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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #4262
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,949 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Do people think trump is wrong to call it the China Virus ?
    I can't see why he is getting stick for it , that's where it came from and they actively tried to blame it on American soldiers and they actively tried to hide it form the world for a month,

    I can't for the life of me see why people are annoyed at Trump for taking a stand against China ,Sars also came from China about time someone started calling them out if they continue the way the have been what's next ? something worse than this could wipe out everybody ,


  • #4263
    Longing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Longing


    @Kermit.de.frog When this is all over there is one thing which will stand out to me. That is how selfish humanity is.


  • #4264
    TheAsYLuMkeY
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    I know how the government could get people to stay indoors.

    if your found to be out unnecessarily, your emergency payment that has been introduced by the government for this is axed.

    we would see massive compliance then.


  • #4265
    scamalert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    few degrees up and kids are out and about, this crap isnt working, its hilarious how some describe their activities as if going outdoors they are going into radiation zone or something, lots of mild case flu going around, numbers dont matter if we all need eventually to get it. cant see this last past end of this month, the dole offices are probabbly burried by people on the dole, if hse got equipment ready and are prepared enough this should end by the month and back to usual, can't see with temperatures going up that anyone will stay in doors much longer, given good few months this been out here, its safe to assume many are infected or have been, but aside critical or dead, its pointless to go with daily updates, as its not spreading here like anywhere else so safe to assume many are ok.


  • #4266
    citytillidie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,864 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    wakka12 wrote: »
    WTF?? I thought air traffic in Europe was down to an absolute minimum currently, like basically flights just getting some citizens back to their home countries

    Ghost planes so airlines don’t lose their slots in airports I was to fly yesterday to Canada, got text and email on what gate to go to and such so I am guess the flight still went ahead

    ******



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  • #4267
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,706 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    HighLine wrote: »
    When you look at how many planes are in the air right now, it's no wonder how this virus is spreading at the rate it is. (Image from https://www.flightradar24.com/40.26,-28.76/3)

    506307.jpg


    Imagine what it's like when most of the fleet isn't grounded.


  • #4268
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    I know how the government could get people to stay indoors.

    if your found to be out unnecessarily, your emergency payment that has been introduced by the government for this is axed.

    we would see massive compliance then.

    Not just energy payment , all payments across the board


  • #4269
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,277 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    I'd say it's more to do with it costing them more (lights, heating, wages) than they are making per day.

    Hopefully people realise they don't need to buy throwaway clothes from Penney's every 5 minutes. It's one of the biggest polluters in the world, this kind of fast fashion. Funny how we'd all be fine with the clothes we have for years if we couldn't buy any.


  • #4270
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    I know how the government could get people to stay indoors.

    if your found to be out unnecessarily, your emergency payment that has been introduced by the government for this is axed.

    we would see massive compliance then.
    An awful lot of people are WFH(working from home), so that would have no real effect. There is forced isolation built into the new legislation, if required.


  • #4271
    Blazer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,475 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Do people think trump is wrong to call it the China Virus ?
    I can't see why he is getting stick for it , that's where it came from and they actively tried to blame it on American soldiers and they actively tried to hide it form the world for a month,

    I can't for the life of me see why people are annoyed at Trump for taking a stand against China ,Sars also came from China about time someone started calling them out if they continue the way the have been what's next ? something worse than this could wipe out everybody ,

    It’s called Covid-19 or Coronavirus. Not bloody Chinese virus.
    Trump is just disingenuous by diverting his moronic supporters low iq to blaming China instead of his complete failure to react in time to prevent it from getting worse.


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  • #4272
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,244 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Do people think trump is wrong to call it the China Virus ?
    I can't see why he is getting stick for it , that's where it came from and they actively tried to blame it on American soldiers and they actively tried to hide it form the world for a month,

    I can't for the life of me see why people are annoyed at Trump for taking a stand against China ,Sars also came from China about time someone started calling them out if they continue the way the have been what's next ? something worse than this could wipe out everybody ,

    In all honesty I don’t care what he calls it. However he is using it as a ploy to deflect from the fact he blatantly lied from the beginning and allowed his braggadocio to get in the way actually facing reality.

    Also it is causing Asians to be attacked. Most bizarre is a Brazilian girl getting abuse and assaulted by a guy on the Luas because she looks Chinese. What he calls it is irrelevant. What happens after isn’t.


  • #4273
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,706 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I think we can learn some lessons from the aftermath of the 1918 flu pandemic. It was quickly followed by the Roaring Twenties.

    ...and barely ten years later we had the most devastating economic crash the world has ever seen.


  • #4274
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Hopefully people realise they don't need to buy throwaway clothes from Penney's every 5 minutes. It's one of the biggest polluters in the world, this kind of fast fashion. Funny how we'd all be fine with the clothes we have for years if we couldn't buy any.
    Penneys have closed.


  • #4275
    Longing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Longing


    Belgium is going to have a rough day. 462C 16 deaths. Stay strong my friends.


  • #4276
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Btw whats the story about that Malaria drug that Trump was going on about, I had heard about it and was hopeful, but when Trump starts valling it the cure - you know somethings wrong ... :(

    Ah well it is not just Trump you know. Scott Adams is also excited about it. And sure you can trust Scott Adams. He is not the type of person who would create sock puppets to use to go around the internet telling people Scott Adams is a "certified Genius" or anything. Oh - wait - he is. :)

    But nah seriously - there are plenty of Anti Viral drugs in existence and we are of course going to test many of them on this new Virus. Some will show promise. Some will not. But we need stats rather than anecdotes on both their efficacy and safety before we roll out a program. Especially in a world where any whiff that a drug might be useful will result in profiteers buying up swaths of it to hold to ransom despite people needing it for it's original purpose like Malaria and so on.

    So sit tight and hope but do not put too much stock in early reports just yet. It would certainly be nice if a public domain cheap existing drug turned out to be useful!


  • #4277
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Not sure if this has already been posted?

    https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1240474928333414401?s=19

    I'm sure plenty will be saying there should be vehicles spread all over Ireland's runways....


  • #4278
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Remember to those who get infected-you are doing your country and society a Service in the name of building our immunity

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #4279
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,501 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    How bad does it have to get before everybody takes this thing as seriously as they should?


  • #4280
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Trump as usual spoofing.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/health/coronavirus-drugs-chloroquine.html
    Maybe not. There are a few therapies showing early promise and that's very much one of them.
    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    I can't for the life of me see why people are annoyed at Trump for taking a stand against China ,Sars also came from China about time someone started calling them out if they continue the way the have been what's next ? something worse than this could wipe out everybody ,
    Other than the fact that Trump is going for the redneck vote with the "Chinese Virus" angle, yes China and any other nations operating the pathogen time bombs that are wet markets mixing wild and domesticated animals need to be shamed by the rest of the world and hit hard in the pocket if they don't ban them outright. We've known for many decades how bloody dangerous this practice is, yet here we are.
    Longing wrote: »
    @Kermit.de.frog When this is all over there is one thing which will stand out to me. That is how selfish humanity is.
    It's a mix of being hard wired not to panic, not being able to see the threat(literally and figuratively) and sadly a large percentage of low intelligence people. There are an awful lot of stupid people about that are classed as and even appear to be within "normal" parameters.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • #4281
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,706 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Do people think trump is wrong to call it the China Virus ?

    It's part of his propaganda effort. Gotta keep the Chinese as the new enemy in the minds of the more stupider Americans.

    The rest of the world calls it the Corona virus or Covid-19. That cunt has to use his own label.

    Can't say I'd care too much if it took him out at this stage. Better people have succumbed to it.


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  • #4282
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Do people think trump is wrong to call it the China Virus ?
    I can't see why he is getting stick for it , that's where it came from and they actively tried to blame it on American soldiers and they actively tried to hide it form the world for a month,

    I can't for the life of me see why people are annoyed at Trump for taking a stand against China ,Sars also came from China about time someone started calling them out if they continue the way the have been what's next ? something worse than this could wipe out everybody ,

    Because it helps nothing. At a time when we all need to work together to get through this Trump is looking to deflect attention from his own miserable failings on this (a lot of people are going to die, way more then would have happened had Trump not played politics and pretend this was a democratic hoax) and to try to make China the enemy. He is such a dangerous twat and he’s possibly the worst person to have as president of possibly the strongest country in the world during a crisis like this. He’s unhinged, uneducated in what needs to be done and motivated to find scapegoats (he was blaming Europe last week) which does nothing for everybody coming together to find a solution.


  • #4283
    Lord Trollington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Just seen some absolute balloon on Sky News saying that the pubs should stay open, there is no sign of it being spread in pubs. It is the common sense approach he states.

    This lad, allowed to spout this on Sky News. In ways the UK really deserve anything thats coming down the tracks at them but at the same time it will be the normal people that suffer. Not these absolute cabbages with a platform.

    It's quite unbelievable


  • #4284
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    The number of deaths in some countries surprised me, has really crept up
    10 Algeria, 7 Egypt, 18 Phillippines, 13 Iraq, 32 Indonesia, 7 Brazil, 37 in Belgium, 11 in Sweden

    Some of these countries had almost no cases two weeks ago


  • #4285
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,230 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Why are people calling for people not to go outside? We're not in official lockdown so people are entitled to go out if they wish.

    I now live alone and am minimizing face to face contact. I'm working from home.

    Have not had a conversation with a person since last Saturday. I now have a routine of going for a walk by the sea as part of my daily shopping trip. That way I get to see people and maybe have a safe chat with shop assistant. It gives me much needed exercise which will be more difficult in the coming weeks when the inevitable lock down is in place.

    Yes, I have seen people of all ages not observing distancing but what do you expect . The vast majority of people are at home as witnessed by quiet roads, streets and public transport. There will always be idiots.

    Either way it's perfectly safe to go outside and get exercise once distancing is observed and people should not be criticised for it as they need to get out for mental health and exercise reasons.
    Its important for people to get some fresh air and this is much easier for some than it is for others. Even prisoners in maximum security prisons get time outside every day

    The problem with cities is that there are few public spaces and they're over subscribed so will be crowded at peak times. People need to stagger their walks, Get up early, go for a walk at 6am, or late in the evening when it's quieter.

    Most people won't do this, so peak afternoon times will always be busy, but by avoiding these times, you're doing a bit to protect yourself, your family, and also the community in general.

    There may be a time when curfews or bans on leaving the house are in place but the more responsible we are now, the less likely we are to see such restrictions later.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #4286
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,949 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Blazer wrote: »
    It’s called Covid-19 or Coronavirus. Not bloody Chinese virus.
    Trump is just disingenuous by diverting his moronic supporters low iq to blaming China instead of his complete failure to react in time to prevent it from getting worse.

    Bu he's not actually wrong blaming China is he


  • #4287
    jamesf85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭jamesf85


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Btw whats the story about that Malaria drug that Trump was going on about, I had heard about it and was hopeful, but when Trump starts valling it the cure - you know somethings wrong ... :(

    I don't know, and this is an awful way to think I think, but the fact that America are so affected by this also gives me hope. There will be so much money flung at this now to find a cure.


  • #4288
    sjb25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭sjb25


    TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »
    Because people are still socialising outdoors is what i heard this morning on Newstalk reporting on chinese red cross opinion on Italy.




    https://twitter.com/TIME/status/1240889102804889600?s=20


  • #4289
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Blazer wrote: »
    Maybe you should really be blaming the civil servants rather than the TDs? After all most of the incompetence is from civil servants who basically go on strike if their tea isn’t hot, plus the whole idea of upskilling seems to have been completely misunderstood by them and they see it as a opportunity to strike for a pay rise each time.
    Case in point- the cops and the pulse system:
    The recent IT staff who refused to work that expensive new printer that cost 800k because they needed a pay rise to upskill.

    Give over !!!

    This pandemic is far more serious than your silly knocking the public service rant.

    Things might be a lot better now if the Neoliberal agenda of ‘low tax’, 'privatization', ‘deregulation’ and ‘small government’ had not caused a chronic under-funding of our public health services. We might even have a hospital bed ratio comparable to our European neighbors.

    This kind of debate is for another time... Fighting against the virus spread is all that matters now.


  • #4290
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,949 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    joeguevara wrote: »
    In all honesty I don’t care what he calls it. However he is using it as a ploy to deflect from the fact he blatantly lied from the beginning and allowed his braggadocio to get in the way actually facing reality.

    Also it is causing Asians to be attacked. Most bizarre is a Brazilian girl getting abuse and assaulted by a guy on the Luas because she looks Chinese. What he calls it is irrelevant. What happens after isn’t.

    You think Trump is to blame for something that happened on the Luas :eek:


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  • #4291
    Lord Trollington
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    eagle eye wrote: »
    How bad does it have to get before everybody takes this thing as seriously as they should?

    I genuinely think the vast majority of people in Ireland are treating this seriously.


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