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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #7562
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    trapp wrote: »
    It's natural to hope and be optimistic.

    Just because something happens in one place doesn't mean it will repeat elsewhere.

    If you're such an expert in epidemics and pandemics why are you posting on here instead of working with the WHO or HSE.

    Fact is you're just predicting or guessing, you don't know.

    I'm aware of the cognitive bias that we all possess. Normalcy bias. I like hope but it must be real hope and not tainted by horse ****.


  • #7563
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    moonlighting_1 wrote: »
    233 deaths confirmed so far in the UK
    Epic **** show is going to unfold over the coming days.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NxLZ39EIEc

    Someone enlighten me, are the UK on the same path as Italy are at this stage? I've seen claims they are at the same figures as Italy were at the that stage of the outbreak in Italy.


  • #7564
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    TheValeyard wrote: »
    I predict chaos over there. The likes of which have not been seen since 2011or even the '91 or' 81 riots

    Yes and likely the end of Johnson as PM. Silver lining and all that.


  • #7565
    Humberto Salazar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    And no surprise, John Bolton has blamed China for all this, and that "the world must hold them accountable". Does anyone ever muzzle this loose cannon?


  • #7566
    moonlighting_1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭moonlighting_1


    Italy reports another 793 deaths in past day in world's worst coronavirus crisis

    https://twitter.com/bbcbreaking/status/1241410477504237568?s=21


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  • #7567
    Rocko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭Rocko


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    Posting some video without any context as to what it is and asking for opinions is something that only a c↓nt would do.

    That's what I think.

    Cool down sunshine.

    In this instance Tommy Robinson was 100% correct in standing up for an old woman against scum

    Not many would do it with 3 against 1


  • #7568
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    macnug wrote: »
    It doesnt sound too bad when you say it like that but imagine the panic when we get to ~50 deaths a day.


    One good reason to flatten the curve.!


    However. If we cocoon the elderly and treat everyone who is seriously ill
    we can reduce that number further.


    I honestly think they know what they are doing.


  • #7569
    Bigboldworld
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭Bigboldworld


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    I feel that the health system is just completely overwhelmed. There is only so much care possible to give to people. They are doing their best. Doctors in Italy have never seen anything like this and are appealing to other countries to lockdown or they will be the same. We still have no quarantine, screening or flight restrictions. I’m still struggling to understand why. The slower this takes off over here the more manageable it will be. The large influx of cases Italy is experiencing has overwhelmed the health care system

    Thanks for answer and I understand what you are saying but the crux of my question is why is italy being decimated by the the virus far more than other countries in Europe given that many countries have cases? Is it because they were hit first and the rest are playing catch up?


  • #7570
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    I'm aware of the cognitive bias that we all possess. Normalcy bias. I like hope but it must be real hope and not tainted by horse ****.

    Not all countries are following Italy's path - Norway has 2,000 cases, but just 7 deaths, so no reason our trajectory couldn't be similar.


  • #7571
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,996 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    el Fenomeno wrote: »
    Are there studies to suggest when the lockdown should start showing in Italy's figures? Or, God forbid, is this already it (and the numbers would be much higher if not for their lockdown)?

    They came into effect 12 days ago. The benefit will hopefully be seen soon in terms of case numbers.


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  • #7572
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Bigboldworld wrote: »
    Can anyone explain why Italy’s death rate is completely sky rocketing, devastating for them, why on earth with the restrictions in place is the death rate still rising astronomically? What is it that is making Italy so susceptible to this virus

    I was just guessing according to some people but 15 days ago......
    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Could be. I don't know.


    This will defo be a supply side problem though.


    How many people have it? -> limiting factor how many tests do we have?
    How many people are in hospital? -> How many beds do we have?
    How many people in ICU? -> How many ICU beds do we have?
    How many people will die? -> whatever is left over.


  • #7573
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Yes and likely the end of Johnson as PM. Silver lining and all that.

    you are rooting for the virus, good man!

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #7574
    zvone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭zvone


    My wife just came from job in Whitewater shopping centre. Most shops a closed but food court a opened. It was overcrowded. Lots of kids, families, older peoples... social distancing? This is joke.
    Talk is cheep, appeals a useless, we need a lock down NOW.


  • #7575
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Humberto Salazar wrote: »
    And no surprise, John Bolton has blamed China for all this, and that "the world must hold them accountable". Does anyone ever muzzle this loose cannon?
    Given who he's been associating with, COVID-19. Though Pompeo who's been glad-handing across the globe is a more likely candidate.


  • #7576
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,996 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Bambi wrote: »
    Someone enlighten me, are the UK on the same path as Italy are at this stage? I've seen claims they are at the same figures as Italy were at the that stage of the outbreak in Italy.

    Exactly the same number of deaths as Italy had 14 days ago.


  • #7577
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    I really fear desite our best efforts our own cases will take off because of people going back and forth to the UK.

    Whats the point of shutting down and putting 500,000 out of work if the government don't close the airports to passenger flights especially passenger flights to the UK?

    We might as well not shut down at all.


  • #7578
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,452 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Rocko wrote: »
    Taking Tommy Robinson's past outta of it, don't want to hear of that.

    What ye think of this..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJp7jLRGOqY

    Careful now. The progressive brigade on here will cancel you.


    The lads in the video are uneducated degenerate prawns. Listen to the way they speak and how they interact with the people in the video. They got called out for their sub-human behavior and they don't like it. Bomba clatts!!


  • #7579
    KathleenGrant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    nice addition to the public record. I don't speak French, I was trying to empathise with the poster who can't translate by going outside my comfort zone. Thanks for teaching me something I couldn't care about. Do please address the point Keep trying :pac:

    You were not empathising. You were being an ass. If empathising you didn't need to use the phrase and then say "that's French by the way" I don't care if you care or not. When being an ass you should be called out on it.
    "Address the point" you are an ass.
    "Keep trying" you are an ass.


  • #7580
    Shn99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    A program “Lessons from Wuhan” will be broadcast at 6:30pm on RTE Player and RTE News Now


  • #7581
    FVP3
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    People panicing about the continued increase in Italian numbers should realise that the virus would increase exponentially if it was business as usual. It doesnt stop at 50,000, or 500,000, or even 5 million. This is what has scared the politicians in the lockdown.

    The good news is that the Italian curve is flattening. It took a mere seven days to go from 79 to 1,128 (feb 22 - 29) , another ten to go from that to 10,149 (march 10), and in the last ten days to yesterday the increase has been five fold, to 47000.

    (I am picking the closest numbers to 100, 1,000, 10,000 etc)

    Had the previous trend continued, it would have been more than 100,000 today. We will know more in a week or so.


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  • #7582
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    Update must be for the 9 o clock news?


  • #7583
    Just Saying
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    Surely comparing percentage rates of deaths to cases and also daily increase in cases between countries is futile unless the criteria for testing in each country is similar.


  • #7584
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    bilston wrote: »
    Exactly the same number of deaths as Italy had 14 days ago.
    Hopefully, they won't lose control like the Italians did but it's not looking good.


  • #7585
    C__MC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,255 ✭✭✭C__MC


    I dont know folks
    Lots of people out and about today in my local town
    You cant expect people to just shut their lives down in a confined space unless there is a lock down


  • #7586
    Shn99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Over 10k tests carried out


  • #7587
    Blaze420
    Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    Humberto Salazar wrote: »
    And no surprise, John Bolton has blamed China for all this, and that "the world must hold them accountable". Does anyone ever muzzle this loose cannon?

    Not taking sides here at all but they are 100% to blame for this - what other country is eating bats in a soup?? Disgusting habits that the Chinese government need to stamp out as soon as this is under control, but it is 100% their fault.


  • #7588
    Shn99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1241424625021714443?s=21


  • #7589
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Shn99 wrote: »
    A program “Lessons from Wuhan” will be broadcast at 6:30pm on RTE Player and RTE News Now

    Bit early for programmes like that. Do we even know the truth of what happened in Wuhan yet ?


  • #7590
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Jin luk wrote: »
    Update must be for the 9 o clock news?
    Tweet from Fergal Bowers from a page or so back; they don't usually have a weekends at weekend so will probably just be announced.


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  • #7591
    lbj666
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    Shn99 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1241424625021714443?s=21

    May aswell have a day off when they can.


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