents here. Hope I'm not breaching any rules.
    I've had some symptoms progressing through out the day today and I had to do some deliveries to customers so I was a bit trigger happy in trying to get talking to a doctor for some advice.
    Being a Saturday i knew my GP would not be working but I dialed the primary care centre incase there would be any info given in the "We are unable to take your call message". I guess that would be a bit much to expect.
    I then went to the HSE website for the info I needed. Advice given was:
    Don't go to a hospital, doctor or pharmacy. Call your GP and they will asses your symptoms and organise a test if necessary. Yeah we have all heard this before.
    Anyway I Dialled the local out of hours doctor MiDoc. This seemed logical but didn't turn out that way.
    When the doc answered, I obviously started to explain that I believed I may be developing symptoms of the coronavirus but she abruptly stopped me in my tracks saying that she could not do any assessment or provide any test and advised me to contact my GP on Monday.
    So I asked her what I should do If my situation deteriorated.
    She replied, follow the guidelines on the HSE website.
    I then explained that that was what I thought I was doing right now.
    She then said she couldn't help me.
    I asked her if the coronavirus is a deadly virus?
    She said it is.
    I replied, yet I have to wait 48 hours to raise the issue with a doctor? Can I go to A+E.
    She said absolutely not, just follow the guidelines on the HSE website.

    Moral of the story is don't get Coronavirus at the weekend.

    Does this scenario sound balmy to you guys ?
    Does anyone know if you can just rock up to a drive thru testing centre without a referral? I'm thinking not.

    GP must refer anyone for a test anywhere, self isolate asap, take paracetamol, take care and good luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    She cant make any money from this,hence the silence.

    Or like Jurgen Klopp she knows that what she says or does or thinks about this is not, and should not be, important.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    cloudatlas wrote: »
    I don't think you can make a blanket statement like that about any age group.

    I am making it about the ones I have seen out in large groups totally oblivious to the pandemic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭ElBastardo1


    appledrop wrote: »
    Just watching Contagion. F**k me. To think when I first watched this I thought it was way over the top.

    Not anymore.

    Watched it last week. I couldn't believe how accurate it was. The thing that caught my attention was the possible wait for a Vaccine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    jobeenfitz wrote: »
    There may be a simple answer answer to someone spitting.
    I'm a bit forgetful, on the odd occasion I have touched My mouth and just remembered my hands are not clean(cv unclean). Then spitting is a natural reaction to not wanting to swallow a possible virus load.

    Before we All turn into police maybe we should just think. We are human, some of us a bit older and maybe a bit slower. Yes we all need to switch on, this is serious. Humans are not all perfect, virus or no virus.

    Nah spitting on the street is just digusting, even worse when they blow their nose straight out and f*ck everyone walking on it. Animalistic behaviour


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭irishrover99


    Fair play him. License should be revoked and the people in them should be named and shamed in the papers. Anyone who knows a pub opening should report them.

    https://twitter.com/SimonHarrisTD/status/1241443006324097030

    Exactly, where was this guy during the last few years. Same goes for all the government. They have finally stood up and earned the huge salaries and finally deserve credit.


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