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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #6062
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Nermal wrote: »
    https://truepundit.com/stanford-professor-data-indicates-were-severely-overreacting-to-coronavirus/

    In an analysis published Tuesday, Stanford’s John P.A. Ioannidis — co-director of the university’s Meta-Research Innovation Center and professor of medicine, biomedical data science, statistics, and epidemiology and population health — suggests that the response to the coronavirus pandemic may be “a fiasco in the making” because we are making seismic decisions based on “utterly unreliable” data. The data we do have, Ioannidis explains, indicates that we are likely severely overreacting.
    ...
    Due to extremely limited testing, we are likely missing “the vast majority of infections” from COVID-19, he states, thus making reported fatality rates from the World Health Organization “meaningless.”

    Nah this is just not true. A ninth passenger on the cruise died today, that is about 1.2% mortality rate and is by far the closest sample we have to any true mortality rate. When have nine passengers ever died on a cruise because of say a flu outbreak..? Never..nobody is over reacting to this, it is getting the reaction it that is needed


  • #6063
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    wakka12 wrote: »
    A woman in Algeria has died today, her brother also died of coronavirus on Monday.
    Awful. I think there's a family in the USA where 4 members have died from the coronavirus.


  • #6064
    maxpowers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭maxpowers


    Nermal wrote: »
    https://truepundit.com/stanford-professor-data-indicates-were-severely-overreacting-to-coronavirus/

    In an analysis published Tuesday, Stanford’s John P.A. Ioannidis — co-director of the university’s Meta-Research Innovation Center and professor of medicine, biomedical data science, statistics, and epidemiology and population health — suggests that the response to the coronavirus pandemic may be “a fiasco in the making” because we are making seismic decisions based on “utterly unreliable” data. The data we do have, Ioannidis explains, indicates that we are likely severely overreacting.
    ...
    Due to extremely limited testing, we are likely missing “the vast majority of infections” from COVID-19, he states, thus making reported fatality rates from the World Health Organization “meaningless.”

    The true mortality rate will be very low. The mortality rate figures are very misleading.


  • #6065
    bilston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,997 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    wakka12 wrote: »
    A woman in Algeria has died today, her brother also died of coronavirus on Monday.

    Africa has to be a concern.

    It's bad in Europe...and will get worse before.it hopefully gets better...but if this virus rips through Africa then they are in for a very tough time. And it will be worse for them because the developed world will be in a poor position to help them.


  • #6066
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Rockbeast2 wrote: »
    Let's start a Boards vigilante group to protect the streets.

    If we see a teenager wiping their nose with their hand...

    WE ATTACK

    If we see two teenagers standing in close proximity...

    WE ATTACK

    If we hear a teenager sniffle or cough out on the street...

    WE ATTACK

    There's a nation that needs to be protected here.

    Who's with me?

    I may consider it. If by attack you mean something like sniping from distance. I am too old for golf bat scenario.:D


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  • #6067
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Don't know the age but the CMO did confirm two days in a row now. No reports of underlying conditions.

    So yer wan on Twitter was full of BS


  • #6068
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    jackboy wrote: »
    Simon Coveney now encouraging us to confront young people in housing estates and street corners.

    Best of luck with that, I assume Simon doesn't live in an estate?


  • #6069
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Nah this is just not true. A ninth passenger on the cruise died today, that is about 1.2% mortality rate and is by far the closest sample we have to any true mortality rate

    Yeah. And what if a number of them die over the next few years due to being impaired by covid? How do you measure that?


  • #6070
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    maxpowers wrote: »
    The true mortality rate will be very low. The mortality rate figures are very misleading.

    1% under ideal hospital conditions, the cruise ship and South Korea
    Far higher when health systems collapse, Italy, Hubei, Iran, Spain...soon to be UK Netherlands Belgium Switzerland USA


  • #6071
    beolight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭beolight


    Shelly66 wrote: »
    Unfortunately it’s not lockdown and whilst people have lost their jobs to limit social interaction this is not going to stop till we are ordered to stay home . Needs to happen sooner rather than later .

    Agreed drove into Gullivers Retail Park Santry today car park was full people walking up in groups to the drive thru window ,construction workers having lunch everywhere in groups of 3 or 4 , teenage gangs wandering aimlessly around, kids on bikes zig zagging between people

    I didn’t bother getting out of car to see what Lidl was like can only guess just left


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  • #6072
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    So are all of the pubs. If you cant enjoy life without need of drinking alcohol for couple of days then good luck to you.

    I agree... pubs should be closed

    And most shops that don’t sell food as a necessity or requirement...

    Take Avoca....still open....


  • #6073
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    What’s the story with the 1.3x per day line this follows? If social distancing doesn’t actually work, and we do hit the estimated 15,000 cases by March 31st... if it keeps going beyond that it hits the entire population three weeks later, i.e. five weeks from now. Have I got my maths very wrong?


  • #6074
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Is it true that the government are contacting teachers to try and hire them to carry out contract tracing and general admin?
    This is to be a paid role. Even though they are already being paid as it is.


  • #6075
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,041 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    jackboy wrote: »
    Simon Coveney now encouraging us to confront young people in housing estates and street corners.

    That could be worse than the virus for some of us
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #6076
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    ziggyman17 wrote: »
    when are the Chinese going to called out on this.........Their eating habits need to be looked at........The World is going to **** because of their disgusting eating habits..............

    Not just what they eat, there was a video clip posted earlier on thread that looked at those markets and restaurants but also hygiene in general.
    There was a warning on the post, wish I had heeded it, stomach churning it was, public toilets that looked spotless from outside but were filthy open cesspits swarming with flies.
    If you were looking for the perfect breeding ground, look no further.


  • #6077
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Yeah. And what if a number of them die over the next few years due to being impaired by covid? How do you measure that?
    Then they'll die of whatever those conditions are and that's what will be measured.


  • #6078
    Ralphyroo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Ralphyroo


    Charles Babbage wrote: »
    Perhaps Meath ones are less crowded being in smaller towns?

    The ones in donegal were closed last Saturday


  • #6079
    Umpalumpa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭Umpalumpa


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    Is it the Clayton?

    Citywest Hotel to start in 2 weeks. 3 other local hotels approached


  • #6080
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    What’s the story with the 1.3x per day line this follows? If social distancing doesn’t actually work, and we do hit the estimated 15,000 cases by March 31st... if it keeps going beyond that it hits the entire population three weeks later, i.e. five weeks from now. Have I got my maths very wrong?

    Look at China. The whole population didn't get infected. Lock the place down and the virus will run its course. Majority will have mild symptoms and recover. Some will die.


  • #6081
    chicorytip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,343 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    NetChat101 wrote: »
    Are you for real???!!!! Technology will have to replace face to face meeting for the moment!!!! Small price to pay. Everyone is acutely aware of how this will affect everyone, not just teenagers, but there's no other choice - unless you're completely irresponsible and selfish.
    Not all of us - elderly rural people living alone, for example - have access to communications technology or, even if they do, may not be capable of using it effectively.


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  • #6082
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    Were there any new recoveries announced today? I haven't seen anything official... would appreciate a link if so thanks.


  • #6083
    Andrew00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    Lot of those young gardai sworn in look scared sh*tless

    Sure some of them are only a few weeks into their course haha


  • #6084
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    As Pope John Paul said

    Young people of Ireland.












    Stay da fcuk at home.


  • #6085
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    That could be worse than the virus for some of us

    Far more lethal in my opinion.


  • #6086
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    Is it true that the government are contacting teachers to try and hire them to carry out contract tracing and general admin?
    This is to be a paid role. Even though they are already being paid as it is.
    Teachers are still supposed to be working. I think those roles will come through that HSE job drive and reassignment of HSE/CS staff.


  • #6087
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    maxpowers wrote: »
    The true mortality rate will be very low. The mortality rate figures are very misleading.

    You can not make statement like this without waiting for the end. Nobody knows at this stage how long it will be around and what ther end numbers will look like. Also there is high probability that this while it will not kill person may leave him severely damaged.
    Everything is just a prediction or rather pure speculation.
    We are dealing with many unknowns and a lot of stuff we use for comparison sounds more like comparing apples with oranges type of stuff.


  • #6088
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    autumnbelle wrote: »
    12 in icu

    12 in ICU - that's some jump right there. It was 6 people in ICU a few days ago.


  • #6089
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,077 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Are those teenagers hanging in groups stupid?

    Yes, and their parents are worse.

    Myself and my wife were out for a walk this evening and the amount of young people not heeding the advice was quite astounding - young people seemingly couldn't give a fuck if their behavior perpetuates this crisis.

    When you contrast this behavior with the climate strikes - it really does make the latter rather hollow, just a day out.

    Young people seemingly are not that socially minded and are just as selfish as the rest of us. So selfish in fact that they put their social life ahead of their elderly granny.


  • #6090
    Heighway61
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,978 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    Seems that social distancing is being ignored by some, perhaps many. Goverment need to act on this urgently.


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  • #6091
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    That could be worse than the virus for some of us

    Absolutely. Anyone advocating confrontation (no matter what for) is irresponsible..

    Some nasty bastids out there would knife ya in a heartbeat for looking at them wrong..

    I am taking this virus seriously, but I ain’t risking a hiding, or worse, for it..

    Very irresponsible of anyone advocating this.


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