CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

dummy_crusher · 19-03-2020 12:39PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

The population of the US is 300 odd million they have 9000 cases
The population of the Eu is 741 million. 74,000 cases.

Go away

The UK has performed more tests than the US and they have a population of ~66 million...

Source

NOTE: All data is NOT fully up to date, e.g. Ireland test are 1,784 based on data @10/03/2020.

However, both the UK and US data is from 16/03/2020.

EDIT: Link to actual chart.

RugbyLad11 · 19-03-2020 12:40PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

am i the only one who finds the Chinese stats quite frankly, unbelievable?

https://virusncov.com/covid-statistics/china

yet more covering up?

I'm pretty sure they have closed all the temp hospitals in Wuhan, so they are doing something right.

iwillyeah1234 · 19-03-2020 12:41PM

Although Sky News is reporting +209 for Spain

"The death toll in Spain has risen to 767 - up 209 from yesterday."

11:20 newsflash here:
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-china-records-no-new-cases-in-hubei-province-11960005

Rob A. Bank · 19-03-2020 12:41PM

klose wrote: »

You would hope it's the truth, I think most people will be a bit cynical about it given how, well, it's the chinese.

The Brits are not testing those who are sick at home with suspicious symptoms.

The Yanks are not testing enough people to have any idea about their true figures.

The World Health China expert group stated that the Chinese figures are real.

But for you the Chinese figures deserve cynicism ??

Cuckoo7 · 19-03-2020 12:41PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Nephew, his wife, and child live in Spain.
His wife has a permit to go out for groceries, meds, and to walk the dog - he was apparently refused as he has a heart condition (that's his story anyway). He is at home wondering how he will pay his rent and the lease on his business.

Well that’s not exactly like that. You don’t need a permit to go for groceries or to a pharmacy, but you do have to go alone.
There were two exceptions, if you were accompanying an elderly person or someone with special needs. Later they have added minors, meaning you can take your children to the supermarket.

In this article they say that not even to go to work is obligatory to show a permit, although is appreciated by the authorities if you do have one.

https://www.elconfidencial.com/espana/2020-03-17/coronavirus-permiso-estado-alarma_2503099/

woohoo!!! · 19-03-2020 12:42PM

I'd have as much faith in China's figures as the US or UK, the latter two are certainly not testing enough. South Korea's figures and Italian figures are good enough examples and South Korea is the template to aim for.

gabeeg · 19-03-2020 12:42PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

The population of the US is 300 odd million they have 9000 cases
The population of the Eu is 741 million. 74,000 cases.

Go away

As of two days ago the USA had only performed 25,000 tests.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/17/us/coronavirus-testing-data.html?auth=linked-google

So I'm afraid that makes your point entirely moot. Have you got anything else?

is_that_so · 19-03-2020 12:43PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Mortgages are to be frozen. Most people still working. If not then they get 200 euro a week. Buy groceries and wait it out like suggested.

What else do you need the money for? Planning on a new car or a holiday? How about a shopping spree?

I think they've been quite clever with all of the economic stuff, no real surprise from the crafty wonks in the DoF who came up with a cheeky promissory note that put ECB noses out of joint! They've spread the load over a wide range of stakeholders and pushed out required payments of all sorts of little things to a later date. Banks deserve a lot of criticism over present and past activities but they too are stepping up.

iwillyeah1234 · 19-03-2020 12:43PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Germany's stats are a pile of bollix too.

They claim that their total number of deaths due to COVID-19 is 31 but France's total number of deaths is 8.5 times higher even though France has 4000 less confirmed cases.

Another stat that sticks out is that Germany are claiming to only have 2 people in serious, critical condition.

Source. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

yup - the German stats are quite frankly unbelievable too

https://virusncov.com/covid-statistics/germany

Blueshoe · 19-03-2020 12:44PM

gabeeg wrote: »

As of two days ago the USA had only performed 25,000 tests.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/17/us/coronavirus-testing-data.html?auth=linked-google

So I'm afraid that makes your point entirely moot. Have you got anything else?

I didn't mention number of tests. I'm quoting current cases in the US and EU. My point stands. My point is factual. My point is current.

Guessing games from others mean nothing

gabeeg · 19-03-2020 12:46PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

I didn't mention number of tests. I'm quoting current cases in the US and EU. My point stands. My point is factual.

Yes, there are more known cases in the EU than in the US

But given that the US hasn't done as many tests as the EU have cases, it makes your point entirely redundant.

farmchoice · 19-03-2020 12:46PM

walshb wrote: »

To keep on the 25-30 percent prediction rate we are looking at 90 plus today..

these are roughly the figures the government used to get to the projection of 15,000 cases
T17: 292
W18: 389
T19: 589
F20: 682
S21: 923
S22: 1,230
M23: 1,640
T24: 2,187
W25: 2,916
T26: 3,889
F27: 5,185
S28: 6,913
S29: 9,218
M30: 12,290
T31: 16,387
so to get back on track to hit 15000 we would need 223 new cases today.

caveat emptor · 19-03-2020 12:47PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Sure, but think about it, each one of those trucks could transport what, 8 or 10 coffins. There's no way twenty trucks are being used as makeshift hearses. I think journalists who can be a tad eager to hype things up should dial that stuff back. But they won't. It sells.

Do the maths taking your example. Yesterday 475 people died. If each truck takes 10 coffins as you say? I'd say it's more like 6 or 7 if laid out flat.but even using your estimate of ten. Thats the whole of Italy. So not just that town but Bergamo is an epicentre so a video with 10 trucks transporting coffins is not fake news IMHO.

475 / 10 = 47.5 trucks.

I don't think it is an exaggeration at all. People are finding it hard to grasp the scale of this problem. Glad the government is procuring equipment on a grand scale to deal with this. Turning a stadium into a testing centre. Extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures.

BattleCorp · 19-03-2020 12:47PM

farmchoice wrote: »

these are roughly the figures the government used to get to the projection of 15,000 cases
T17: 292
W18: 389
T19: 589
F20: 682
S21: 923
S22: 1,230
M23: 1,640
T24: 2,187
W25: 2,916
T26: 3,889
F27: 5,185
S28: 6,913
S29: 9,218
M30: 12,290
T31: 16,387
so to get back on track to hit 15000 we would need 223 new cases today.

The problem is that we could easily have 223 new cases today but might not know it because of the lag in getting test results back/lack of testing.

Rob A. Bank · 19-03-2020 12:48PM

The coronavirus COVID-19 is affecting 176 countries and territories around the world today.

The UN recognizes 195 countries.

https://virusncov.com/

Sonics2k · 19-03-2020 12:48PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

The population of the US is 300 odd million they have 9000 cases
The population of the Eu is 741 million. 74,000 cases.

Go away

All states of the EU are proactively testing as much as possible. Ireland is about to receive 30,000 additional testing kits. The US in it's entirety has done approximately 25,000 tests.

Might I suggest a small amount of research before you trot in here trying to look smug and telling people to go away.

Trump has done sweet sod all. Two weeks ago he said it was a hoax and not that bad, last night he claimed he always knew how bad it would be. Even Republican Governors are upset with him due to the lack of funds he's providing.

His answer to this crisis has been to send money to people, yknow, instead of actually testing people.

RandomName2 · 19-03-2020 12:49PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

The population of the US is 300 odd million they have 9000 cases
The population of the Eu is 741 million. 74,000 cases.

Go away

Huh?

It doesn't really matter how many cases you have per head of population, it's the trajectory. If you only have 2 cases, but leave it as a free-for-all, you could expect a 100,000 within several weeks. If you have 100,000 cases, but complete lockdown, you could expect a couple of dozen cases within several weeks.

Trump has allowed it to get a foothold, and his response thereafter has been all over the place.

Blueshoe · 19-03-2020 12:49PM

gabeeg wrote: »

Yes, there are more known cases in the EU than in the US

But given that the US hasn't done as many tests as the EU have cases, it makes your point entirely redundant.

Ok whatever suits the orange man bad narrative. If he throws on a hazmat suit and does the testing himself will it count more.

farmchoice · 19-03-2020 12:49PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Do you have a link for that figure of 68K? I seem to see a different figure for flu deaths varying by tens of thousands by different posters for UK/USA/Ireland/EUrope /the world

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285

Harry Palmr · 19-03-2020 12:49PM

I'm watching the UK medical briefing and there is someone (female) who has a rather prominent cough.

Signore Fancy Pants · 19-03-2020 12:50PM

Great to see multiple groups of people running around.

6-7 people in a group, sweating, spitting, coughing and spluttering.

Best of luck c.unts.

iwillyeah1234 · 19-03-2020 12:50PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

The Brits are not testing those who are sick at home with suspicious symptoms.

The Yanks are not testing enough people to have any idea about their true figures.

The World Health China expert group stated that the Chinese figures are real.

But for you the Chinese figures deserve cynicism ??

I find the British stats unbelievable too..
especially with this going on in the London Tube only this morning ( have a look at the pictures):
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8128743/Dozens-London-Underground-stations-close-pandemic.html

farmchoice · 19-03-2020 12:51PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

The problem is that we could easily have 223 new cases today but might not know it because of the lag in getting test results back/lack of testing.

we would need to 223 cases reported today the lag is built into the figures.

Drumpot · 19-03-2020 12:52PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Apple today reopened all Chinese stores and to me that makes me believe their stats are true.

To be fair if the government of any country says it’s ok to stay open or reopen, most companies will open up. I would put that down as evidence that suggests companies believe the Chinese authorities more then it being proof.

Do apple have their own research staff all around China confirming what they are being told?

I’m not saying the Chinese are lieing BTW, I’m saying we should be cautious with their stats and information. They are still run by the same dictator who tried to suppress the virus at the start. They didn’t come clean because they wanted to, they just had to.

pjohnson · 19-03-2020 12:52PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

I didn't mention number of tests. I'm quoting current cases in the US and EU. My point stands. My point is factual. My point is current.

Guessing games from others mean nothing

I dont know anyone that got tested. Therefore I'm going to say that absolutely no one I know has it. I'm quoting current cases. My point stands. My point is factual. My point is current. My point is bigly shíte like yours.

At least blueshoe is bring in the comedy at times like this.

foxyladyxx · 19-03-2020 12:52PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Underlying conditions is such a catch-all. Is a dodgy knee included for instance. Had red hair? I mean who knows what could have contributed to their death. If you take Germany's approach they wouldn't get counted.

It is a respiratory illness. If a patient has asthma, is a smoker or has heart conditions it would make it more likely that they would develope complications.

I had covid19 and still having difficulty in walking any distance. I get out of breath so quickly.

It is easy to understand how this illness could have serious implacations for the elderly.

Achasanai · 19-03-2020 12:53PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

Germany's stats are a pile of bollix too.

They claim that their total number of deaths due to COVID-19 is 31 but France's total number of deaths is 8.5 times higher even though France has 4000 less confirmed cases.

Another stat that sticks out is that Germany are claiming to only have 2 people in serious, critical condition.

Source. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

There's some suggestion that there is a big difference between northern Europe and southern Europe (including France) but not a clear consensus on whether this is due to testing (the UK clearly not doing enough testing would suggest this isn't the reason), a different strain of the virus, or something unknown.

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1240396106917347335

harr · 19-03-2020 12:53PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

The problem is that we could easily have 223 new cases today but might not know it because of the lag in getting test results back/lack of testing.

Yes more than likely have 223 + new cases today but probably not returned tests and all we can go by is the official figure , anything under 100 today would be a good sign but probably should expect to have a big jump probably on Monday. I recon tonight’s figures will 86 and one new death.

is_that_so · 19-03-2020 12:53PM

farmchoice wrote: »

we would need to 223 cases reported today the lag is built into the figures.

Indeed it's not a couple of people with an Excel spreadsheet at work on this.

iwillyeah1234 · 19-03-2020 12:53PM

London tube this MORNING!

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