CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Cork Boy 53 · 20-03-2020 04:56PM

walshb wrote: »

Is more than 191 increase today a real possibility?

It probably will be far higher than that.

Antares35 · 20-03-2020 04:57PM

plodder wrote: »

That could be clearer. What are groups exactly? Family groups (yes presumably), groups of friends who meet for a walk (no I would think), random people who don't know each other (no) ...

Are individuals within a group supposed to stay 2 metres apart or not?

There's no room for ambiguity here if they expect people to heed their advice.

Surely if you are out and about with someone you live with already then the social distancing does not come into play there. It's when you come upon other people that you would not otherwise have met. Why would you stay 2M away from someone because you are outdoors with them, if you share living accommodation?

So, OH and I are isolating at the moment. We don't social distance because we are living together but anyone outside of that we do...

ChikiChiki · 20-03-2020 04:57PM

tikkahunter wrote: »

I think that generation need to find out what it’s like to actually get a slap for not doing what your told .

Can only shout at them from a safe distance unless we could acquire one of the springy punching gloves with a reach of 2mtrs.

caveat emptor · 20-03-2020 04:57PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Germany must not publish how many are in a serious/critical conditions. Over a dozen have died over the last 48 hours but still says 2 in serious condition for several days now, despite many thousands of new cases

Think that's right. Here's a dashboard from Robert kock institute (federal body responsible). You don't need to be German to figure it out.

While detailed at a geographic level they do not appear to be collecting/sharing that info at the moment.

Source?
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4/page/page_1/

bilston · 20-03-2020 04:58PM

Another 40 deaths in the UK in the last 24, up to 184. That's the same number as the previous 24 hours so at least the daily number hasn't increased.

I think we are all nervously awaiting Italy's update at 5pm.

Tacitus Kilgore · 20-03-2020 04:58PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

It probably will be far higher than that.

If it's not people will be convinced that social distancing is working and we're out of the woods.... I know, I know..

We need shockingly high numbers to fully ram the magnitude of this into the national psyche.

maebee · 20-03-2020 04:58PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I was in Aldi Yesterday.

They opened a other checkout.

WTF ! 😀

tobefrank321 · 20-03-2020 04:58PM

walshb wrote: »

Is more than 191 increase today a real possibility?

Yes.

And we are well on track for 15,000 confirmed cases by month end. The real number will probably be a multiple of that.

threeball · 20-03-2020 04:58PM

Blaze420 wrote: »

I'd be very surprised if we are not in the mid-high 200 range today,maybe even higher.

Seen as we're testing more I'd say higher. Cases is not the issue, because even if its 500 theres multiples of that that haven't been found or tested.

ICU patients and deaths is where its at.

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 04:58PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Id expect large numbers for the next week and then for it to start to lessen ,
There has been in huge amount of tests done in the last 5 days that will start to get results now , So there will be a surge of new confirmed cases but they won't be actually new cases,

Id imagine by the 29 or 30th we will see the signs of closers and people being careful kicking in to the actually numbers ,,

We wont get the same huge drop countries like South korea got as most irish people are still working, many are using public transport, particularly young people a large number are still socialising and will spread to some families who will then all get infected, many places of leisure like cafes and resturants are still open and plenty still use them. The exponetial growth will definitely stop with all the hand washing and school closures and pubs and large gatherings gone but Ireland will maintain a high level of growth for a very long time.

Quin_Dub · 20-03-2020 04:59PM

walshb wrote: »

Is more than 191 increase today a real possibility?

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Very real. I wouldn't be surprised if its over 300.

Without question..

If we get to the 15k/day testing level , given that so far we have seen a roughly 3% positive test rate then that's ~450/day new cases.

BUT - The key figures are the number of people hospitalised etc.

Having thousands of people with confirmed infection is not altogether terrible if we can keep control over the hospitalisation rates.

Some good info here on the details behind the numbers.

And , encouragingly it would seem that we have already doubled the number of ICU beds in the country over the last few days/weeks

It is encouraging that just six patients, or 2 per cent, have required intensive care so far. Translating this figure on to the forecast of 15,000 cases would mean a requirement for 300 intensive care beds by the end of the month.

At the start of this year, Ireland had about 250 such beds; we have about double this number by now as a result of measures taken to tackle the pandemic. That still leaves a shortfall, but not one that couldn’t be bridged with some more supplies and imaginative thinking – and more staff.

Dr. Bre · 20-03-2020 04:59PM

Wonder is wuhan back to normal yet. as in people going to shops etc.

tscul32 · 20-03-2020 05:01PM

Just drove Portmarnock to Malahide, barely a free parking space the whole way. So many people out walking on the beach. But with the coastal wind someone 10 metres from you could sneeze uncovered and you could easily be hit in the face! Then at my sister in law's there was a group of kids (oldest about 7) out playing, not all siblings either. I was only out on grocery drop duty but couldn't believe the amount of groups out and about.

Sierra Oscar · 20-03-2020 05:01PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Wonder is wuhan back to normal yet. as in people going to shops etc.

Restrictions across Hubei province are being relaxed but entry and exit to Wuhan is still restricted, as is entry to the province as a whole. It's definitely not back to normal yet.

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 05:01PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Think that's right. Here's a dashboard from Robert kock institute (federal body responsible). You don't need to be German to figure it out.

While detailed at a geographic level they do not appear to be collecting/sharing that info at the moment.

Source?
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4/page/page_1/

Yes the recovered number has also barely budged. Youd be expecting several hundred a day to be recovering in Germany with such large numbers
Only 1% recovered in Germany vs 10% recovered in Spain, France, Italy. Germany are not publicly divulging much information in general about what is going on there.

jmayo · 20-03-2020 05:04PM

interlocked wrote: »

Over a thousand people have signed this petition, not requesting, but "demanding" that the Leinster Schools Rugby competition be completed.

https://www.change.org/p/irish-rugby-football-union-have-leinster-schools-cup-finals-played

Paul Howard must be banging his head off his laptop, the art of satire is dead:rolleyes:

Ah yes the well heeled knobends mainly from leafy suburbs of South County Dublin.
The same ar**es that think "your father works for my father" is actually funny.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Everyone out and about today, every where looks busy. All the industrial retails premises are open, life goes on. Gangs of teenagers out and about, summer holidays have come early.
We're doing a little, but hardly enough. The '' dumb'' part of society will force a lockdown, as it's the only way those dumbasses will distance themselves from others.

Sadly it is not a virus that targets the morons and sadly we don't live in ancient times where morons were removed through natural selection.

tikkahunter wrote: »

I think that generation need to find out what it’s like to actually get a slap for not doing what your told .

There is a lot to be said for swift old fashioned justice dispensed with a baton.

It's at times like these I really see the benefits of a Singapore style of justice.

As some have said this is akin to war and wartime means you fooking toe the line or else.

Cork Boy 53 · 20-03-2020 05:05PM

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

If it's not people will be convinced that social distancing is working and we're out of the woods.... I know, I know..

We need shockingly high numbers to fully ram the magnitude of this into the national psyche.

Even a high number of positive cases will not convince those who still think it is a minor illness. As harsh as it may seem it will take death rates to hugely increase before it finally sinks in.

plodder · 20-03-2020 05:05PM

Antares35 wrote: »

Surely if you are out and about with someone you live with already then the social distancing does not come into play there. It's when you come upon other people that you would not otherwise have met. Why would you stay 2M away from someone because you are outdoors with them, if you share living accommodation?

So, OH and I are isolating at the moment. We don't social distance because we are living together but anyone outside of that we do...

Of course, but my OH and daughters were out walking yesterday and they got a bit of abuse from a passing motorist who obviously thought they should be walking further apart.

Some people seem to be interpreting it as 2 metres from every other person. The advice above is not clear enough.

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 05:05PM

In other news 88% of people in China who contracted coronavirus are now healthy again and virus free.

trapp · 20-03-2020 05:06PM

Are people actually that stupid to be still looking at number of confirmed cases as a completely negative thing.

The advice from the WHO is to test, test, test.

The more tests carried out will lead to an increase in cases.

Most important is reducing the amount of vulnerable and at risk people getting the virus and therefore reducing the hospital and icu care needed and therefore reducing the deaths.

300 positive cases where only 30 require hospital treatment would be better than 250 where 70 require hospital treatment.

Obviously long term we want the numbers to go down but that data trends like that can only be assessed over a longer period than day to day.

Amazing sometimes the absolute lack of intelligence and basic cop on in some people.

mick987 · 20-03-2020 05:06PM

wakka12 wrote: »

It will be bad but why worse than Lombardy?

London is going to get hammered, millions of people in such a small area. Don't think it matters what the government do thousands will die. The UK government best case estimate is for between 2000 - 3000 dead according to the CSO

jmayo · 20-03-2020 05:06PM

wakka12 wrote: »

In other news 88% of people in China who contracted coronavirus are now healthy again and virus free.

Do we really trust the Chinese pronouncements ?

Timberrrrrrrr · 20-03-2020 05:07PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

They clearly feel they can implement social distancing and it's not hard given the size of a track. Its literally jockeys and trainer that's it, along with starter and a handful of officials

Jockeys aren't even in the same dressing room as each other.

And how many of them were at Cheltenham recently?

walshb · 20-03-2020 05:07PM

If we have clear increases today and the next few days, can we expect a public type announcement as regards more measures, other than those in place, and other than those that are being brought in via the emergency bill from yesterday.

skellig_rocks · 20-03-2020 05:07PM

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Wonder is wuhan back to normal yet. as in people going to shops etc.

I think there are still some restrictions in Wuhan, most of the restrictions are removed in the rest of China.

This is a tweet from a lecturer in Beijing describing the current situation in Beijing:

https://twitter.com/michaelxpettis/status/1240598009588539392

BTW his financial tweets are very informative.

statesaver · 20-03-2020 05:07PM

Watching BBC news. The UK are allowing children of front-line staff - NHS, police, food production workers etc, etc to attend school. It would be very easy to do social distancing as there would be feck all children in the school.

Could / should Ireland do similar to easy the stress on these essential works ?

Doesn't look like a bad idea to me, but i know fuk all.

Doctors room ghost · 20-03-2020 05:08PM

dummy_crusher wrote: »

If you've read it somewhere, isn't it very simple to copy the link and paste it in your comment?

You've then backed up your statement and saved anyone else the effort of verifying what you said.

If you dislike being asked for a source so much, why not save yourself the irritation in the first place?

Nobody asked me for a source.im just fcukin sick reading it.source and linky.the crutch of the chronically lazy.

TTLF · 20-03-2020 05:09PM

sideswipe wrote: »

I hope you see the irony of complaining about people being out for a walk because you are out for a walk.

Yeah fair enough I suppose I was. Although I think I was trying to highlight the issue that, a LOT of people were out walking in big groups talking to friends etc, I was just with my siblings and we made sure to stay 2M away, crossing roads etc when we could.

political analyst · 20-03-2020 05:09PM

There have been calls for a lockdown here in the Republic. But don't we already have a de facto lockdown anyway?! Schools, cinemas, restaurants, pubs and most cafés are closed.

Furthermore, if Person A was in a pub in Temple Bar last Saturday night and stopped to talk afterwards to Person B, who wasn't in a pub at all, could Person B have reduced the risk of being infected by having a warm shower afterwards?

jmayo · 20-03-2020 05:09PM

statesaver wrote: »

Watching BBC news. The UK are allowing children of front-line staff - NHS, police, food production workers etc, etc to attend school. It would be very easy to do social distancing as there would be feck all children in the school.

Could / should Ireland do similar to easy the stress on these essential works ?

Doesn't look like a bad idea to me, but i know fuk all.

Yeah sure what could possibly go wrong?

I mean if one kid in the class has it they could take out an entire group of front line staff in one go.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP