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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭Maxpfizer


    Sadly, another death in Scotland today, their 7th:

    https://twitter.com/scotgov/status/1241364598957248512

    Doesn't this mean that 95% of the tests are negative?

    Why the demand for such widespread testing when almost all are negative?

    Are people not just wasting time and resources by going to get tested when it's not yet necessary?

    Just over 8k is not a lot of tests but presumably anyone showing up at a hospital with symptoms that require medical assistance would be tested anyway so all the severe cases are being registered.

    Whats going on with such a high % of negative tests?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭maxpowers


    niallo27 wrote: »
    To protect jobs. If they follow guidelines then I dont see any issues.

    I agree. 28k jobs at stake here. It can be done imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,501 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    niallo27 wrote:
    To protect jobs. If they follow guidelines then I dont see any issues.
    Who puts the saddle on the horse? Who puts the weights in the saddle? Who leads the horse to the parade ring? Who rides the horse?
    It's normally all different people doing those jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I see Irish horse racing is still going ahead. This means that jockeys, owners and trainers from all over the country are going to racetracks.
    Can anybody tell me how this activity is deemed necessary? Dog racing too.

    There excuse is a lot of employees will lose their jobs if they do not go ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    silverharp wrote: »

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    How come the confirmed cases in UK per capital is much lower than Ireland, especially given their was UK cases first?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    What about just continue like normal. Instead of the money spent on conferences, task forces, the enormous social welfare bill, unlimited loans from our great credit as leo put it. We put it into quickly made hospitals for the sick and old, camps, hotels, ships make it a national effort. While the economy keeps rolling. We may break even with the deaths plus not be in the financial difficulty on which we most definitely will find ourselves.

    Im just in 2 minds all the time wondering which way would be better. Closing things down and social distancing is much more humane. But wreck our economy again. I just don't know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,230 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Happy4all wrote: »
    How come the confirmed cases in UK per capital is much lower than Ireland, especially given their was UK cases first?

    because they're not testing anyone except people who are in hospital with acute symptoms

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,537 ✭✭✭recyclebin


    Happy4all wrote: »
    How come the confirmed cases in UK per capital is much lower than Ireland, especially given their was UK cases first?

    Test numbers. Many countries are reporting the results differently. Some may be deliberately doing it too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    mikeoc85 wrote: »
    Why didn’t we do this during the last crisis? Why don’t poorer countries do this?

    You'd have to ask your public representative.

    They did do this by the way, it just trickled down. This calls for direct injection though.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/european-central-bank-can-print-money-2836666-Jun2016/

    https://www.ecb.europa.eu/mopo/implement/omt/html/index.en.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 728 ✭✭✭Pops_20


    A friend of mine was saying that in his area in Dublin city centre, mice and rats are getting braver and desperate because less footfall means less people are throwing away food in the streets. His neighbour has caught 2 rats in is house in the last week. This has never happened to him before.

    This is interesting. I have seen several foxes in and around Cork City over the last few days. There was even one lying down chilling on the grass in my back garden in the middle of the day. More inclined to come out as there is no one around.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Who puts the saddle on the horse? Who puts the weights in the saddle? Who leads the horse to the parade ring? Who rides the horse?
    It's normally all different people doing those jobs.

    Yes but horses cant spread the disease so does it matter. People are bored at home, having a bet online is some bit of release. You cant stop everything, it's not healthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    silverharp wrote: »


    Trump is so, so, so bad at this. If you grabbed some rando off the street and put him in charge, he would at least be capable of keeping his stupid mouth shut and refrain from contradicting the professionals with brain-worm infested word salad. Trump just can't help himself and he, more than anyone else is the reason that the US is going to get f↓cked badly by this. And of course, he'll blame everyone but himself for it. And his 419-bait supporters will still believe him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    DF assisting the HSE testing:-

    https://twitter.com/DF_Engineers/status/1241374768928116737?s=19

    And welcome back to an old friend, otherwise never though to be returning to service:-

    https://twitter.com/defenceforces/status/1241100204180455431?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,420 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,635 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Happy4all wrote: »
    How come the confirmed cases in UK per capital is much lower than Ireland, especially given their was UK cases first?

    Because they are virtually testing no one in Uk. 39 year women in intensive care with cornavirus who was only tested for the virus on her third admission to hospitial!!!! Imagine how much she spread it on 1st + 2nd admission. That tells you the level of sickness you need to be at either it to get tested over there.

    The UK is riddled with it just haven't bothered testing people.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    michellie wrote: »
    Totally agree... If you could see some of the filthy cars (and customers) that Nct encounters you would not want to be working in those conditions or having a tester in your car after being in other cars.

    Most people in the country are still working. Nct no different. No lockdown.
    Correct decision imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Monkeynut wrote: »
    What about just continue like normal. Instead of the money spent on conferences, task forces, the enormous social welfare bill, unlimited loans from our great credit as leo put it. We put it into quickly made hospitals for the sick and old, camps, hotels, ships make it a national effort. While the economy keeps rolling. We may break even with the deaths plus not be in the financial difficulty on which we most definitely will find ourselves.

    Im just in 2 minds all the time wondering which way would be better. Closing things down and social distancing is much more humane. But wreck our economy again. I just don't know.

    You can build all the hospitals you like but if you dont have the staff to man them its all pointless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Maxpfizer wrote: »
    Doesn't this mean that 95% of the tests are negative?

    Why the demand for such widespread testing when almost all are negative?

    Are people not just wasting time and resources by going to get tested when it's not yet necessary?

    Just over 8k is not a lot of tests but presumably anyone showing up at a hospital with symptoms that require medical assistance would be tested anyway so all the severe cases are being registered.

    Whats going on with such a high % of negative tests?
    Nothing, it's a meaningless figure, just bad reporting bu Scottish Gov. presumably based on total number of tests carried out.

    No such category as Confirmed Negative, following a 'Confirmed' infection, the next classification is 'Recovered', or 'Dead'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Happy4all wrote: »
    How come the confirmed cases in UK per capital is much lower than Ireland, especially given their was UK cases first?




    About 50,000 according to this


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/20/coronavirus-uk-testing-people-tested/


    In Ireland we did 6,636 up to 17/3/2020.
    they publish the numbers weekly so the next update will be on 24th March but they seem to do about 1500 per day( and they also say they are ramping this up)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    GM228 wrote: »
    DF assisting the HSE testing:-

    https://twitter.com/DF_Engineers/status/1241374768928116737?s=19

    And welcome back to an old friend, otherwise never though to be returning to service:-

    https://twitter.com/defenceforces/status/1241100204180455431?s=19


    Martial law coming soon.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Boggles wrote: »

    Jaysus Donald. I'm one of the minority that try go against the grain and sometimes defend his actions. But sometimes that's impossible. Shut up ta **** ya dope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I get all my med advice from Donald

    in this case he is only as good as the experts advising him

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,746 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    When you see how quickly so many arms of the state have been mobilised together to fight this crisis it makes a complete mockery of the 'peace time' nonsense that we tolerate like the f*cking Leinster house printer and schools closing for 'service days'..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    appledrop wrote: »
    Because they are virtually testing no one in Uk. 39 year women in intensive care with cornavirus who was only tested for the virus on her third admission to hospitial!!!! Imagine how much she spread it on 1st + 2nd admission. That tells you the level of sickness you need to be at either it to get tested over there.

    The UK is riddled with it just haven't bothered testing people.


    It doesn't serve the politicians to have the numbers go up. It's a cover up like in China. You can probably calculate the actual numbers from the number of people in hospitals.
    UK is kill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    niallo27 wrote: »
    To protect jobs. If they follow guidelines then I dont see any issues.

    Yes jobs are much more important than lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    If we do go full lockdown, what kind of shops would be allowed to stay open - just Supermarkets and Chemists? Or would Butchers, Fishmongers etc too ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Yes jobs are much more important than lives.

    Well I worry about the mental health issues of people and hos many suicides this will bring but I guess them lives dont matter do they.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    My All Time Favourite songs:

    The Police - Don't stand so close to me

    Britney Spears - Toxic

    Peggy Lee - Fever

    Yeah we all watched the video doing the rounds. Anything original?


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