CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Cork Boy 53 · 21-03-2020 09:34PM

The percentage of healthcare workers testing positive is worrying added to those that were already told to self isolate in the early stages of the outbreak here. Is there a figure anywhere for total number of healthcare personnel in Ireland?

rob316 · 21-03-2020 09:35PM

munsterlegend wrote: »

On that optimistic note..I really have no idea why Italy is so bad. It’s frightening what has happened in Lombardy in such a short time frame.

Why do people keep saying this. It was allowed spread in a densely populated elderly region undetected. They also have some cultural practices that promote alot of close social contact.

Martina1991 · 21-03-2020 09:35PM

jackboy wrote:

I presume that the lab testers are not working 12 hours a day 7 days a week. So, there must be loads of new staff in the labs. These will not nearly be as efficient as the experienced staff, for a while anyway.

Medical Scientists

Funny you should say that. I work in a lab. We are completely changing our roster as of next week.

We are divided into 3 groups. Each group works a 12 hour day 8am to 8pm. Then one person is on call 8pm to 8am.
It means we have 1/3 of the workforce in now instead of mixing with everyone. And if one person gets infected the whole staff doesn't have to isolate. Saturdays and Sundays are now a routine day.

The service has to be maintained.

And no, there are no new staff. We were short staffed as it is before the pandemic.

antodeco · 21-03-2020 09:35PM

It's mad all the people blaming Dublin. Didn't the guy in the west of Ireland get it from Italy? He must've been drinking in a Dublin bar over there, full of Dubs

Be right back · 21-03-2020 09:35PM

What's the story about small county towns? Drove through Fermoy today and lots of places have shut up shop.

DeVore · 21-03-2020 09:35PM

Its possible that the number of tests is lower than before.
Its possible that the number of infected is lower.
Its possible that children turn out to be bigger carriers of this than before and we got lucky closing schools early.
Could be statistical fluke.
Could be variation from Paddys day holidays.

We dont know and two days is not a trend. What we do know is that the first country to let this run riot is now touching 1k dead a day and the army are shipping coffins out of the region as the mortuaries are not able to cope.

Lets wait a few days before heading back to the pub eh?

iguana · 21-03-2020 09:36PM

stockshares wrote: »

In case it wasn't posted earlier here's the Gov press release for today 21st March

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/f0c391-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-saturday-21/

Why are the case percentages so wrong? It's saying Dublin has 55% of cases but 320 cases out of 785. That's just over 40%. It says Cork has 15% with 88 cases. But that's actually just over 11%. It says Limerick has 3% with 15 cases but that's actually under 2%. It says Galway has 4% with 21 cases but that's actually a little over 2.5%.

What am I missing?

Aidric · 21-03-2020 09:36PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

With the death toll rising and no cure, could happen, obviously hope not

Why are accounts like this allowed to exist? Contributes nothing substantial to the topic being discussed. Just drops in with a nonsensical one liner. Troll accounts like this should be shut down. All they are doing is throwing petrol in to the fire.

CinemaGuy45 · 21-03-2020 09:36PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

785 cases in Ireland... How is this possible? We were letting in plane loads of people from Italy? There should be more. Or are symptoms really that mild in most of us?

Mild means you don't need to go to hospital.

Media are trying to keep people calm mild cases can be pretty nasty.

As regards the numbers there is a long incubation period and even Leo says the surge is coming.:(

DevilsHaircut · 21-03-2020 09:37PM

Re Italy (from an article of 11 long days ago):

Yet some health officials believe that the virus arrived in Italy long before the first case was discovered. “The virus had probably been circulating for quite some time,” Flavia Riccardo, a researcher in the Department of Infectious Diseases at the Italian National Institute of Health tells TIME. “This happened right when we were having our peak of influenza and people were presenting with influenza symptoms.”

https://time.com/5799586/italy-coronavirus-outbreak/

Akabusi · 21-03-2020 09:37PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I thought you are only contacted back if positive with in 48 hours

No, you are contacted and told the result. I was told it would take 36 hours by the tester.

sheepsh4gger · 21-03-2020 09:38PM

TheValeyard wrote: »

I'm sure not many people even believe or trust the Chinese death figures.

Every plague ends with a guy going around with a horse cart picking up bodies. This it really like the Spanish Flu

Jurgen Klopp · 21-03-2020 09:38PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

785 cases in Ireland... How is this possible? We were letting in plane loads of people from Italy? There should be more. Or are symptoms really that mild in most of us?

Could be many things. Delay in tests and results, more spread out population, look at Dublin compared to some of us "bogger" counties with the one off houses etc

While an ageing workforce no where near as bad as Italy with 23% of the entire population aged 65 and over that's leaving out everyone with serious conditions too

Away With The Fairies · 21-03-2020 09:38PM

KiKi III wrote: »

Do the public need this info? Is it purely to satisfy your curiosity, or is there a genuine need? Patients still deserve to have their privacy protected insofar as possible.

If I was stuck in ICU with this virus, I really don't care who has my information. If it puts the fear into people that someone under 40 with no underlying issues can be critically ill, I'm all for doing anything that helps.

NinjaTruncs · 21-03-2020 09:38PM

kingshankly wrote: »

Your not making sense

What didn't make sense, perhaps I can use simpler words or less logic if it helps comprehension.

Gavlor · 21-03-2020 09:38PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

785 cases in Ireland... How is this possible? We were letting in plane loads of people from Italy? There should be more. Or are symptoms really that mild in most of us?

You do realise that there are over 15 million people between Veneto and Lombardy compared to 5 million here?

giveitholly · 21-03-2020 09:39PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

The percentage of healthcare workers testing positive is worrying added to those that were already told to self isolate in the early stages of the outbreak here. Is there a figure anywhere for total number of healthcare personnel in Ireland?

A lot of them got it while on holidays a few weeks ago and not working on the frontline

cameramonkey · 21-03-2020 09:39PM

zvone wrote: »

Could it be true?! This tweet was erased butt somebody take screenshot...

it is an anomalous post on the internet of course its true.

sheepsh4gger · 21-03-2020 09:39PM

lawred2 wrote: »

These testing numbers are just annoying. Largely meaningless. For them to be meaningful, you would have to test the entire population every day. Testing should only be used to confirm infection because of presented symptoms. They are not a count of 'infected'

And it's not like there's a conflict of interests. They don't want to report the numbers to begin with - same in UK.

BorneTobyWilde · 21-03-2020 09:40PM

Is Voice UK live, geez they've a nice big studio audience .

JP Liz V1 · 21-03-2020 09:40PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

785 cases in Ireland... How is this possible? We were letting in plane loads of people from Italy? There should be more. Or are symptoms really that mild in most of us?

I wonder are people with symptoms just thinking cold flu no need for a test or too scared

Lord TSC · 21-03-2020 09:40PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

With the death toll rising and no cure, could happen, obviously hope not

Liz, even with the crazy fatality rate in Italy, the death rate is "only" 7%. Nowhere near 50% of Italy will die. The absolute worst case scenario, an utter nightmare, would be about 7%.

And that's presuming they aren't just massively undertesting, and the fatality rate isn't round 1-2% like in countries that are mass testing. And presuming that it's 100% infection rate, which even the worst case scenarios haven't been predicting.

KiKi III · 21-03-2020 09:40PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

If I was stuck in ICU with this virus, I really don't care who has my information. If it puts the fear into people that someone under 40 with no underlying issues can be critically ill, I'm all for doing anything that helps.

What if it does the opposite? If most people in ICU are 75+ it could embolden young people who are already taking risks.

CinemaGuy45 · 21-03-2020 09:40PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

it is an anomalous post on the internet of course its true.

USA importing test kits I am sure that is true why would they not?

As regards that photo it could be anything.

DevilsHaircut · 21-03-2020 09:41PM

iguana wrote: »

Why are the case percentages so wrong? It's saying Dublin has 55% of cases but 320 cases out of 785. That's just over 40%. It says Cork has 15% with 88 cases. But that's actually just over 11%. It says Limerick has 3% with 15 cases but that's actually under 2%. It says Galway has 4% with 21 cases but that's actually a little over 2.5%.

What am I missing?

Think the breakdown refers to the 584 total of 19 March (they said they'd only do weekly detailed breakdowns). Webpage misleading though.

Jurgen Klopp · 21-03-2020 09:41PM

KiKi III wrote: »

Do the public need this info? Is it purely to satisfy your curiosity, or is there a genuine need? Patients still deserve to have their privacy protected insofar as possible.

Yes I'm personally curious and its no harm get the statistics out there.

Having a simple breakdown of age, sex and if they have underlying conditions isn't a breach of privacy get grip FFS

fr336 · 21-03-2020 09:42PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Is Voice UK live, geez they've a nice big studio audience .

No if was filmed months ago

bottlebrush · 21-03-2020 09:42PM

Enter name here wrote: »

What hope do we have with groups of teenagers and college kids roaming around like nothing is happening, what chance do we have of controlling it if the parents can't even be arsed keeping them at home or explaining the consequences to them.

Parents need to spell out to them that if the economy tanks there will not be jobs for them when they finish their education.

And emigration wont be an option this time as there wont be jobs anywhere else either.

Iscreamkone · 21-03-2020 09:42PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Im all for reducing air pollution and improving health. However this could cause death at biblical levels.

If 60% got infected and there was a mortality rate of just 1% thats 30000 people. In the space of a few months.

It would take many years of clean air to cancel that out.

WHO reckon 4.6 million die from air pollution annually

Rob A. Bank · 21-03-2020 09:42PM

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP