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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #4412
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    CucaFace wrote: »
    So I just came into my closed down school in Dublin to check something (I can do this without coming into contact with anyone) and the walls and shutters have been destroyed with graffiti overnight. Going to cost me 100's to get that cleaned up again, at a time when I can least afford to fix this.

    Great to see the spirit of togetherness in our time of greatest crisis is strong....

    What type of losers find this 'activity' entertaining?


    The type of losers who we are asking to "self Isolate" when they get sick !


  • #4413
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    Aldi now closes at 8 PM.
    Lidl now closes at 9 PM.

    This is nationwide?


  • #4414
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Why are people so certain what is happening in Italy is coming our way?

    From all accounts and info available during the initial stages of this virus the Italians had zero social distancing policies in place and the general public mixed and socialised the same as always.

    We have closed pubs and restaurants, schools and all sporting organisations have also been closed. People from what I can see are keeping their distance when out and about and the shops for the best part are also taking responsible measure.

    Ok some people are going to continue to be idiotic as always but that doesn't warrant people calling for the army to be sent in our a sudden and total lockdown of basic services.

    We have taken measure to ensure this thing doesn't get beyond our control. Let's wait and see what effect these measures have on the transmission. We won't know for a few days more and I'm betting people will be pleasantly surprised .

    Whats happening in Italy is coming every-bodies way. Its already happening in Spain, Germany, France and now UK. We're a little bit more used to it by now though so it doesn't seem so bad anymore. A few weeks ago, a few hundred new cases in Europe was a big deal, now its not.

    We all took steps after seeing what happened to Italy. But it can take a few weeks for steps to have any benefit.

    We're well on course to having thousands affected by the end of the month.
    Despite the measures, Italy's numbers are still growing for now.


  • #4415
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    JRant wrote: »
    For me this is a very worrying development. Emergency legislation has a habit of always being too authoritarian and gives government agencies far more power than is warranted.

    We're an open democracy without a history of authoritarian governments apart from the church.

    These measures are correct and temporary.


  • #4416
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    1903 new cases in Spain today, 171 new deaths , and it's only noon.

    Lockdown not working

    There will be a lag between the start of the lockdown and any effects it may have.


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  • #4417
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    171 new deaths and 2,000 new cases in Spain already this morning.


  • #4418
    mick987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Similar to British media slamming Saint Patrick day parties. Instead of focusing on their government approach they strategically placed people in Green and portrayed them as the issue.

    There was worse editorials than below but you get the idea

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-advice-ignored-st-patricks-21710113

    Did you read the article, it is criticising british people going to parades in the UK nothing to do with people in green


  • #4419
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Right now, it’s more important to act as if we will be like Italy so everybody is extra vigilant. That includes telling off idiots for being idiots. This whole “stop scaring people” has to stop. There is a massive threat and people need to be averted to be on top of this.

    Sorry but non essential mental heath (I need to be out) things need to be avoided. We are such a pampered society all we have to do is stay the f**k home. You can see people in this thread justifying things they don’t need to do but want to do. Why are they waiting until the authority’s force us to do what they won’t do? We know what’s probably coming (much stricter lockdown rules), why do people think it’s grand to go about their day relatively unconcerned until this is forced on us?

    We're doing what the experts are telling us lad. We are following the advice of the CMO the HSE and their offices.

    We have been told to apply social distancing and for the best part I think that is happening.


  • #4420
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    This is a dangerous mindset to get into. The fact that number are increasing does not mean lockdown isn't working. They haven't been in lockdown that long, and we have no idea what the numbers would be without the lockdown.

    Sorry guys , best to ignore me, I am in Spain and my anxiety is off the chart


  • #4421
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    This is a dangerous mindset to get into. The fact that number are increasing does not mean lockdown isn't working. They haven't been in lockdown that long, and we have no idea what the numbers would be without the lockdown.
    Numbers may be increasing due to more testing, as ours will.


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  • #4422
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    amadangomor wrote: »
    There will be a lag between the start of the lockdown and any effects it may have.

    Correct, a significant lag. There is also a lag between testing and results.

    All the stats are a few days 'old' at the very least.


  • #4423
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    kingshankly wrote: »
    Do Spain not give their 24 hour totals at noon or is that just for today

    Spain update at least 3 times daily


  • #4424
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,391 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    mick987 wrote: »
    Did you read the article, it is criticising british people going to parades in the UK nothing to do with people in green

    The worst part of that story is they are wearing the hats Ivory Coast style!

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #4425
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,277 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Sorry guys , best to ignore me, I am in Spain and my anxiety is off the chart

    Where you at Hector? Both my parents are there, Dad 70 next month, and even if they wanted to leave they can't now.


  • #4426
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Sorry guys , best to ignore me, I am in Spain and my anxiety is off the chart

    Hopefully you are ok. Just stay in and do as much as you can. Anxiety is a bad thing so make sure to do as much to relax yourself.


  • #4427
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Can we not get a map of where the disease is spreading?
    In South Korea they had an app where you could see.
    Something like the attached.


    My guess:
    - hospitals
    - airports
    - ports
    - train stations



    Most likely Dublin is ground 0


  • #4428
    ArchXStanton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    murpho999 wrote: »
    We're an open democracy without a history of authoritarian governments apart from the church.

    These measures are correct and temporary.

    Huh??


  • #4429
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    I’m still amazed at how some people are still trying to downplay this. Some people won’t take this seriously enough until it hits them personally.

    I know a person under 50 fighting for their lives in a coma right now. All the symptoms of Corona and just waiting for test result. Reading some of the lazy attitude to this is so concerning. A lot of people really don’t know what they are talking about and are not grasping how bad this is going to get.

    Prevention is better then cure. Stay at home unless absolutely necessary. Take precautions. Wash your hands. Keep your distance. Think as though you could infect somebody else who might die from this. A decision you make could kill somebody. There is a difference between having to get shopping, to enjoying a nice chat with somebody face to face. Get in, get out of shops. Order online if possible (I’m going to order 2 weeks in advance now). My butchers have option to phone in advance and get food brought out to you in car park. I’m going to petrol station at night (if I need petrol) , preferably to use hatch. We can excercise in our kitchen (don’t need to go out) with our children or back garden if needs be.

    There is an answer for everybody who thinks they need to go out. Most of us can get by at home if we put our minds to it. Just have to change that mindset from what you want or think you need, to what has to be done to slow down the spread.


  • #4430
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Cases in Iceland pass 400
    That is over 0.1% of their population!


  • #4431
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Drumpot wrote: »
    I’m still amazed at how some people are still trying to downplay this. Some people won’t take this seriously enough until it hits them personally.

    I know a person under 50 fighting for their lives in a coma right now. All the symptoms of Corona and just waiting for test result. Reading some of the lazy attitude to this is so concerning. A lot of people really don’t know what they are talking about and are not grasping how bad this is going to get.

    Prevention is better then cure. Stay at home unless absolutely necessary. Take precautions. Wash your hands. Keep your distance. Think as though you could infect somebody else who might die from this. A decision you make could kill somebody. There is a difference between having to get shopping, to enjoying a nice chat with somebody face to face. Get in, get out of shops. Order online if possible (I’m going to order 2 weeks in advance now). My butchers have option to phone in advance and get food brought out to you in car park. I’m going to petrol station at night (if I need petrol) , preferably to use hatch. We can excercise in our kitchen (don’t need to go out) with our children or back garden if needs be.

    There is an answer for everybody who thinks they need to go out. Most of us can get by at home if we put our minds to it. Just have to change that mindset from what you want or think you need, to what has to be done to slow down the spread.
    I don't think it's being downplayed at all, most people have now mentally processed the situation, they have adjusted and are calmer. On petrol, there is also the Pay at Pump option ,in Circle K at least.


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  • #4432
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭plodder


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    As with everything that he says , it was mostly not true.

    They have been using it , with some success in China and elsewhere since mid january , but it isn't a universal solution and has quite a few side-effects and risks.

    The drug has not been approved by the FDA for Covid-19 treatment , nor is it "easily prescribed and taken" - Even a slight miscalculation in dosage can lead to death in a matter of hours so it absolutely positively could not be handed out over the counter and would have to be administered in a Hospital environment.

    So - To clarify what Trump actually meant

    A drug that has been in use elsewhere with some but limited positive effect on the Virus for 3 months has not yet been approved by the FDA and probably won't be any time soon ( in the context of this emergency) and even when it is, it's usage will have to be incredibly carefully controlled by medical professionals.
    I think you are being overly pessimistic there. The drug has been approved for testing (of efficacy presumably), to confirm or otherwise the findings from China.

    It goes without saying that it has to be prescribed/taken in controlled settings doses etc. There's no question of people buying them over the counter. I've heard it's easy to manufacture also. Drugs like this will be part of the solution, long before any vaccine is.

    I think we should be careful to not completely dismiss everything Trump says. It's possible that he might sometimes say something that turns out to be right, at least partly.


  • #4433
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Where you at Hector? Both my parents are there, Dad 70 next month, and even if they wanted to leave they can't now.

    just north of Barcelona


  • #4434
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,742 ✭✭✭✭josip


    citytillidie wrote: »
    Ghost planes so airlines don’t lose their slots in airports I was to fly yesterday to Canada, got text and email on what gate to go to and such so I am guess the flight still went ahead


    Are airlines issuing refunds for passengers booked on those ghost flights?
    Why hasn't there been a clamour from the airlines to suspend the need for the ghost flights since fuel is their main cost?


  • #4435
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »
    Can we not get a map of where the disease is spreading?
    In South Korea they had an app where you could see.
    Something like the attached.


    My guess:
    - hospitals
    - airports
    - ports
    - train stations



    Most likely Dublin is ground 0

    I thought it would spread like wildfire in somewhere like Dublin airport. But there's been no breakdown of cases there. Or anecdotal evidence of a cluster in Dublin airport. You'd also think cabin crew might be affected.

    There definitely needs to be better reporting and exact locations of clusters. This helps people conduct their own contact tracing which will be crucial going forward.


  • #4436
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,101 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Right now, it’s more important to act as if we will be like Italy so everybody is extra vigilant. That includes telling off idiots for being idiots. This whole “stop scaring people” has to stop. There is a massive threat and people need to be alerted to be on top of this.

    Sorry but non essential mental heath (I need to be out) things need to be avoided. We are such a pampered society all we have to do is stay the f**k home. You can see people in this thread justifying things they don’t need to do but want to do. Why are they waiting until the authority’s force us to do what they won’t do? We know what’s probably coming (much stricter lockdown rules), why do people think it’s grand to go about their day relatively unconcerned until this is forced on us?

    Consider yourself virtually kissed on the forehead! Spot. On.


  • #4437
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    I thought it would spread like wildfire in somewhere like Dublin airport. But there's been no breakdown of cases there. Or anecdotal evidence of a cluster in Dublin airport. You'd also think cabin crew might be affected.

    There definitely needs to be better reporting and exact locations of clusters. This helps people conduct their own contact tracing which will be crucial going forward.


    The HSE really dropped the ball on this one.


  • #4438
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Spain update at least 3 times daily

    So Spain could be worse than Italy in a few days time. This is really hitting southern Europe hard for some reason. It will be interesting to see how a country like Belgium fares.


  • #4439
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    1903 new cases in Spain today, 171 new deaths , and it's only noon.

    Lockdown not working

    When did they impose the lockdown? 14th March was it?


  • #4440
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Right now, it’s more important to act as if we will be like Italy so everybody is extra vigilant. That includes telling off idiots for being idiots. This whole “stop scaring people” has to stop. There is a massive threat and people need to be alerted to be on top of this.

    Sorry but non essential mental heath (I need to be out) things need to be avoided. We are such a pampered society all we have to do is stay the f**k home. You can see people in this thread justifying things they don’t need to do but want to do. Why are they waiting until the authority’s force us to do what they won’t do? We know what’s probably coming (much stricter lockdown rules), why do people think it’s grand to go about their day relatively unconcerned until this is forced on us?




    Because we always are more ready to believe what we want to believe.
    I really hope this will be the biggest anti climax I have ever experienced but the experience from Italy, France, Spain tells me this is just wishful thinking.


    We have to Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.


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  • #4441
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    sheepsh4gger wrote: »


    The HSE really dropped the ball on this one.

    Absolutely. I have no confidence in the HSE anymore. They've dropped the ball so many times. They are carrying out testing but what good is that if you don't hand over a mandatory isolation order to an infected person and if your contact tracing is likely inadequate.


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