CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

pH wrote: »

In what way is 15,000 a 'worst prediction'

Here's what Leo Varadkar actually said:

so far the number of cases in Ireland has been relatively small.

However, we believe that number will rise to 15,000 cases or more by the end of the month and rise further in the weeks thereafter.

The vast majority of us who contract Covid-19 will experience a mild illness… but some will be hospitalised and sadly some people will die.

We cannot stop this virus but working together we can slow it in its tracks and push it back.

We can, as you have heard by now – flatten the curve. But only if everyone takes sustained action. Nothing less will do.

From this statement you can also conclude that the official Irish government policy is the same as the Dutch policy (ie the policy the UK abandoned) of flattening the curve and slowing it down (rather than suppression).

Maybe the Irish government have a different model to the UK one (if they do they haven't shown it to anyone)?

Yet people will argue til they are blue in the face that that is not what the strategy is. Mainly because they don't want it to be and think they can somehow dodge the bullet.

However it is not correct to say it is the same as the UK, as we have introduced mitigation and suppression early, which will have an affect on our numbers as will the density of our population. Our cities will cause an early spike especially of those not adhering to the guidelines but that will dip and our rural population will help to slow the spread and keep the curve low. The UK have done precisely nothing and its showing even at this early stage.

Cases mean nothing, its ICU beds and deaths. If we keep the right people safe we will come through this about as well as we could expect.

is_that_so wrote: »

And you had to bring up the missing question mark!:(

🙈 :P

My daughter works in Costa. She’s had her 23 year old eyes well and truly opened at how spoilt stupid petulant disobedient and selfish people are.

Boggles wrote: »

Have you link to that?

Does he mean without further mitigation?

Because Leo corrected a reporter who said 10k and Leo said no 15k.

It was this evening's briefing, but that was my understanding of the 15K total anyway as per the model. I have no idea where that briefing can be found, sorry. He did say they will see how these measures are working in about 10 days but also said at present they don't expect to have to escalate things.

EDIT: Here it is - it comes up in the Q&A from about 11.40 onwards

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1PlJQmzOvQyJE

deathbomber wrote: »

Trump mentioned a couple of drugs and indeed 1 is still being reviewed however the other 1 as you state is around decades and indeed is very cheap and tests were very positive with people recovering. Trump would love a new US wonder drug to be approved of course for obvious reasons!!

FDA say it hasn't been approved!

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

Re gloves, masks, etc., advice from HSE consultant in Coronavirus 'ask me anything' earlier in the week https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058062219#4

Reposting as post seems to have been missed and issue still being discussed.

Working from home now as our service is closed. Awaiting redeployment. Most likely will be swabbing this time next week!

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Has anyone mapped today's results into Italian curve, how's the flattering going?

The median age is a bit worrying here at 43yrs old.

Here you go:





That's based on the first 18 days in each country.

"The Dutch association for intensive care units is expecting between 500 and a thousand new Covid-19 patients next week.
With some measures, the Netherlands can have 1,500 ICU beds available"
https://nltimes.nl/2020/03/19/intensive-care-expects-500-1000-coronavirus-patients-next-week

Just finished watching CoronaVirus -Protecting the Elderly, on ITV.
It's very stark. Every individual has a choice in everything they do from here and each bad decision could literally kill someone else indirectly. It really is a test of citizenship and we'll all have to marshall one another.
I recall my father always gushing with pride when he talked of the Dutch people who would pull you up if you dropped litter. This was in 1969!
Having watched my father self-isolate for his last 2-3 winter flu seasons, and he having been floored by the swine flu 'vaccine', my heart goes out to all the poor old folk and younger vulnerable people confined at home or in nursing homes, at the mercy of gobsh1tes and bad luck.
I think some of those young people partying should be locked into a room in an old folks home or a hospice and made witness what people go through as their life energy ebbs away. I watched over my father in law for his last 7 nights on Planet Earth. To spare the family the task and let them rest. I'll never forget the breathing, the long spells of no breathing. But most of all, I'll never forget the life in all of that twilight living, the staff who were so gifted and so valuable beyond a politician or an estate agent or a Garda or an Army Officer. They really perform the Trojan work that we'd all pay tenfold over for if we knew how we'd end up.
God bless all of the frontline health staff, particularly those who look after those who are becoming like children again. Let anyone who must die, die in dignity.

Hopefully the authorities will use all measures available to them to sanction those who blatantly ignore this societal call to arms. The threat is very real now, just lots of me feiners still about.

For those people advocating a full Lockdown. What does it mean for you? Do you want it stricter than Italy, Spain etc. Do people want for nobody to be allowed outside their houses?
We have a huge amount of businesses closed and people working from home already.