CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

RugbyLad11 · 20-03-2020 02:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I enjoy how Irish people who have no history whatsoever of wearing masks know better than Asians who wear them routinely either when they're sick or for air pollution, and have history in dealing with the last Coronavirus.

Asian governments aren't making it law to wear one and just for the craic. I didn't wear one the last time I was sick just for the craic.

I feel like a lot of people are saying they are useless because they were not able to buy any. So now they spout out that they are useless to make themselves feel better

Loafing Oaf · 20-03-2020 02:07PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

a 'one-shop-a-week' enforcement policy.

Might be unenforceable but that doesn't mean the policy itself is stupid...

facehugger99 · 20-03-2020 02:08PM

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Would it not have been far more effective to completely lock down the elderly and at risk and let everyone else work their way through this?

Unfortunately mindless-hysteria has trumped sensible solutions.

20-03-2020 02:08PM

murpho999, if it's not airborne, how does it get on surfaces? Our sweat?

SleetAndSnow · 20-03-2020 02:08PM

is_that_so wrote: »

So it's could not does and it needs someone to cough first.

Yeah but i was replying to the poster who said it doesn't linger at all which also, could be untrue. It's too new to know exactly how it works.

murpho999 · 20-03-2020 02:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

murpho999, if it's not airborne, how does it get on surfaces? Our sweat?

People are coughing or sneezing it on to them.

Or touching surfaces with their hands that they have coughed or sneezed on.

That's why hand hygiene and distancing is important. Not masks and gloves.

Mwengwe · 20-03-2020 02:09PM

is_that_so wrote: »

So it's could not does and it needs someone to cough first.

Just the possibility is terrifying when you know how many people are pigs who can't cover their mouth when coughing, even right now.

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 02:09PM

Doctor Shipman wrote: »

Old enough to not obsess about what politicians did or in this case didnt say.

Yet, not wise enough to let stupid things go.

facehugger99 · 20-03-2020 02:09PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Might be unenforceable but that doesn't mean the policy itself is stupid...

Any policy that is unenforceable is stupid by definition.

OneEightSeven · 20-03-2020 02:09PM

greenpilot wrote: »

"People are dying who have never died before."

Donald Trump.

It's a false quote: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-quote-never-died-before/?collection-id=241602

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 02:10PM

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Would it not have been far more effective to completely lock down the elderly and at risk and let everyone else work their way through this?

I dont think you comprehend how large a part of the population this is.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/cspd/icp/chronic-disease/
1 million Irish people have at least one Chronic illness. Only 2/3 of this group are over 65, so there are about 330,000 'younger' Irish people who are at risk.

And then all people over 65.Nearly 15% of Irish people are over 65.
https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp3oy/cp3/agr/

Then very young kids kids, smokers and pregnant women too, all at risk too.

Youre talking about locking down at least 1/4 irish people indefinitely. This is why the world is taking it so seriously, because the 'at risk'group is actually the majority of the population in some countries like America which has very high obesity rates, Italy which has a very old population, and developing countries with very poor healthcare and high levels of malnutrition.

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 02:10PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

Just the possibility is terrifying when you know how many people are pigs who can't cover their mouth when coughing, even right now.

Most people I see at present are normal with none of that. I also hope most of us don't terrify too easily.

20-03-2020 02:11PM

murpho999 wrote: »

People are coughing or sneezing it on to them.

Or touching surfaces with their hands that they have coughed or sneezed on.

That's why hand hygiene and distancing is important. Not masks and gloves.

You're just looking at from the angle of getting it. We're talking about spreading it.

I'm about to sneeze at you from a metre away. You have a choice between me wearing a mask or not wearing a mask. Which do you pick and why?

gabeeg · 20-03-2020 02:11PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

This game of tag the kids are playing , where they shout covid 19 when tagged is a dangerous disgrace

Haven't seen that, but curious given the origin of ring-a-ring-a-rosey

kevcos · 20-03-2020 02:12PM

deisedevil wrote: »

Complete and utter shíte!

Which part is sh!te?

Clearly a shutdown will afford breathing space and will be effective in the short term but it comes at a massive economic cost the consequence of which are unknown.

When the phrase Economic Cost is mentioned a lot of people think this means that there will be temporary month long lay-offs and they may have to cancel this years summer holiday but everything will be back to normal by Christmas.

The remedy being worse than the disease is an outcome that must be considered, a terrible scenario to imagine in the face of the vulnerable, elderly and those in the high risk category.

I assume this entire outbreak stemmed from one single person infecting another?
We now have hundred of thousands infected. There is no controlling this virus, we have to learn to live with it and soon.

pjohnson · 20-03-2020 02:12PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Unfortunately mindless-hysteria has trumped sensible solutions.

Edgelords always got the "sensible solutions"

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 02:12PM

Doctor Shipman wrote: »

Fake news should always be called out do you not think ?

I'm happy not caring what Trump says most of the time but each to their own.

caveat emptor · 20-03-2020 02:12PM

murpho999 wrote: »

So how do you stop it going into your eyes or ears then. Should wear swimming goggles, ear defenders and butt plugs?

There's this thing called science. People do experiments, they write down the results. They share them. If it is proven and replicated we trust it. People learn stuff and we improve as a whole.

You should check it out. Google science.

deathbomber · 20-03-2020 02:12PM

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Would it not have been far more effective to completely lock down the elderly and at risk and let everyone else work their way through this?

just to clarify, young people can also get a bad viral infection from it and require ICU treatment such as ventilators etc, if we let it burn through, the capacity of the hospitals will be reached, 5/1 chance you will be hit hard, personally i don't fancy the odds

TheCitizen · 20-03-2020 02:13PM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

The virus is a minor illness for the vast majority of people. No worse than a sniffle for most. Great to see people out and about on a fine day instead of being consumed with fear. The hardcore extravaganza of panic and economic suicide will create more damage to people's health and wellbeing than the virus itself.

Don't tell this eejit is still here talking utter crap

Hobgoblin11 · 20-03-2020 02:14PM

gabeeg wrote: »

Haven't seen that, but curious given the origin of ring-a-ring-a-rosey

the worst part is they Playing outside pharmacies and tagging elderly people leaving the pharmacy

signostic · 20-03-2020 02:14PM

Filling stations could be a way of spreading the virus, if you are filling up your car please use rubber gloves, every filling station should have them available to customers.

stephenjmcd · 20-03-2020 02:15PM

murpho999 wrote: »

Read it properly, article about Korea is for people voting only.

Is it not more dangerous to be holding elections?

Dont bother arguing with the 2 posters that keep replying to you. I tired to get the same point across about masks last night and just got abuse for it. It's even answered in the thread by a HSE consultant that for the general public they are of no use.

Some people cant get that into their head and think wearing them helps, it doesn't.

techdiver · 20-03-2020 02:15PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Looking online, people requested tests on Saturday and are still waiting to be told a date today in Cork and similar from other people online. Seems to be a massive backlog here so could be a lot more people here then we think.

In the same boat with family members in the midlands. In some instances the wait might be so long that those tested might be negative at this stage. That might not seem like a big deal, but it might be important to identify who has had the virus and who has recovered from an immunity point of view.

What I don't understand is how are the government going to ramp up testing to many 15000 per day (https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0319/1124042-coronavirus-ireland/) when there is already such a wait for tests?

Spook_ie · 20-03-2020 02:16PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Typical of the on-thread nonsense being posted - calls for checks of cars disembarking Ferries (check what exactly?), on the spot fines for people standing talking to each other and now a 'one-shop-a-week' enforcement policy.

Do some lads think we have an army of thousands of bureaucrats on stand-by to monitor and enforce whatever is the latest stupid policy they dream up?

Had a smile to myself reading the bit about standing talking to each other.

Text received from NTA to all taxi drivers a few days ago.

Following a request from Assistant Commissioner Pat Leahy, we would like to remind you about the importance of social distancing from fellow drivers. Today, Gardai driving around Dublin City centre witnessed groups of drivers huddled together. The Gardai requested that they keep their distance from each other to protect their health and that of their families, together with their passengers. Please practice social distancing and hand hygiene.

caveat emptor · 20-03-2020 02:16PM

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

I feel like a lot of people are saying they are useless because they were not able to buy any. So now they spout out that they are useless to make themselves feel better

Exactly like the people who on here said "You are stupid stock piling , it's just a flu" then when panic set in they were down in Aldi at the exact same time moaning about there being no pasta and how people shouldn't be panic buying while they themselves were panic buying.
Mentalers.

iwillyeah1234 · 20-03-2020 02:16PM

UK - "Social distancing needs to be in place for most of the year, say government advisers"

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-social-distancing-needs-to-be-in-place-for-most-of-a-year-say-government-advisers-11960920

joeguevara · 20-03-2020 02:17PM

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

Re 'Not being worn correctly or changed regularly causes infection'. This applies in a CLINICAL setting where the wearer has a higher risk of exposure and/or contact with a vulnerable person than a general member of the public does.

Exactly. But as they offer no extra protection when not in proximity of public, it’s the only time where relevant. Obviously it is better than not wearing them. People don’t wash hands properly usually but it’s better than not washing. Same as I’ll fitting masks. But touching face more often seems to be the big issue.

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 02:17PM

techdiver wrote: »

In the same boat with family members in the midlands. In some instances the wait might be so long that those tested might be negative at this stage. That might not seem like a big deal, but it might be important to identify who has had the virus and who has recovered from an immunity point of view.

What I don't understand is how are the government going to ramp up testing to many 15000 per day (https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0319/1124042-coronavirus-ireland/) when there is already such a wait for tests?

There will now be 32 centres and I think they said they now have 6 labs working on tests. Some of the drive-in ones could get through a lot each day.

signostic · 20-03-2020 02:17PM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

The virus is a minor illness for the vast majority of people. No worse than a sniffle for most. Great to see people out and about on a fine day instead of being consumed with fear. The hardcore extravaganza of panic and economic suicide will create more damage to people's health and wellbeing than the virus itself.

Try telling that to the people of Bergamo....

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