CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

Deleted User wrote: »

Even if useless medically, I still think anything is better than nothing. When I wear a mask put, I never touch my face. When I get home, I have to take off the mask and it reminds me to wash my hands.

If in high risk category like father and you have no choice but to have to go to chemists and shops everything helps like masks and disposable gloves.

rob316 wrote: »

Would you ever give it a rest. Every single of your posts is lockdown this, lockdown that, its boring lad.

Have a listen to what the Chinese Red Cross delegation in Italy said today about the current measures in Italy. Then say that talk of a lockdown is boring. We need to do more.

Duke of Url wrote: »

We get our own stats now.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/ireland/

I know our numbers are low so far but still 1% in serious/critical condition seems to be good.

I know we have a major lack of icu beds and beds in general and also a lack of equipment and major lack of staff in our hospitals. But I have been told that the icu nurses and staff in Ireland are extremely well trained and well sought after by other countries.

I hope after this healthcare workers get some recognition and a pay increase. They deserve it. So many nurses are trained here and move aboard for better pay and treatment. It’s a shame really.

otnomart wrote: »

So have other European Countries, but unfortunately it is not enough to flatten to curve. This is why the other Countries (except Netherlands and UK) have introduce lockdowns.
And even lockdowns don't have immediate effects, China has shown how long it will take.

Both Singpoare and Hong Kong have experienced a strong uptick in the number of new cases recently.
Hong Kong, 25% increase in cases today
Singapore 12% increase today, and 20% increase yesterday

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

You`re not mistaken. Expect a huge fatality rate there.

And wherever they return home to.

BluePlanet wrote: »

It has to be managed throughout the EU, not everyplace at the same time.
Similar to China.

They managed to do it in Wuhan.

and yes, those fecking dogs should be humanely kenneled so as to prevent their owners from breaking quarantine.

Take a look at a map.
Compare the E.U. to Wuhan.
The EU is an non- federated union of sovereign countries that covers 4.476 million km²
Wuhan is a city that covers 8,494 km²

See many offshore Islands in Wuhan?
How about very rural dwellings?

What locations do you suggest be used as the 'humane' kennels?
Who pays for the food?
Who minds the dogs?
Do have even the slightest idea how many pet dogs there are in the EU?
What about the mental health of those whose dogs are taken from them?

You really haven't thought this through have you?

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Not yet. But its doubling about every 3 days. So 1000 cases in 3 days, 2000 cases by Thursday next week, 4000 by next weekend. And that's only the confirmed cases. There's already a substantial backlog of people waiting to be tested and people who won't bother getting tested.

The only slight positive so far is the relatively low median age.

Ireland has a relatively young population, ~10% are over 60. But older adults are only one at risk category. People who have serious underlying medical conditions like Heart disease, Diabetes, Lung disease are also at significant risk. Underlying health conditions within the population and our relatively poor levels of physical fitness are a problem.

The numbers below come from Asthma Society of Ireland, Diabetes Ireland, Healthy Ireland and the HSE.

Heart Disease:

High blood pressure: ~13% of the population have received treatment for high blood pressure in the last year.

High colesterol: ~10% of the population are being treated for this condition.

Body weight: ~60% of the population are overweight (37%) or obese (23%).

Diabetes:
6.5% of the population are estimated to have some form of diabetes.

Lung Disease:

COPD: Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) is the name for a collection of lung diseases including chronic bronchitis, emphysema and chronic obstructive airways disease.

From the HSE website:

Around 110,000 people in Ireland have been diagnosed with COPD, but it is thought that there are about 200,000 people living with the disease who have not been diagnosed. This is because many people who develop the symptoms of COPD do not get medical help because they often dismiss their symptoms as a 'smoker's cough'.

The HSE estimate means that ~4% of the population don't know that they have an underlying health condition which puts them at risk.

Asthma: In Ireland, 1 in 5 people experience asthma at some stage in their life. ~7% of the population are currently being treated for the condition.

Smoking: 17% of the population are current smokers. 28% of the population are ex-smokers.

No matter how people choose to interpret the numbers, a significant portion of our population are in at risk categories and that is why we need everyone to be vigilant.

I have to smile at RTE's ad about being the people with the news you can trust.


They were very slow to report on this as it was emerging and when they did, did so in an offhand almost jocose manner.

joeguevara wrote: »

Link broken

Working OK when I click from my post?

wakka12 wrote: »

Both Singpoare and Hong Kong have experienced a strong uptick in the number of new cases recently.
Hong Kong, 25% increase in cases today
Singapore 12% increase today, and 20% increase yesterday

Largely due to huge numbers returning from abroad.
A lot of students studying overseas going home after school, colleges closing.
Also a lot of mainland Chinese students using Hong Kong as transit as there are very few flights direct to China.
In Hong Kong everyone has to go through 14 days quarantine, either wearing a wrist band (works with App to track location) or in designated hotels.

Dcully wrote: »

While all my clan are staying indoors apart from my wife who needs to go to her office some days its pretty annoying when i drove to local woods for a brisk walk yesterday and each time i drive by the local supervalu the car part is full and i could clearly see people queueing in the ajoining post office just like a normal day.
My young lad works in the same supervalu part time and we pulled him out at the weekend as the place was just packed everyday.
A friend send me a video of a group of teens in Celbridge spitting on shopping trollies at their local aldi.

Show these people the latest report on sky news from Italy and they would chance their tune fairly rapidly.

Unfortunately, they will probably just laugh.

Spook_ie wrote: »

Well it's hardly surprising that it's difficult to understand him, he could of course wear it to the chemist and use a 2 meter gap to isolate himself from whomever he's talking to, or use a pen and paper!

or sign language

Dcully wrote: »

While all my clan are staying indoors apart from my wife who needs to go to her office some days its pretty annoying when i drove to local woods for a brisk walk yesterday and each time i drive by the local supervalu the car park is full and i could clearly see people queueing close to eachother in the ajoining post office just like a normal day.
My young lad works in the same supervalu part time and we pulled him out at the weekend as the place was just packed everyday.
A friend send me a video of a group of teens in Celbridge spitting on shopping trollies at their local aldi.

Show these people the latest report on sky news from Italy and they would chance their tune fairly rapidly as its pretty grim.

I can only hope karma gets those mank trolley spitters back. I’d say their parents and grandparents are very proud to have raised such lovely youth. Hope they’ve seen the videos.