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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭markfinn


    Dcully wrote: »
    - People cramming into Shops
    - Teens Spitting on shopping trolleys

    Show these people the latest report on sky news from Italy and they would change their tune fairly rapidly as its pretty grim.

    I really don't think they would.
    You could be showing them the same scenes in Dublin and they still wouldn't care, because it wasn't them personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    This game of tag the kids are playing , where they shout covid 19 when tagged is a dangerous disgrace
    Modern day ring a ring of roses ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Do you have a link to this?

    I linked one of them? You can search for more and theres a lot of articles on it.

    Snippet:
    Their study, which has been published in the New England Journal of Medicine, shows that the virus could survive in droplets for up to three hours after being coughed out into the air. Fine droplets between 1-5 micrometres in size – about 30 times small than the width of a human hair – can remain airborne for several hours in still air.

    So while its not 'airborne' it can linger in the water droplets in the air which can float around for hours.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I enjoy how Irish people who have no history whatsoever of wearing masks know better than Asians who wear them routinely either when they're sick or for air pollution, and have history in dealing with the last Coronavirus.

    Asian governments aren't making it law to wear one and just for the craic. I didn't wear one the last time I was sick just for the craic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Read it properly, article about Korea is for people voting only.

    Is it not more dangerous to be holding elections?

    Yes because Korea is in a semi lock down, but they are allowing people to come out and vote but only if they wear a mask


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    murpho999 wrote: »
    THe virus is not airborne. How can it float for 3 hours.

    No country anywhere is advising the general public to wear facemasks if not affected and I've looked a good few countries offical health advice and the WHO.

    Wearing masks and gloves does not achieve anything and is not necessary.

    I feel bad for people who swallow half truths willingly and regurgitate them with such certainty.



    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-covid-19-how-long-does-the-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces

    TLDR Wake up:
    Their study, which has been published in the New England Journal of Medicine, shows that the virus could survive in droplets for up to three hours after being coughed out into the air.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.09.20033217v1.full.pdf

    Centre for Disease Control

    https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/aerosols/pdfs/Aerosol_101.pdf

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    What about the air in a shop or other indoor environment.
    I'd rather be overly cautious than roll the dice on your assumption that it's safe. Evidence to date says this stuff can float about for some time in the right conditions. Not to mention the muck savages that cough openly wherever they go.

    So how do you stop it going into your eyes or ears then. Should wear swimming goggles, ear defenders and butt plugs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    This game of tag the kids are playing , where they shout covid 19 when tagged is a dangerous disgrace

    It has been played for over 100 years in a slightly different form


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Modern day ring a ring of roses ...

    ring a roses is more of a warning passed on thru the generAtions, covid tag is not, it's shameful!

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I linked one of them? You can search for more and theres a lot of articles on it.

    Snippet:
    Their study, which has been published in the New England Journal of Medicine, shows that the virus could survive in droplets for up to three hours after being coughed out into the air. Fine droplets between 1-5 micrometres in size – about 30 times small than the width of a human hair – can remain airborne for several hours in still air.

    So it's could not does and it needs someone to cough first.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,141 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I'm surely not the only person that didn't find that footage inside an Italian hospital last night THAT scary.

    Going by previous comments, I was expecting masses of patients taking up every inch of available room and dead bodies being carried out. Instead, it looked quite orderly all things considered, and there even appeared to be less people on trolleys than during our hospital crisis at the end of last year.

    That isn't me downplaying the virus by the way, only being a bit 'meh' by the video.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ring a roses is more of a warning passed on thru the generAtions, covid tag is not, it's shameful!
    Devil fare!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    I enjoy how Irish people who have no history whatsoever of wearing masks know better than Asians who wear them routinely either when they're sick or for air pollution, and have history in dealing with the last Coronavirus.

    Asian governments aren't making it law to wear one and just for the craic. I didn't wear one the last time I was sick just for the craic.

    I feel like a lot of people are saying they are useless because they were not able to buy any. So now they spout out that they are useless to make themselves feel better


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    a 'one-shop-a-week' enforcement policy.

    Might be unenforceable but that doesn't mean the policy itself is stupid...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,824 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Would it not have been far more effective to completely lock down the elderly and at risk and let everyone else work their way through this?

    Unfortunately mindless-hysteria has trumped sensible solutions.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    murpho999, if it's not airborne, how does it get on surfaces? Our sweat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    is_that_so wrote: »
    So it's could not does and it needs someone to cough first.

    Yeah but i was replying to the poster who said it doesn't linger at all which also, could be untrue. It's too new to know exactly how it works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    murpho999, if it's not airborne, how does it get on surfaces? Our sweat?

    People are coughing or sneezing it on to them.

    Or touching surfaces with their hands that they have coughed or sneezed on.

    That's why hand hygiene and distancing is important. Not masks and gloves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    is_that_so wrote: »
    So it's could not does and it needs someone to cough first.

    Just the possibility is terrifying when you know how many people are pigs who can't cover their mouth when coughing, even right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Old enough to not obsess about what politicians did or in this case didnt say.
    Yet, not wise enough to let stupid things go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,824 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Might be unenforceable but that doesn't mean the policy itself is stupid...

    Any policy that is unenforceable is stupid by definition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭OneEightSeven


    greenpilot wrote: »
    "People are dying who have never died before."

    Donald Trump.
    It's a false quote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-quote-never-died-before/?collection-id=241602


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Would it not have been far more effective to completely lock down the elderly and at risk and let everyone else work their way through this?

    I dont think you comprehend how large a part of the population this is.

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/cspd/icp/chronic-disease/
    1 million Irish people have at least one Chronic illness. Only 2/3 of this group are over 65, so there are about 330,000 'younger' Irish people who are at risk.

    And then all people over 65.Nearly 15% of Irish people are over 65.
    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp3oy/cp3/agr/

    Then very young kids kids, smokers and pregnant women too, all at risk too.

    Youre talking about locking down at least 1/4 irish people indefinitely. This is why the world is taking it so seriously, because the 'at risk'group is actually the majority of the population in some countries like America which has very high obesity rates, Italy which has a very old population, and developing countries with very poor healthcare and high levels of malnutrition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    Just the possibility is terrifying when you know how many people are pigs who can't cover their mouth when coughing, even right now.
    Most people I see at present are normal with none of that. I also hope most of us don't terrify too easily.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    murpho999 wrote: »
    People are coughing or sneezing it on to them.

    Or touching surfaces with their hands that they have coughed or sneezed on.

    That's why hand hygiene and distancing is important. Not masks and gloves.

    You're just looking at from the angle of getting it. We're talking about spreading it.

    I'm about to sneeze at you from a metre away. You have a choice between me wearing a mask or not wearing a mask. Which do you pick and why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    This game of tag the kids are playing , where they shout covid 19 when tagged is a dangerous disgrace

    :)

    Haven't seen that, but curious given the origin of ring-a-ring-a-rosey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭kevcos


    deisedevil wrote: »
    Complete and utter shíte!

    Which part is sh!te?

    Clearly a shutdown will afford breathing space and will be effective in the short term but it comes at a massive economic cost the consequence of which are unknown.

    When the phrase Economic Cost is mentioned a lot of people think this means that there will be temporary month long lay-offs and they may have to cancel this years summer holiday but everything will be back to normal by Christmas.

    The remedy being worse than the disease is an outcome that must be considered, a terrible scenario to imagine in the face of the vulnerable, elderly and those in the high risk category.

    I assume this entire outbreak stemmed from one single person infecting another?
    We now have hundred of thousands infected. There is no controlling this virus, we have to learn to live with it and soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,015 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Unfortunately mindless-hysteria has trumped sensible solutions.

    Edgelords always got the "sensible solutions"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Fake news should always be called out do you not think ?
    I'm happy not caring what Trump says most of the time but each to their own.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    murpho999 wrote: »
    So how do you stop it going into your eyes or ears then. Should wear swimming goggles, ear defenders and butt plugs?

    There's this thing called science. People do experiments, they write down the results. They share them. If it is proven and replicated we trust it. People learn stuff and we improve as a whole.

    You should check it out. Google science.


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