CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Christy42 · 20-03-2020 01:48AM

rob316 wrote: »

I use my debit card alot but cash is absolute king. Untraceable and when the banks meltdown it'll still work just fine.

It really won't work fine without the banks. If the banks stopped taking notes tomorrow then any notes you had would be worth the paper they are printed on and nothing more.

Hotblack Desiato · 20-03-2020 01:49AM

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

15 Italians who were in Ireland test positive for Coronavirus on return to Italy

Ah, Gript. If they tell you the sun will rise in the morning, get corroboration.

ACitizenErased · 20-03-2020 01:49AM

rob316 wrote: »

You clearly haven't so.

Oldest population around
Median infection age 63
Highly densely populated area (same as munster, 10m vs 1m people)
Spread undetected
and yes they kiss each other alot.

And yet people keep comparing Italy to us.

Hotblack Desiato · 20-03-2020 01:50AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

The cash society leads to widespread tax evasion in many sectors. Its also how many criminal transactions are carried out. If you have nothing to hide then all your banking transactions should be transparent, unless some are illegal?

If everything you do in your house is legal, why do you have curtains on your windows?

saabsaab · 20-03-2020 01:51AM

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

15 Italians who were in Ireland test positive for Coronavirus on return to Italy

https://gript.ie/15-italians-who-were-in-ireland-test-positive-for-coronavirus-on-return-to-italy/

15 Italians who were in Ireland for flight assistant training with Ryanair have Covid19. Some of them were under treatment in two hospitals in Dublin while others have been quarantined.

It is believed that they contracted the virus in Bergamo, near Milan, where the training began. Bergamo is the area with of the largest number
of Corona virus deaths in Italy. Ryanair daily direct flights from Bergamo (Orio al Serio) to Dublin were discontinued only on 10th March.

The group left Bergamo for Bari on 2nd March, when the whole Lombardy region was locked down, and they arrived in Dublin on Saturday 7th March.

This is very interesting. How many of the thousands of Italian tourists had it coming here? Too late now but it was insane to let them travel.

bekker · 20-03-2020 01:51AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

Not valid example as inflation will affect digital money in the same way as it affect cash.
With possible excemption that in case of hyperinflation cash may really be the king as you can get a lot of heat from bales of money.

Provided that you have the wherewithal to acquire them.

My point was that physical paper money is no more independent of the vicissitudes of fiat that any other representation of fiat.

Physical metal fulfils the virtues being advanced for notes, albeit with accompanying difficulties exchanging.

kowloon · 20-03-2020 01:51AM

rob316 wrote: »

I use my debit card alot but cash is absolute king. Untraceable and when the banks meltdown it'll still work just fine.

As a general rule, all the banks going under affects the value of the currency a little.

Larbre34 · 20-03-2020 01:51AM

cnocbui wrote: »

Ventilators are already made in Galway and masks in Limerick.

Marvellous! There should be online conferences set up with designers and engineers in other suitable companies to adopt the component designs and get building asap.

Donald Trump · 20-03-2020 01:52AM

Christy42 wrote: »

It really won't work fine without the banks. If the banks stopped taking notes tomorrow then any notes you had would be worth the paper they are printed on and nothing more.

Ye are all talking about different things and I don't think any of it is relevant here.

One side is talking about the anonymity of using cash - i.e. you can go and pay a hooker and your missus won't find out.

Other side is talking about cash as a unit of accounting being the same as numbers on you internet banking screen

patnor1011 · 20-03-2020 01:52AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

The cash society leads to widespread tax evasion in many sectors.

Not true. Corporate tax evasion is by a magnitude higher that that of little people like you and me. Take apple vs ireland as an example.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Its also how many criminal transactions are carried out.

Not in these days. And not for quite some time. In fact it was proven that most of the criminal transactions are facilitated by some of the biggest banks.
I get that street dealers are taking cash but that is then transferred to a bank which then launder that money - look like how cartels used HSBC to launder money and that is just one example.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If you have nothing to hide then all your banking transactions should be transparent, unless some are illegal?

This again? It’s not that I have something to hide. I have nothing I want you to see.

20-03-2020 01:54AM

Donald Trump wrote: »

Ye are all talking about different things and I don't think any of it is relevant here.

One side is talking about the anonymity of using cash - i.e. you can go and pay a hooker and your missus won't find out.

Other side is talking about cash as a unit of accounting being the same as numbers on you internet banking screen

some ppl were talking about the coronavirus a while back but that seems to have dropped off somehow!

leck · 20-03-2020 01:54AM

Fakediamond wrote: »

I think we’ll be left to our own fate too, the richer countries will look after their own first. Ultimately, there’s a finite amount of equipment, medicines, oxygen. When demand outstrips supply, we’re at the very end of a long supply chain

At present, the HSE has 500 ventilators and 1,000 respiratory machines, Mr Harris told RTÉ radio. He added that the Government will procure a further 300 ventilators and between 80-90 machines per week thereafter.

It will also look to avail of 164 ventilation rooms in private-hospital facilities.

“We are also in very active talks with companies in Ireland, large companies who produce a lot of ventilators and generally export them,” said Mr Harris. “We need those ventilators. Companies based in Ireland making ventilators, we need them to make them available.”

The news comes as medical device company Medtronic, which has facilities in Galway and Athlone, announced plans to more than double its manufacturing capacity in a bid to meet the global demand for ventilators.

Around half of the ventilators manufactured in the world are made in Ireland, mainly by Medtronic, according to IDA Ireland.

Source: https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/coronavirus-hse-and-ida-in-talks-with-ventilator-manufacturers-988985.html

freshpopcorn · 20-03-2020 01:55AM

Steve F wrote: »

Are Banks still doing that?:eek:

It's very common especially in towns in my experience.
In the city store card is very common but in the town store card sales would only be about 25% on a good day and they are generally people who work in the city.
Our BOI went very faceless banking a few years ago and the AIB went 50/50 and it's far more popular in my area.
People just pop in and take money out and met somebody. Lots don't even bother with the ATM.

20-03-2020 01:55AM

Fakediamond wrote: »

I think we’ll be left to our own fate too, the richer countries will look after their own first. Ultimately, there’s a finite amount of equipment, medicines, oxygen. When demand outstrips supply, we’re at the very end of a long supply chain

I believe at this stage it looks like we will weather the Covid19 health storm quite well. Where we will miss EU support is in the economic recovery afterwards. There will be no Troika bailout this time, we're on our own. This could well destroy the EU, because each country will have their own problems and without handouts from the EU money tree, nations will decide they are better off on their own.

rob316 · 20-03-2020 01:56AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

And yet people keep comparing Italy to us.

Its just pure fear., people just refuse to consider the demographics, its bizarre. The first country it popped up in Europe was always going to get the worst of it.

davedanon · 20-03-2020 01:56AM

Half of the world's ventilators are made here already. Nearly all by a US firm called Medtronic.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 20-03-2020 01:56AM

statesaver wrote: »

I always thought a virus needs a living host

Ebola spreads via corpses. Not exclusively of course but it’s one of the main transmission routes.

davedanon · 20-03-2020 01:59AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I believe at this stage it looks like we will weather the Covid19 health storm quite well. Where we will miss EU support is in the economic recovery afterwards. There will be no Troika bailout this time, we're on our own. This could well destroy the EU, because each country will have their own problems and without handouts from the EU money tree, nations will decide they are better off on their own.

I believe it looks like you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Tony EH · 20-03-2020 02:00AM

statesaver wrote: »

I always thought a virus needs a living host

A lot of the body goes on "living" when the brain is dead.

Padre_Pio · 20-03-2020 02:01AM

Larbre34 wrote: »

We actually manufacture quite a bit of high tech gear in this Country. If car builders converted to building bombers during the war, I don't think we're beyond making masks and ventilators.

Ventilators are made in Galway.
Certain anti viral drugs are made in Limerick.
Even Jameson has switched from whiskey to hand sanitiser.

We're better off than most here.

patnor1011 · 20-03-2020 02:03AM

davedanon wrote: »

I believe it looks like you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

There may be some truth in what he said.
Germany confiscated every virus related material coming through Hamburg port. Switzerland summoned german ambassador and demanded release of goods destined to Swiss market and then other countries started making noise as their masks and other stuff were stopped too.
At the end Germans claimed that they were just checking it and agreed to release some of it.

Kermit.de.frog · 20-03-2020 02:06AM

jimmycrackcorm · 20-03-2020 02:07AM

saabsaab wrote: »

This is very interesting. How many of the thousands of Italian tourists had it coming here? Too late now but it was insane to let them travel.

This is a silly arguement as is the whole "Cheltenham" travel.
Wuhan didnt suffer becuase of their airport or because of horse races.

It's ridiculous to point the blame to single points of mass gatherings. It's very clear that community transmission is the problem.

The virus was coming here regardless. People would still be going to the pub and unwittingly transmitting the virus if we had a fake sense of safety from cutting off flights\

joeguevara · 20-03-2020 02:07AM

Wonder how long it would take for an electric cattle prod to be delivered. Sure make social distancing a whole lot easier and definitely a lot more fun.

fritzelly · 20-03-2020 02:08AM

Los Angeles issues 'stay at home order' due to coronavirus, telling citizens to limit non-essential movements

Was against a "lockdown" til what I saw today and some of the comments on here - I think we need it. Don't need to go full on shoot on site if you break curfew but we seriously need to stop all external activity or we are gonna be screwed in the next few weeks. Even if you live in an apartment block there is a recreational area

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1240801221755183104

Hotblack Desiato · 20-03-2020 02:13AM

Christy42 wrote: »

It really won't work fine without the banks. If the banks stopped taking notes tomorrow then any notes you had would be worth the paper they are printed on and nothing more.

Banks were closed due to a strike for months in the 70s, society kept functioning and the value of money did not change.

kowloon · 20-03-2020 02:14AM

joeguevara wrote: »

Wonder how long it would take for an electric cattle prod to be delivered. Sure make social distancing a whole lot easier and definitely a lot more fun.

mount a bunch of fence posts on a belt pointing out horizontally like spokes of a wheel. Then just run an electric fence around it.

20-03-2020 02:14AM

Stheno wrote: »

Depends on your age

There are quite a few overweight people there but they dont all look 70 plus which is old to me

Breakdown of deaths by age group when deaths reached 2,003. 88% of total are 70+, 96% if you include the 60-69 age group.

BonnieSituation · 20-03-2020 02:15AM

kowloon wrote: »

I wonder if there's someone working on a nine-minute test.

This deserved more kudos than it got.

old_aussie · 20-03-2020 02:16AM

rob316 wrote: »

I use my debit card alot but cash is absolute king. Untraceable and when the banks meltdown it'll still work just fine.

Hundreds of shops here with signs on windows ...

NO CASH accepted ,.,.,.,. contactless payments only!

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP