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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #8102
    [Deleted User]
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    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I've asked this question before but what do effect to people think our population density has on our numbers.

    The fact that we have way less people than Italy China or the UK would it be safe to say we would be likely see the growth in numbers that they have. We don't have big heavily populated cities so there's a natural social isolation that comes with that.

    We have less density. That has to help certainly. People still have to want this fir it to work though.


  • #8103
    dougm1970
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭dougm1970


    question....if someone had it, and got tested say 5-6 days after the symptoms were leaving them....would the test still show as positive ?


  • #8104
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,752 ✭✭✭threeball


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I've asked this question before but what do effect to people think our population density has on our numbers.

    The fact that we have way less people than Italy China or the UK would it be safe to say we would be likely see the growth in numbers that they have. We don't have big heavily populated cities so there's a natural social isolation that comes with that.

    It's a big advantage, you can even see it in the breakdown numbers released. The population and cases have definite correlations.

    London is being hit hard, same for new York, Lombardy is extremely heavily urbanized. People living cheek by jowl is bad news. Our population spread is a huge advantage


  • #8105
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Italy and other European countries showed seesaw numbers too. Up one day, down the next, up and down,

    Yeah but I'd say Italy would take a lower number on anything now.


  • #8106
    moceri
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 460 ✭✭moceri


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    ( from that C4 interview) : first case indentified was Feb 26th by that Doctor. The nurse with Corona.

    The medical staff didn’t stand a chance - there was no lockdown and travel bans at that stage. That’s the fault of the Italian government AND the EU. Despite what was happening in China.

    There is an alternative story that links Italy to an outbreak at German Car Parts company Webasto in January 2020.

    https://www.inquisitr.com/5931767/italy-coronavirus-german-webasto/


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  • #8107
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,746 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Just pure trash it comes from the parents.

    You have it in for parents don't you!? Bitter about something? Kinda heading into old man waves stick at clouds territory..


  • #8108
    WhiteMemento9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,575 ✭✭✭WhiteMemento9


    walshb wrote: »
    So, we don’t have a daily test percentage for positive tests?

    That 102 today. I wonder how many tests that is from...

    This is the thing. We don't have any gauge on the situation without that number. We keeping looking at % increases and saying, oh that is 30% higher or whatever but we have no idea if roughly the same amount of tests get carried out every day. I think over the course of this Saturday has always registered quite low numbers to other days which suggests the capacity isn't as high into the weekend.


  • #8109
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Just caught a Sky News report from Italy - if covid19 victims die in a care home or private home , they ARENT counted in the stats. The Italian death stats are from hospitals.

    Jaysus. This could be way way worse than we can even imagine.


  • #8110
    mosii
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭mosii


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2FkuQZTYO4

    This Guy is fairly accurate all along guys,pretty scary to be honest.


  • #8111
    phobia2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭phobia2011


    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    While it is OT, lads saying the outbreak might reduce pollution and deaths from it

    If 1,000 die each year here from air pollution I'd bet it's most likely people with lung conditions

    So exactly the types that have a large chance of catching and dying from this anyways

    While this is partially true, it never really matters until it’s someone close to home, and as stressed completely avoided


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  • #8112
    Vivienne23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭Vivienne23


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    Useless if you're in Dublin. It should say which post codes to avoid.

    Best avoid most of them , as the UHL ICU doctor said , we need to treat everyone like pariahs !


  • #8113
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    lawred2 wrote: »
    You have it in for parents don't you!? Bitter about something?

    Not really this is just natural parents smoke kids smoke parents work kids work and so on.

    Parents packing out the fast-food outlets last weekend with their brats.


  • #8114
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,578 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Dublin is epicentre in Ireland, and it's opened up to the rest of the country, that's not cool. Dublin needs a lockdown and to stop the flights from UK and europe. We could end this quick with those two things, will drag on for months if we don't.


  • #8115
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,752 ✭✭✭threeball


    walshb wrote: »
    And we’re an island...

    Yes, UK is, too!!

    That can be an advantage or disadvantage depending on how widespread it is. However, if I lived on inis mor there's be no one getting on or off.


  • #8116
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    moceri wrote: »
    There is an alternative story that links Italy to an outbreak at German Car Parts company Webasto in January 2020.

    https://www.inquisitr.com/5931767/italy-coronavirus-german-webasto/

    There is that link. But the main point the Doctor was making was the sheer “tsunami” that happened in 5 days. They didn’t stand a chance.


  • #8117
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    dougm1970 wrote: »
    question....if someone had it, and got tested say 5-6 days after the symptoms were leaving them....would the test still show as positive ?

    It can yes.


  • #8118
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,024 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    Just caught a Sky News report from Italy - if covid19 victims die in a care home or private home , they ARENT counted in the stats. The Italian death stats are from hospitals.

    Jaysus. This could be way way worse than we can even imagine.

    How many people in care homes do you think are dying of covid19 without going to hospital first?

    The number of people who die from this outside of a hospital is going to be negligible. It does not seem to be a fast killer.


  • #8119
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,337 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Number of new cases appears to be decreasing each day? Too early to celebrate yet. A decrease in restrictions ould cause a spike


  • #8120
    Bob24
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,905 ✭✭✭✭Bob24


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Italy was too slow and over 50K Italians have been fined for flouting these stricter restrictions, the kind of attitude that allowed it to spread in the first place. Let's not forget the countless idiots who did a runner from Lombardy the day they locked it down.

    Definitely agree their reaction was too slow and too mild initially (i was amongst the early advocates of locking down northern Italy and I still remember people saying I was an idiot for it).

    But we only reacted marginally earlier in the development of the epidemic, and our containment measures are fairly loose.


  • #8121
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    NinjaTruncs wrote:
    For those saying 102 is good that it's a drop, it's possible less samples were tested today as it's a weekend.
    Laboratories are working 24/7. There is no reduction in service for Covid19 testing at the weekend.

    NinjaTruncs wrote:
    Do you know that for sure, as I know the virus reference lab has reduced staff at the weekend and it's the only place testing the samples.
    There are now 12 labs performing Covid19 testing. This is being increased to more hospital labs.
    marklazarcovic wrote:
    Am I the only one who thinks just hitting 10k tested in Ireland now is appalling? After what,8 weeks?
    What are you basing that on? What number would you be happy with? 500 a day? 1000 a day?

    The numbers are what they are. We are testing at current capacity. If you don't understand the testing process and procedures then you don't know what the throughout can be.
    munsterlegend wrote:
    Yes but labs here are not a full capacity over a weekend to authorise all the results. Hopefully it is a downward daily trend but I would wait until Tuesday/Wednesday to see how the daily numbers are.
    Hospital laboratories have reduced staff at weekends but emergency services like Covid19 testing is being performed 24/7.


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  • #8122
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    threeball wrote: »
    That can be an advantage or disadvantage depending on how widespread it is. However, if I lived on inis mor there's be no one getting on or off.

    South Korea is technically an island too - because of the DMZ with the North. Yet they had a huge outbreak. ( which they got on top of , thankfully)


  • #8123
    Funsterdelux
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    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Exactly the deaths and ICU patients are the most important and while 3 deaths is three too many compared to other countries it's very low.

    If we can keep the age profile low, similar to what it is we might have a chance of minimising deaths. Keeping parents/grandparents/elderly/vunerable isolated.


  • #8124
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    wexandproud wrote: »
    just spoke to a friend who used to work in a shop in Rosslare. I say used to because she walked out her job today due to the crowds . Holiday homes full of dubs and wait for it , English and French . Absolute disgrace she said . was like a day at peak holiday time
    time to call in the army and round them all up and lock them away . Absolute c..ts the whole lot of em

    When I read stuff like that, our government need to immediately:
    Shut down passenger flights to and from the UK as people coming from there are clearly not isolating.
    Shut down civilian ferry traffic to the UK and France.
    Limit travel to and from Dublin as much as possible.

    Without draconian measures we could see an explosion in cases and deaths in the next few weeks.

    Our lockdown is a complete farce especially the travellers to and from the UK.


  • #8125
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Dublin is epicentre in Ireland
    in all things, not just coronavirus


  • #8126
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Number of new cases appears to be decreasing each day? Too early to celebrate yet. A decrease in restrictions ould cause a spike

    Surely with the new drive thru test centres opening late this week....will see numbers spike


    Hopefully we will come in under 10,000 cases for end of month,well shy of the 15K assumed scenario


  • #8127
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Bob24 wrote: »
    Definitely their reaction was too slow and too mild initially (I still remember people insulting me on boards for saying they needed a lockdown).

    But we only reacted marginally earlier, and our containment measures are fairly loose.

    There is sellotape on the floors of some supermarkets to keep people apart I mean what more can be done.;)


  • #8128
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    awec wrote: »
    How many people in care homes do you think are dying of covid19 without going to hospital first?

    The number of people who die from this outside of a hospital is going to be negligible. It does not seem to be a fast killer.

    The problem is - the hospitals are full. Italy experienced that tsunami “peak” very rapidly.


  • #8129
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Vivienne23 wrote: »
    Best avoid most of them , as the UHL ICU doctor said , we need to treat everyone like pariahs !
    We will know 2 weeks from now when they start putting bodies out. It always ends with that.
    The government is dysfunctional



  • #8130
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Divert as much possible resources to testing in the large urban areas, over 40% of the country is rural that matters and anyone dismissing population density as a reason why we aren't ****ed are ignorant.
    England has about 10% rural population.

    Be positive guys, our government acted swiftly and appropriately. It will be weeks before the social distance measures yield results aswell.

    Test test test, isolate isolate isolate. That is the only way to beat this back.


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  • #8131
    kingshankly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,012 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    NinjaTruncs wrote: »
    No, what I think is there were less samples tested today compared to yesterday and that's why the number of positive tests is lower today.

    Your not making sense


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