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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #3062
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Jin luk


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Christ !!! We could be looking at 60/70 K NEW cases a day at that stage...

    More than likely not as that would envolve testing 100000+ a day and that wont happen i dont feel


  • #3063
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    When did Ireland get its first case? You mean 1st positively tested case? At that stage it was too late. In reality, the first case was probably here weeks beforehand. If it was so easily avoided why are there 140+ countries with cases? Are Leo and FG in charge of all those countries too?
    1st March was our first case.


  • #3064
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Sincere question, have you any fear at all, that someone would dox you , report you to your job?

    Report me for what?

    I haven’t broken any laws. Everyone in work knows why I was off. They were asking me how I got on with Cheltenham, I tagged myself in the pub on Facebook each day and was tagged in pics at my aunts 70th.


  • #3065
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    pH wrote: »
    In what way is 15,000 a 'worst prediction'

    Here's what Leo Varadkar actually said:

    so far the number of cases in Ireland has been relatively small.

    However, we believe that number will rise to 15,000 cases or more by the end of the month and rise further in the weeks thereafter.

    The vast majority of us who contract Covid-19 will experience a mild illness… but some will be hospitalised and sadly some people will die.

    We cannot stop this virus but working together we can slow it in its tracks and push it back.

    We can, as you have heard by now – flatten the curve. But only if everyone takes sustained action. Nothing less will do.

    From this statement you can also conclude that the official Irish government policy is the same as the Dutch policy (ie the policy the UK abandoned) of flattening the curve and slowing it down (rather than suppression).

    Maybe the Irish government have a different model to the UK one (if they do they haven't shown it to anyone)?
    15,000 without mitigation. There are measures in place so it may not hit that.


  • #3066
    davemckenna25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    bb12 wrote: »
    disagree completely esp for people who don't have any sanitiser and are out and about. disposable gloves are a life saver. put them on before leaving the vehicle, do your shopping and dispose of them into bin before hopping back in vehicle. the door handles won't even be infected them.

    i believe the only reason why there is a message against mask wearing is because there are none available to buy. if they don't work why are they mandatory for anyone going outside in china or south korea? anyone i know who works in pharma or biomed tells me to wear masks at all time when venturing outside.

    The problem I see with the gloves is the amount of people wearing them but still using their mobile phone, their wallet/purse, hands in pockets, touching face, hands in hair, etc....
    They are only a good idea if used correctly.


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  • #3067
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭MOR316


    "I was out for a jog and guess what?? THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE!!! I cannot believe it! They're not listening!! Stay indoors!!"

    "I went to the shops earlier and there were idiots there. Like, do people not get the stay at home and self isolating thing?"

    The lack of self awareness here...An art gallery


  • #3068
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,558 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    is_that_so wrote: »
    15,000 without mitigation. There are measures in place so it may not hit that.

    Leo never said that, who has?


  • #3069
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    We really need to lock down, we are in last chance saloon, some people are not abiding and wandering around in groups and arranging to meet friends, they are indirectly contributing to the spread and ultimately partly responsible for deaths.
    Very positive news emerging about treatments using ant malarials and then some new drugs, we need to grind this out for 4 weeks so we can reduce deaths and start getting these drugs, some of which are already in plentiful supply and very cheap to make because they are around decades! EVERYONE has their part to play in this!!!


  • #3070
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭otnomart


    gabeeg wrote: »
    As of two days ago the USA had only performed 25,000 tests.
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/17/us/coronavirus-testing-data.html?auth=linked-google


    Italian company just supplied 500000 tests to the US
    https://www.huffingtonpost.it/entry/da-aviano-al-tennessee-500-mila-test-portati-lunedi-notte-dallitalia-agli-stati-uniti_it_5e733548c5b63c3b648acf0a?


  • #3071
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    You know the UK is in trouble when Piers Morgan is talking sense


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  • #3072
    mick987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


    harr wrote: »
    Heard an FDA official on Bloomberg saying the drug trump was referring to can’t be used as it has not been tested and no Proof it can do anything meaningful.

    The French have used it with very good result( only used on a small number at the moment ) and the British have started using it today.


  • #3073
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,271 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Big surge in cases appears to be linked more to the big surge in testing than anything else. It could take 10 days of increases something like a doubling every three days before it plateaus and the benefits of social restrictions are seen


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112760517&postcount=8989
    These were the figures i guessed over a week ago.


    480 by Thursday after paddy’s
    960 by mothers day.

    Still think we are heading for 1k cases by Mother’s Day but I would like to see the numbers of tests completed, the positives and negatives on a daily basis before we know of its in decline.


  • #3074
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    is_that_so wrote: »
    15,000 without mitigation. There are measures in place so it may not hit that.

    No that's not what he said - this was announced AFTER mitigation.

    My god people will desperately try yo believe what they want to believe.


  • #3075
    dougm1970
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭dougm1970


    currently 18 deaths away from 10,000 deaths worldwide from it
    .


  • #3076
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    MOR316 wrote: »
    "I was out for a jog and guess what?? THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE!!! I cannot believe it! They're not listening!! Stay indoors!!"

    "I went to the shops earlier and there were idiots there. Like, do people not get the stay at home and self isolating thing?"

    The lack of self awareness here...An art gallery
    Is this sarcasm or a rant ? It's really not clear!


  • #3077
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Leo, fg and the outgoing/caretaking government got us into this sh*t. The day the island of Ireland got its first case was the day they should have put a stop to flights coming in from the known European hotspot at the time. There was no quarantine measures either. People were told to self isolate if they show symptoms. They got us into this and the mess that is going to unfold here.

    Ffs.

    Where to start. You do realise that people are still going out and about and to work etc. We're just being more careful and trying to prevent transmissions. We cant just press pause and stop working or leaving the house.

    What's your solution or suggestion? We need to maintain a balance. Absolutely no need for a complete shutdown or lockdown.


  • #3078
    CymbaltaMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭CymbaltaMan


    davemckenna25 wrote: »
    The problem I see with the gloves is the amount of people wearing them but still using their mobile phone, their wallet/purse, hands in pockets, touching face, hands in hair, etc....
    They are only a good idea if used correctly.

    Yes - It's what we typically all do but we are changing slowly.

    Nice smart watch with G'Pay would be hand alternative to using a wallet :pac:


  • #3079
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    pH wrote: »
    No that's not what he said - this was announced AFTER mitigation.

    My god people will desperately try yo believe what they want to believe.
    Holohan says that's without mitigation and that the effect of the measures will not be clear for about another 10 days.


  • #3080
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,802 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Ffs.

    Where to start. You do realise that people are still going out and about and to work etc. We're just being more careful and trying to prevent transmissions. We cant just press pause and stop working or leaving the house.

    What's your solution or suggestion? We need to maintain a balance. Absolutely no need for a complete shutdown or lockdown.

    So what's an acceptable level of mortality in your eyes?


  • #3081
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Boggles wrote: »
    Leo never said that, who has?
    Holohan


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  • #3082
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Jin luk


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Holohan says that's without mitigation and that the effect of the measures will not be clear for about another 10 days.

    Is that so


  • #3083
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,558 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Holohan says that's without mitigation and that the effect of the measures will not be clear for about another 10 days.

    Have you link to that?

    Does he mean without further mitigation?

    Because Leo corrected a reporter who said 10k and Leo said no 15k.


  • #3084
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    deathbomber wrote: »
    We really need to lock down, we are in last chance saloon, some people are not abiding and wandering around in groups and arranging to meet friends, they are indirectly contributing to the spread and ultimately partly responsible for deaths.
    Very positive news emerging about treatments using ant malarials and then some new drugs, we need to grind this out for 4 weeks so we can reduce deaths and start getting these drugs, some of which are already in plentiful supply and very cheap to make because they are around decades! EVERYONE has their part to play in this!!!

    No we dont. Regardless of a complete lockdown the same idiots will continie to do idiotic things.

    I would argue a complete lockdown would put to much pressure on frontline services. It would just be anothet measure they'd have to try and enforce.

    We dont need a complete lockdown. Enough people are already out of work without a total shutdown.


  • #3085
    davemckenna25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    CymbaltaMan wrote: »
    Yes - It's what we typically all do but we are changing slowly.

    Nice smart watch with G'Pay would be hand alternative to using a wallet :pac:

    Or just wear one glove, have a clean hand and dirty hand.
    The dirty hand touches the trolley, doors, etc.. the clean hand for your wallet, phone, scratch your face, etc..
    Slide clean fingers up the inside of the dirty glove to remove.


  • #3086
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,107 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    dan786 wrote: »
    Todays UK Update

    The total number of people in the UK who have contracted COVID-19 is now 3,269 - a rise of 643 in 24 hours. 144 Deaths.

    Erm you mean that have been tested and confirmed


  • #3087
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,138 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Holohan says that's without mitigation and that the effect of the measures will not be clear for about another 10 days.

    They'd better get up to date with the testing so. It is the clearing of backlog that is causing today's massive rise.
    Still loads of people waiting to be tested.


  • #3088
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Jin luk wrote: »
    Is that so
    And you had to bring up the missing question mark!:(


  • #3089
    mohawk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭mohawk


    bb12 wrote: »
    disagree completely esp for people who don't have any sanitiser and are out and about. disposable gloves are a life saver. put them on before leaving the vehicle, do your shopping and dispose of them into bin before hopping back in vehicle. the door handles won't even be infected them.

    i believe the only reason why there is a message against mask wearing is because there are none available to buy. if they don't work why are they mandatory for anyone going outside in china or south korea? anyone i know who works in pharma or biomed tells me to wear masks at all time when venturing outside.

    If wearing them makes you feel better go ahead. All I am saying is that as someone who is actually trained in aseptic technique and how to wear gloves and masks I am seeing most people doing things which makes the gloves and mask practically useless.

    I work in Biopharma so this is the basics to me. I don’t go around telling the general public to buy masks for a few reasons. Most masks are not high enough grade to protect you against viruses, the masks that are high enough grade are needed by the health service and lastly general public don’t know how to correctly put on their masks.


  • #3090
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    mick987 wrote: »
    The French have used it with very good result( only used on a small number at the moment ) and the British have started using it today.

    Trump mentioned a couple of drugs and indeed 1 is still being reviewed however the other 1 as you state is around decades and indeed is very cheap and tests were very positive with people recovering. Trump would love a new US wonder drug to be approved of course for obvious reasons!!


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  • #3091
    c montgomery
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Leo, fg and the outgoing/caretaking government got us into this sh*t. The day the island of Ireland got its first case was the day they should have put a stop to flights coming in from the known European hotspot at the time. There was no quarantine measures either. People were told to self isolate if they show symptoms. They got us into this and the mess that is going to unfold here.

    Get a grip


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