CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

Bigboldworld wrote: »

Thanks for answer and I understand what you are saying but the crux of my question is why is italy being decimated by the the virus far more than other countries in Europe given that many countries have cases? Is it because they were hit first and the rest are playing catch up?

I’m not too sure but from what I have read this may have started in Italy earlier due to people visiting from affected areas from China. Personally I feel that Italy has been hit hard because they are the first country dealing with this. I think they’ve handled it to the best of their ability. When we look at China compared to Europe, they don’t have the liberties that we have. People were told very early on that they were not to leave.

Hong Kong for example is next to affected region but would be well prepared for disease control from experiencing SARS. Unfortunately, disease control works best when people adhere to strict rules and restriction....in Europe this is our downfall imo. I don’t see why other countries won’t be as bad as Italy if they don’t follow advice being given

statesaver wrote: »

Bit early for programmes like that. Do we even know the truth of what happened in Wuhan yet ?

Lessons from South Korea would be more helpful. They're pretty much an island nation because of their DMZ with North Korea.

Blaze420 wrote: »

Not taking sides here at all but they are 100% to blame for this - what other country is eating bats in a soup?? Disgusting habits that the Chinese government need to stamp out as soon as this is under control, but it is 100% their fault.

The virus is one thing. The lack of preparedness, information, strategy and instruction is another thing entirely.

If it wasn't this virus, it would be another. Bill Gates did a TED talk on it in 2015 which pretty much mapped out exactly what we are seeing happen.

The reason Bolton, Trump and others are focusing on the former element is because they know they have been found wanting on the latter.

humberklog wrote: »

That's got to go some way to explaining it however the mortality figures are way higher than other countries. I don't have the maths but I wonder how the percentage of Italian elderly population and their mortality rate compares to say Spanish/French/Swiss (I cite these as climate, genetics and health service wouldn't be a million miles apart).

Is there the possibility that there's something else effecting the Italians such as a strong MRSA strain in the hospitals or some other bacteria that has been lying benign within the Italians?

I mentioned this before, a high percentage of Italians who were infected with CoVid-19 smoke, about 45%, and air quality in the north of the country which is highly industrialised is not good either. Alongside an older population and overwhelmed and stretched health services. Smoking levels in males in China and Iran is similar and these make up most fatalities in their countries.

It seems that if your lungs are compromised in any way (asthma, COPD, smoking etc) then this virus is deadly.

Blaze420 wrote: »

Not taking sides here at all but they are 100% to blame for this - what other country is eating bats in a soup?? Disgusting habits that the Chinese government need to stamp out as soon as this is under control, but it is 100% their fault.

Palau. That's where the video of someone eating bat soup is from, but obviously it went viral and people then claimed it was in Hubei to suit the narrative. No doubt there were bats at the market, whether they were actually being eaten is debatable and I honestly doubt bat soup is on the menu there.

Blaze420 wrote: »

We eat chicken beef and fish - we don’t eat bats, snakes, dogs, cats like they do

It would have been contained if they listened to that Whistleblower doctor that later died because of it. Their lack of transparency has now made the whole world suffer. They have to be accountable

You cant compare Ireland to Italy

Sittingpretty wrote: »

I actually saw a woman come out the door of my local chemist today and spit on the ground

What hope have we with maggoty bags like that let loose?!?

Yeah, I've seen multiple people still spitting. Also kids coughing in peoples faces deliberately as they walk by, im assuming they find it funny.

circadian wrote: »

Palau. That's where the video of someone eating bat soup is from, but obviously it went viral ....

and the video was shared a lot too

There are live animal slaughter houses like this still operating in places like Thailand that are run by crime sydicates, Every type of exotic animal under the sun put in cages centimeters apart from one another . Alot have viruses that dont effect their immune system but do effect animals with weaker immunes and humans. i cant be arsed linking the you tube video but its austraila's '60 minutes'. They went undercover in all.
This kinda thing can happen on a daily basis in some parts of esatern asia.

Blaze420 wrote: »

There is a video of the Wuhan market online if you want to watch it - you can see the bats on skewers just before they go to the ***** barbecuing dogs with a blowtorch...

Dogmeat isn't a known resovoir of viruses like bat's though. Dog meat is a cultural difference. Just like horse meat and other meats. We don't have a huge variety of meat in our diets, again it's cultural.

Again, these markets need to be regulated heavily or shut down. There's no need to have bats, pangolin or other endangered species in such a place.