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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #4622
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,884 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    greenpilot wrote: »
    "People are dying who have never died before."

    Donald Trump.

    Classic! :P


  • #4623
    kona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,525 ✭✭✭kona


    Silent Running wrote: »
    A family member returned from the UK last night. He said the ferry was packed with UK cars. There were no checks when he disembarked.

    I wonder how many are leaving the UK because of the current policies there. I also wonder how many are bringing the virus with them.

    Ferrys have been full of uk reg cars for the past 2 years, some bargains to be had.:)


  • #4624
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    murpho999 wrote: »
    The official advice is to only wear them to if you are infected.

    If you are not infected then they are of no use. This is official advice. You will not breathe the virus in by walking by somebody.

    Doctors are at higher risk, and they were masks to prevent spreading to other patients.

    People who are buying masks usually wear them wrong anyway, reuse them therefore rendering them uselss and also prevent people who need them from getting them.

    There is a difference between a surgical mask and a respirator.
    You can't say that. If a person coughs and is infected the HSE advises doctors that it can be in the air for 3 hours after.

    I'd be very cautious in indoor environments such as supermarkets. Sick people need to eat also.

    Just because our government didn't provision enough masks does not mean that those who saw this coming and acquired them shouldn't use them.

    Obviously you need to know how to use them. Nothing youtube can't sort you out with.


  • #4625
    Grayditch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭Grayditch


    I'd really like if joggers didn't breath heavily on me while passing from behind with ZERO distance. Business as usual for these mutants.


  • #4626
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    murpho999 wrote: »
    The official advice is to only wear them to if you are infected.

    If you are not infected then they are of no use. This is official advice. You will not breathe the virus in by walking by somebody.

    Doctors are at higher risk, and they were masks to prevent spreading to other patients.

    People who are buying masks usually wear them wrong anyway, reuse them therefore rendering them uselss and also prevent people who need them from getting them.

    This is so patronizing, a 2 minute YouTube will show you how to wear and use them correctly. It's not rocket science!!!


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  • #4627
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,348 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Cupatae wrote: »
    It makes me laugh you ll see em all with the"STAYHOME" ****e all over there facebook but the same ****in clowns will be out chattin away like nothings happening or ignoring symptoms.. because for some reason... some people seem to think this virus only happens to other people.

    The virus is a minor illness for the vast majority of people. No worse than a sniffle for most. Great to see people out and about on a fine day instead of being consumed with fear. The hardcore extravaganza of panic and economic suicide will create more damage to people's health and wellbeing than the virus itself.


  • #4628
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    voluntary wrote: »
    Petrol already below 0.90 EUR in Europe, still over 1.30 EUR in my local garage. WTF? Ripoff Ireland

    Europe is a big place.

    Not 90 cent in Western Europe according to this.

    Things in Ireland are never as bad as people make out.


  • #4629
    voluntary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    RTE needs to start showing the real story in Italy. I went my local tesco yesterday for our weekly supllies, I was the only one wearing gloves. I didnt use a basket of trolly, just my own bags. It was quite busy,, lots of people just buying a few bits.

    What I think they got wrong is telling people to shop as normal, thats crazy alot of folk shop many times a week. Thats increasing risk, increasing the numbers in shops etc.

    Once a week should be the limit. I saw that video of the chinese red cross rep speaking about the italian lockdown not being strict enough. We arnt doing enough

    RTE is a national media. They run a national/gov agenda. People should always keep this in minds.


  • #4630
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    There is a difference between a surgical mask and a respirator.
    You can't say that. If a person coughs and is infected the HSE advises doctors that it can be in the air for 3 hours after.

    I'd be very cautious in indoor environments such as supermarkets. Sick people need to eat also.

    Just because our government didn't provision enough masks does not mean that those who saw this coming and acquired them shouldn't use them.

    Obviously you need to know how to use them. Nothing youtube can't sort you out with.

    honestly if you dont know how to use a mask....i mean its hardly rocket science lol


  • #4631
    bb12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭bb12


    Talisman wrote: »
    Ireland has a relatively young population, ~10% are over 60. But older adults are only one at risk category. People who have serious underlying medical conditions like Heart disease, Diabetes, Lung disease are also at significant risk. Underlying health conditions within the population and our relatively poor levels of physical fitness are a problem.

    The numbers below come from Asthma Society of Ireland, Diabetes Ireland, Healthy Ireland and the HSE.

    Heart Disease:

    High blood pressure: ~13% of the population have received treatment for high blood pressure in the last year.

    High colesterol: ~10% of the population are being treated for this condition.

    Body weight: ~60% of the population are overweight (37%) or obese (23%).

    Diabetes:
    6.5% of the population are estimated to have some form of diabetes.

    Lung Disease:

    COPD: Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is the name for a collection of lung diseases including chronic bronchitis, emphysema and chronic obstructive airways disease.

    From the HSE website:


    The HSE estimate means that ~4% of the population don't know that they have an underlying health condition which puts them at risk.

    Asthma: In Ireland, 1 in 5 people experience asthma at some stage in their life. ~7% of the population are currently being treated for the condition.

    Smoking: 17% of the population are current smokers. 28% of the population are ex-smokers.

    No matter how people choose to interpret the numbers, a significant portion of our population are in at risk categories and that is why we need everyone to be vigilant.

    19% of the current population of Ireland are 60 and over


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  • #4632
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    This is so patronizing, a 2 minute YouTube will show you how to wear and use them correctly. It's not rocket science!!!

    Nothing patronising about it.
    You know that and I know that but people who are wearing them wrong don't do stuff like watch You Tube videos.

    The fact remains it is not necessary for people to wear masks to prevent getting the virus.


  • #4633
    deisedevil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    The virus is a minor illness for the vast majority of people. No worse than a sniffle for most. Great to see people out and about on a fine day instead of being consumed with fear. The hardcore extravaganza of panic and economic suicide will create more damage to people's health and wellbeing than the virus itself.

    Complete and utter shíte!


  • #4634
    Blaze420
    Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    The virus is a minor illness for the vast majority of people. No worse than a sniffle for most. Great to see people out and about on a fine day instead of being consumed with fear. The hardcore extravaganza of panic and economic suicide will create more damage to people's health and wellbeing than the virus itself.

    Dangerous ill informed nonsense.


  • #4635
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    greenpilot wrote: »
    "People are dying who have never died before."

    Donald Trump.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-quote-never-died-before/?collection-id=241602


  • #4636
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Another piece from Italy, this one from the editor of La Stampa.
    My newspaper has found itself on the frontline of the crisis. Free information is more important now than ever

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/20/coronavirus-italy-lessons-countries-crisis-information


  • #4637
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    There is a difference between a surgical mask and a respirator.
    You can't say that. If a person coughs and is infected the HSE advises doctors that it can be in the air for 3 hours after.

    I'd be very cautious in indoor environments such as supermarkets. Sick people need to eat also.

    Just because our government didn't provision enough masks does not mean that those who saw this coming and acquired them shouldn't use them.

    Obviously you need to know how to use them. Nothing youtube can't sort you out with.

    THe virus is not airborne. How can it float for 3 hours.

    No country anywhere is advising the general public to wear facemasks if not affected and I've looked a good few countries offical health advice and the WHO.

    Wearing masks and gloves does not achieve anything and is not necessary.


  • #4638
    Silent Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    murpho999 wrote: »
    What checks are you expecting as they disembark? Virus has an incubation period.
    Even a simple question like "were you in contact with anyone showing symptoms?"
    EDit wrote: »
    ...and going where? Are all these people going to set up tents in Phoenix Park?
    Not hard to imagine... holiday homes, relatives, rented house in the countryside.
    kona wrote: »
    Ferrys have been full of uk reg cars for the past 2 years, some bargains to be had.:)
    Something tells me you're not taking things seriously enough. Is it worth the risk today? Maybe you're young and think it won't be a problem for you.


  • #4639
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,247 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Renjit wrote: »
    That's not going to end well. Guns and people don't mix well.

    I am trying not to think about what will happen in the US. As it gets worse, I wouldn’t be surprised if riots, looting and mayhem starts. Especially when hatred is being seen in speeches. I would be worried that certain communities could be targeted as people seek something or someone to blame.

    The fact that the media is using it as a political football will exacerbate tension.


  • #4640
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    murpho999 wrote: »
    THe virus is not airborne. How can it float for 3 hours.

    No country anywhere is advising the general public to wear facemasks if not affected and I've looked a good few countries offical health advice and the WHO.

    Wearing masks and gloves does not achieve anything and is not necessary.

    pretty sure Czech republic is actually.


  • #4641
    nozzferrahhtoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,363 ✭✭✭nozzferrahhtoo


    So Bavaria have just announced the Curfew on us that we were pretty much expecting. Big restrictions on when one can leave the house. Some of the stores like DIY which had been allowed to remain open now can not. Including Hairdressers, though I am still unsure why they were ever on the exemption list in the first place.

    Reasons for the curfew and lock down given by the local government here included "Corona Parties" which I expected and.... one I did not hear of or expect to hear before now..... apparently groups of youths who were "Coughing on Old People for fun".


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  • #4642
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Silent Running wrote: »
    Even a simple question like "were you in contact with anyone showing symptoms?"

    They answer "yes", then what?


  • #4643
    DevilsHaircut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    Re masks, as a general member of the public, wearing one will not do you any harm and may provide some protection.

    The need to dispose of them after use applies largely in a CLINICAL setting, where there's a good chance the wearer has exposure to the virus or is in contact with vulnerable people.

    The general public should not stockpile disposable or any other masks, but if you have one already, using it will do no harm.


  • #4644
    banie01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Wombatman wrote: »
    Galway plant making ventilators gone to 24/7 shifts.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/medtronic-to-double-number-of-staff-making-ventilators-in-ireland-1.4207316

    Similar situation with some other Medical Equipment plants in Ireland.

    I know of one plant in particular that has 1 line that manufactures a form of respiratory stent.
    The usual shift is days only, with the current demand for the respiratory stent.
    Shift pattern has been doubled and staff are volunteering to ensure that this particular line stays operative.

    The bottle neck now in their getting product out to hospitals is, getting slots in their sterilization provider.
    1 provider of that particular service in Ireland AFAIK, and they are getting slammed with the product reaching them.

    The freight and logistics in this emergency really are a bloody wonder.
    I know a lot of folk in SCM at the moment who are working absolutely mental hours to keep both medical supplies and food and essentials moving.


  • #4645
    bb12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭bb12


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Nothing patronising about it.
    You know that and I know that but people who are wearing them wrong don't do stuff like watch You Tube videos.

    The fact remains it is not necessary for people to wear masks to prevent getting the virus.

    everyone who had the foresight to buy masks should be wearing them now. it seems the virus is widespread in ireland now.

    this line that they don't help is being fed to everyone because there is a national shortage of them and they can't be got


  • #4646
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    Cupatae wrote: »
    honestly if you dont know how to use a mask....i mean its hardly rocket science lol

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112859400&postcount=13


  • #4647
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    murpho999 wrote: »
    THe virus is not airborne. How can it float for 3 hours.

    No country anywhere is advising the general public to wear facemasks if not affected and I've looked a good few countries offical health advice and the WHO.

    Wearing masks and gloves does not achieve anything and is not necessary.

    All Asian countries make people wear a mask when they go outside and they are the counties which are handling this crisis the best. China, Singapore, S. Korea etc


  • #4648
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    pretty sure Czech republic is actually.

    Oh, yes wear a scarf.

    One country out of how many?

    The idea though is to stop it spreading to other people. Not that the mask will stop you getting it. Big difference.


  • #4649
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Portugal is trending almost exactly the same way as Ireland is . 234 new cases today, probably what we will roughly report today as well.

    Portugal is the 18th country worldwide to reach 1000 cases


  • #4650
    dublin99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭dublin99


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Even if useless medically, I still think anything is better than nothing. When I wear a mask put, I never touch my face. When I get home, I have to take off the mask and it reminds me to wash my hands.

    Agree totally. Same here. Just be sure to sanitise hands before putting on mask, and sanitise hands BEFORE and AFTER removing mask.

    Look at Asian cities where masks are mandatory like Macau. The spread has been well under control.

    Even Prague has made it mandatory to wear a mask or a scarf when you are out.

    If everyone wears a mask, community transmission is minimised (as in the case in Hong Kong when most new cases are imported) Anyone can be a silent carrier.

    One way and two way protection re masks:
    https://fastlifehacks.com/n95-vs-ffp/


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  • #4651
    TheAsYLuMkeY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Classic! :P

    You would swear bush came back for a day with a quote like that.
    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    The virus is a minor illness for the vast majority of people. No worse than a sniffle for most. Great to see people out and about on a fine day instead of being consumed with fear. The hardcore extravaganza of panic and economic suicide will create more damage to people's health and wellbeing than the virus itself.

    You obviously think this is an everyday normal thing to see in your neighbourhood,

    506325.JPG


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