CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

tscul32 · 20-03-2020 05:01PM

Just drove Portmarnock to Malahide, barely a free parking space the whole way. So many people out walking on the beach. But with the coastal wind someone 10 metres from you could sneeze uncovered and you could easily be hit in the face! Then at my sister in law's there was a group of kids (oldest about 7) out playing, not all siblings either. I was only out on grocery drop duty but couldn't believe the amount of groups out and about.

Sierra Oscar · 20-03-2020 05:01PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Wonder is wuhan back to normal yet. as in people going to shops etc.

Restrictions across Hubei province are being relaxed but entry and exit to Wuhan is still restricted, as is entry to the province as a whole. It's definitely not back to normal yet.

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 05:01PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Think that's right. Here's a dashboard from Robert kock institute (federal body responsible). You don't need to be German to figure it out.

While detailed at a geographic level they do not appear to be collecting/sharing that info at the moment.

Source?
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4/page/page_1/

Yes the recovered number has also barely budged. Youd be expecting several hundred a day to be recovering in Germany with such large numbers
Only 1% recovered in Germany vs 10% recovered in Spain, France, Italy. Germany are not publicly divulging much information in general about what is going on there.

jmayo · 20-03-2020 05:04PM

interlocked wrote: »

Over a thousand people have signed this petition, not requesting, but "demanding" that the Leinster Schools Rugby competition be completed.

https://www.change.org/p/irish-rugby-football-union-have-leinster-schools-cup-finals-played

Paul Howard must be banging his head off his laptop, the art of satire is dead:rolleyes:

Ah yes the well heeled knobends mainly from leafy suburbs of South County Dublin.
The same ar**es that think "your father works for my father" is actually funny.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Everyone out and about today, every where looks busy. All the industrial retails premises are open, life goes on. Gangs of teenagers out and about, summer holidays have come early.
We're doing a little, but hardly enough. The '' dumb'' part of society will force a lockdown, as it's the only way those dumbasses will distance themselves from others.

Sadly it is not a virus that targets the morons and sadly we don't live in ancient times where morons were removed through natural selection.

tikkahunter wrote: »

I think that generation need to find out what it’s like to actually get a slap for not doing what your told .

There is a lot to be said for swift old fashioned justice dispensed with a baton.

It's at times like these I really see the benefits of a Singapore style of justice.

As some have said this is akin to war and wartime means you fooking toe the line or else.

Cork Boy 53 · 20-03-2020 05:05PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

If it's not people will be convinced that social distancing is working and we're out of the woods.... I know, I know..

We need shockingly high numbers to fully ram the magnitude of this into the national psyche.

Even a high number of positive cases will not convince those who still think it is a minor illness. As harsh as it may seem it will take death rates to hugely increase before it finally sinks in.

plodder · 20-03-2020 05:05PM

Antares35 wrote: »

Surely if you are out and about with someone you live with already then the social distancing does not come into play there. It's when you come upon other people that you would not otherwise have met. Why would you stay 2M away from someone because you are outdoors with them, if you share living accommodation?

So, OH and I are isolating at the moment. We don't social distance because we are living together but anyone outside of that we do...

Of course, but my OH and daughters were out walking yesterday and they got a bit of abuse from a passing motorist who obviously thought they should be walking further apart.

Some people seem to be interpreting it as 2 metres from every other person. The advice above is not clear enough.

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 05:05PM

In other news 88% of people in China who contracted coronavirus are now healthy again and virus free.

trapp · 20-03-2020 05:06PM

Are people actually that stupid to be still looking at number of confirmed cases as a completely negative thing.

The advice from the WHO is to test, test, test.

The more tests carried out will lead to an increase in cases.

Most important is reducing the amount of vulnerable and at risk people getting the virus and therefore reducing the hospital and icu care needed and therefore reducing the deaths.

300 positive cases where only 30 require hospital treatment would be better than 250 where 70 require hospital treatment.

Obviously long term we want the numbers to go down but that data trends like that can only be assessed over a longer period than day to day.

Amazing sometimes the absolute lack of intelligence and basic cop on in some people.

mick987 · 20-03-2020 05:06PM

wakka12 wrote: »

It will be bad but why worse than Lombardy?

London is going to get hammered, millions of people in such a small area. Don't think it matters what the government do thousands will die. The UK government best case estimate is for between 2000 - 3000 dead according to the CSO

jmayo · 20-03-2020 05:06PM

wakka12 wrote: »

In other news 88% of people in China who contracted coronavirus are now healthy again and virus free.

Do we really trust the Chinese pronouncements ?

Timberrrrrrrr · 20-03-2020 05:07PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

They clearly feel they can implement social distancing and it's not hard given the size of a track. Its literally jockeys and trainer that's it, along with starter and a handful of officials

Jockeys aren't even in the same dressing room as each other.

And how many of them were at Cheltenham recently?

walshb · 20-03-2020 05:07PM

If we have clear increases today and the next few days, can we expect a public type announcement as regards more measures, other than those in place, and other than those that are being brought in via the emergency bill from yesterday.

skellig_rocks · 20-03-2020 05:07PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Wonder is wuhan back to normal yet. as in people going to shops etc.

I think there are still some restrictions in Wuhan, most of the restrictions are removed in the rest of China.

This is a tweet from a lecturer in Beijing describing the current situation in Beijing:

https://twitter.com/michaelxpettis/status/1240598009588539392

BTW his financial tweets are very informative.

statesaver · 20-03-2020 05:07PM

Watching BBC news. The UK are allowing children of front-line staff - NHS, police, food production workers etc, etc to attend school. It would be very easy to do social distancing as there would be feck all children in the school.

Could / should Ireland do similar to easy the stress on these essential works ?

Doesn't look like a bad idea to me, but i know fuk all.

Doctors room ghost · 20-03-2020 05:08PM

dummy_crusher wrote: »

If you've read it somewhere, isn't it very simple to copy the link and paste it in your comment?

You've then backed up your statement and saved anyone else the effort of verifying what you said.

If you dislike being asked for a source so much, why not save yourself the irritation in the first place?

Nobody asked me for a source.im just fcukin sick reading it.source and linky.the crutch of the chronically lazy.

TTLF · 20-03-2020 05:09PM

sideswipe wrote: »

I hope you see the irony of complaining about people being out for a walk because you are out for a walk.

Yeah fair enough I suppose I was. Although I think I was trying to highlight the issue that, a LOT of people were out walking in big groups talking to friends etc, I was just with my siblings and we made sure to stay 2M away, crossing roads etc when we could.

political analyst · 20-03-2020 05:09PM

There have been calls for a lockdown here in the Republic. But don't we already have a de facto lockdown anyway?! Schools, cinemas, restaurants, pubs and most cafés are closed.

Furthermore, if Person A was in a pub in Temple Bar last Saturday night and stopped to talk afterwards to Person B, who wasn't in a pub at all, could Person B have reduced the risk of being infected by having a warm shower afterwards?

jmayo · 20-03-2020 05:09PM

statesaver wrote: »

Watching BBC news. The UK are allowing children of front-line staff - NHS, police, food production workers etc, etc to attend school. It would be very easy to do social distancing as there would be feck all children in the school.

Could / should Ireland do similar to easy the stress on these essential works ?

Doesn't look like a bad idea to me, but i know fuk all.

Yeah sure what could possibly go wrong?

I mean if one kid in the class has it they could take out an entire group of front line staff in one go.

Tacitus Kilgore · 20-03-2020 05:10PM

trapp wrote: »

Are people actually that stupid to be still looking at number of confirmed cases as a completely negative thing.

The advice from the WHO is to test, test, test.

The more tests carried out will lead to an increase in cases.

Most important is reducing the amount of vulnerable and at risk people getting the virus and therefore reducing the hospital and icu care needed and therefore reducing the deaths.

300 positive cases where only 30 require hospital treatment would be better than 250 where 70 require hospital treatment.

Obviously long term we want the numbers to go down but that data trends like that can only be assessed over a longer period than day to day.

Amazing sometimes the absolute lack of intelligence and basic cop on in some people.

The man on the street is of the opinion that whatever today's number is that of how many people currently have covid19, they just don't understand - that's why social distancing only works on those who will think about and look into what it actually means.

People need to be told straight out in no uncertain terms - NOT to visit anyone, NOT to let kids out, NOT to touch stuff in shops unless they're buying it. etc. until then people will swan around 'cos the government says it's grand (even though that's not what it says)

trapp · 20-03-2020 05:11PM

walshb wrote: »

If we have clear increases today and the next few days, can we expect a public type announcement as regards more measures, other than those in place, and other than those that are being brought in via the emergency bill from yesterday.

We expect increases as we have increased testing.

They don't just make it up as they go along.

Try and have even a tiny bit of cop on.

bodhrandude · 20-03-2020 05:11PM

All these party poopers on the rage at the moment need to see this from Bergamo, I don't know if its been posted already but here it is again.

bekker · 20-03-2020 05:11PM

Pompeo, avoid dubious social media reports ... 'not true that 'China virus' emanated from US Army facility', trust only reliable sources!
US Gov COVID-19 briefing - earlier.

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 05:11PM

walshb wrote: »

If we have clear increases today and the next few days, can we expect a public type announcement as regards more measures, other than those in place, and other than those that are being brought in via the emergency bill from yesterday.

Not until they get to the end of the month, then they'll review.

Blanco100 · 20-03-2020 05:11PM

trapp wrote: »

Are people actually that stupid to be still looking at number of confirmed cases as a completely negative thing.

The advice from the WHO is to test, test, test.

The more tests carried out will lead to an increase in cases.

Most important is reducing the amount of vulnerable and at risk people getting the virus and therefore reducing the hospital and icu care needed and therefore reducing the deaths.

300 positive cases where only 30 require hospital treatment would be better than 250 where 70 require hospital treatment.

Obviously long term we want the numbers to go down but that data trends like that can only be assessed over a longer period than day to day.

Amazing sometimes the absolute lack of intelligence and basic cop on in some people.

Thats a simplistic view though. More positive tests obviously means more ability to stop this person spreading, but doesn't answer the question as to how long this person has had it, who they passed it onto etc...

The more positive tests, the more possibility that others will catch it etc... Don't think theres as much positive spin as suggested.

MipMap · 20-03-2020 05:12PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

If you missed it listen to this Doctor on why we should stay indoors and treat each other like pariahs. Remember she is going to have to deal with the sick and dying.

https://twitter.com/RTE_PrimeTime/status/1240767106955821059?s=20

This was really sobering.

RTE News should show this every day.

Jinglejangle69 · 20-03-2020 05:12PM

tscul32 wrote: »

Just drove Portmarnock to Malahide, barely a free parking space the whole way. So many people out walking on the beach. But with the coastal wind someone 10 metres from you could sneeze uncovered and you could easily be hit in the face! Then at my sister in law's there was a group of kids (oldest about 7) out playing, not all siblings either. I was only out on grocery drop duty but couldn't believe the amount of groups out and about.

As Simon Coveney said earlier we will look back in 6 weeks to this week and say we should have all done more.

These morons acting like this today are causing untold damage.

Mervyn Skidmore · 20-03-2020 05:13PM

wakka12 wrote: »

In other news 88% of people in China who contracted coronavirus are now healthy again and virus free.

People can come up with statistics to prove anything, 40% of all people know that.

1800_Ladladlad · 20-03-2020 05:13PM

I haven't been keeping up with this thread in the past 24 hours as its gone to the dogs, sorry if this has been posted,

https://twitter.com/Buailtin/status/1240944703853539328

bilston · 20-03-2020 05:13PM

Critical incident declared at a London hospital this afternoon as it has reached maximum capacity.

This is the beginning of it in London.

stephenjmcd · 20-03-2020 05:13PM

Worthwhile listening to this, a number of his travel group tested positive and none showed any symptoms while in isolation. 7 days in the mater and 7 at home.

An excellent interview and insight

https://www.eastcoast.fm/podcasts2/podcasts/the-morning-show/episode/wicklow-man-tells-east-coast-fms-morning-show-about-his-experience-after-recovering-from-covid-19/

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP