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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #3062
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Took the dog for a stroll after work and came upon a couple who had randomly decided to park their car in the mountain and were having a game of Frisbee with each other. If one of them has it, then they were literally throwing their germs around the place. :pac: I tried to keep to one side of the road with the dog on a very short lead until I passed them. On the way back, they were still at it and made no attempt to stop their germ throwing so I stopped walking and they eventually moved to one side so we could pass. Commenced the virus throwing again as I was passing and I had to say "distance please!" so yer man could feck off out of my 2m space. Numpties :mad:
    Sorry I mean isn't it so nice to see people out and about enjoying the scenery :p


    Sooooo...

    You're giving out about two people, being outside with each other, both whom you are assuming are carrying the virus, whilst you're outside in the same area as them and you're assuming they're not thinking this about you?

    Right, OK...


  • #3063
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Christ !!! We could be looking at 60/70 K NEW cases a day at that stage...
    They'll have an indication come the end of the month how effective the measures to date are.


  • #3064
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Talk to Joe

    Sincere question, have you any fear at all, that someone would dox you , report you to your job?


  • #3065
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,667 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    That's the median age of infection, not death!

    No its the same thing, don't be ridiculous. We're all going to die


  • #3066
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Huge disparity between different countries

    t3bfdxn


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  • #3067
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,883 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    rob316 wrote: »
    No its the same thing, don't be ridiculous. We're all going to die

    Can't argue with that fact! :p


  • #3068
    bb12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭bb12


    2016 wrote: »
    Think this through - you're wearing the gloves to protect your hands from picking up the virus in the store. So assume this works, you touch something in the store that carries the virus, but it stays off your skin, and you dump the gloves outside the store. Perfect ....

    HOWEVER, everything you touched while wearing the gloves may now be carrying the virus. Your wallet, cards, the outside packaging of everything you purchased. You still need to cleanse everything you touched with the gloves in order for the gloves to protect you.

    That's why medical personnel change their gloves constantly.

    I'm not saying they're useless, they have their place, but....

    you have to disinfect everything you bought either way, at least the gloves are keeping the crap off your hands to begin with.


  • #3069
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    Duke of Url wrote: »
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    In what way is 15,000 a 'worst prediction'

    Here's what Leo Varadkar actually said:

    so far the number of cases in Ireland has been relatively small.

    However, we believe that number will rise to 15,000 cases or more by the end of the month and rise further in the weeks thereafter.

    The vast majority of us who contract Covid-19 will experience a mild illness… but some will be hospitalised and sadly some people will die.

    We cannot stop this virus but working together we can slow it in its tracks and push it back.

    We can, as you have heard by now – flatten the curve. But only if everyone takes sustained action. Nothing less will do.

    From this statement you can also conclude that the official Irish government policy is the same as the Dutch policy (ie the policy the UK abandoned) of flattening the curve and slowing it down (rather than suppression).

    Maybe the Irish government have a different model to the UK one (if they do they haven't shown it to anyone)?


  • #3070
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,719 ✭✭✭celt262


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Leo, fg and the outgoing/caretaking government got us into this sh*t. The day the island of Ireland got its first case was the day they should have put a stop to flights coming in from the known European hotspot at the time. There was no quarantine measures either. People were told to self isolate if they show symptoms. They got us into this and the mess that is going to unfold here.

    I see this type of message popping up on FB from supporters of a party gone into hiding they reckon the country should have been in lockdown before the first case came in but I dont think it announced its arrival.


  • #3071
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Christ !!! We could be looking at 60/70 K NEW cases a day at that stage...

    More than likely not as that would envolve testing 100000+ a day and that wont happen i dont feel


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  • #3072
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    When did Ireland get its first case? You mean 1st positively tested case? At that stage it was too late. In reality, the first case was probably here weeks beforehand. If it was so easily avoided why are there 140+ countries with cases? Are Leo and FG in charge of all those countries too?
    1st March was our first case.


  • #3073
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Sincere question, have you any fear at all, that someone would dox you , report you to your job?

    Report me for what?

    I haven’t broken any laws. Everyone in work knows why I was off. They were asking me how I got on with Cheltenham, I tagged myself in the pub on Facebook each day and was tagged in pics at my aunts 70th.


  • #3074
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    pH wrote: »
    In what way is 15,000 a 'worst prediction'

    Here's what Leo Varadkar actually said:

    so far the number of cases in Ireland has been relatively small.

    However, we believe that number will rise to 15,000 cases or more by the end of the month and rise further in the weeks thereafter.

    The vast majority of us who contract Covid-19 will experience a mild illness… but some will be hospitalised and sadly some people will die.

    We cannot stop this virus but working together we can slow it in its tracks and push it back.

    We can, as you have heard by now – flatten the curve. But only if everyone takes sustained action. Nothing less will do.

    From this statement you can also conclude that the official Irish government policy is the same as the Dutch policy (ie the policy the UK abandoned) of flattening the curve and slowing it down (rather than suppression).

    Maybe the Irish government have a different model to the UK one (if they do they haven't shown it to anyone)?
    15,000 without mitigation. There are measures in place so it may not hit that.


  • #3075
    davemckenna25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭davemckenna25


    bb12 wrote: »
    disagree completely esp for people who don't have any sanitiser and are out and about. disposable gloves are a life saver. put them on before leaving the vehicle, do your shopping and dispose of them into bin before hopping back in vehicle. the door handles won't even be infected them.

    i believe the only reason why there is a message against mask wearing is because there are none available to buy. if they don't work why are they mandatory for anyone going outside in china or south korea? anyone i know who works in pharma or biomed tells me to wear masks at all time when venturing outside.

    The problem I see with the gloves is the amount of people wearing them but still using their mobile phone, their wallet/purse, hands in pockets, touching face, hands in hair, etc....
    They are only a good idea if used correctly.


  • #3076
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,243 ✭✭✭MOR316


    "I was out for a jog and guess what?? THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE!!! I cannot believe it! They're not listening!! Stay indoors!!"

    "I went to the shops earlier and there were idiots there. Like, do people not get the stay at home and self isolating thing?"

    The lack of self awareness here...An art gallery


  • #3077
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,427 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    is_that_so wrote: »
    15,000 without mitigation. There are measures in place so it may not hit that.

    Leo never said that, who has?


  • #3078
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    We really need to lock down, we are in last chance saloon, some people are not abiding and wandering around in groups and arranging to meet friends, they are indirectly contributing to the spread and ultimately partly responsible for deaths.
    Very positive news emerging about treatments using ant malarials and then some new drugs, we need to grind this out for 4 weeks so we can reduce deaths and start getting these drugs, some of which are already in plentiful supply and very cheap to make because they are around decades! EVERYONE has their part to play in this!!!


  • #3079
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    gabeeg wrote: »
    As of two days ago the USA had only performed 25,000 tests.
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/17/us/coronavirus-testing-data.html?auth=linked-google


    Italian company just supplied 500000 tests to the US
    https://www.huffingtonpost.it/entry/da-aviano-al-tennessee-500-mila-test-portati-lunedi-notte-dallitalia-agli-stati-uniti_it_5e733548c5b63c3b648acf0a?


  • #3080
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,040 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    You know the UK is in trouble when Piers Morgan is talking sense
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #3081
    mick987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


    harr wrote: »
    Heard an FDA official on Bloomberg saying the drug trump was referring to can’t be used as it has not been tested and no Proof it can do anything meaningful.

    The French have used it with very good result( only used on a small number at the moment ) and the British have started using it today.


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  • #3082
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,786 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Big surge in cases appears to be linked more to the big surge in testing than anything else. It could take 10 days of increases something like a doubling every three days before it plateaus and the benefits of social restrictions are seen


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112760517&postcount=8989
    These were the figures i guessed over a week ago.


    480 by Thursday after paddy’s
    960 by mothers day.

    Still think we are heading for 1k cases by Mother’s Day but I would like to see the numbers of tests completed, the positives and negatives on a daily basis before we know of its in decline.


  • #3083
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    is_that_so wrote: »
    15,000 without mitigation. There are measures in place so it may not hit that.

    No that's not what he said - this was announced AFTER mitigation.

    My god people will desperately try yo believe what they want to believe.


  • #3084
    dougm1970
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭dougm1970


    currently 18 deaths away from 10,000 deaths worldwide from it
    .


  • #3085
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    MOR316 wrote: »
    "I was out for a jog and guess what?? THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE!!! I cannot believe it! They're not listening!! Stay indoors!!"

    "I went to the shops earlier and there were idiots there. Like, do people not get the stay at home and self isolating thing?"

    The lack of self awareness here...An art gallery
    Is this sarcasm or a rant ? It's really not clear!


  • #3086
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Leo, fg and the outgoing/caretaking government got us into this sh*t. The day the island of Ireland got its first case was the day they should have put a stop to flights coming in from the known European hotspot at the time. There was no quarantine measures either. People were told to self isolate if they show symptoms. They got us into this and the mess that is going to unfold here.

    Ffs.

    Where to start. You do realise that people are still going out and about and to work etc. We're just being more careful and trying to prevent transmissions. We cant just press pause and stop working or leaving the house.

    What's your solution or suggestion? We need to maintain a balance. Absolutely no need for a complete shutdown or lockdown.


  • #3087
    CymbaltaMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭CymbaltaMan


    davemckenna25 wrote: »
    The problem I see with the gloves is the amount of people wearing them but still using their mobile phone, their wallet/purse, hands in pockets, touching face, hands in hair, etc....
    They are only a good idea if used correctly.

    Yes - It's what we typically all do but we are changing slowly.

    Nice smart watch with G'Pay would be hand alternative to using a wallet :pac:


  • #3088
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    pH wrote: »
    No that's not what he said - this was announced AFTER mitigation.

    My god people will desperately try yo believe what they want to believe.
    Holohan says that's without mitigation and that the effect of the measures will not be clear for about another 10 days.


  • #3089
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Ffs.

    Where to start. You do realise that people are still going out and about and to work etc. We're just being more careful and trying to prevent transmissions. We cant just press pause and stop working or leaving the house.

    What's your solution or suggestion? We need to maintain a balance. Absolutely no need for a complete shutdown or lockdown.

    So what's an acceptable level of mortality in your eyes?


  • #3090
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Boggles wrote: »
    Leo never said that, who has?
    Holohan


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  • #3091
    Jin luk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Holohan says that's without mitigation and that the effect of the measures will not be clear for about another 10 days.

    Is that so


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