CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Sierra Oscar · 19-03-2020 07:12PM

dockysher wrote: »

Going be massive jump in numbers in next few days. After last weekend with all pubs, restaurants packed

True and there has been a significant increase in the number being tested too.

More than a third of new cases are community transmissions according to George Lee.

donfers · 19-03-2020 07:12PM

why such a big jump?

Is it more testing?

191 is the equivalent of 2500 to 3000 in one of big European countries. Difficult to explain

Sittingpretty · 19-03-2020 07:12PM

Presuming the huge rise is owing to many many more being tested.

They said 15000 by end March.

namloc1980 · 19-03-2020 07:12PM

obi604 wrote: »

What % is it?

52%.

Chardee MacDennis · 19-03-2020 07:12PM

Any idea of how many tests were run today compared to yesterday?

Hobgoblin11 · 19-03-2020 07:12PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Look we are all going to die of some day

Friday or Saturday will never kill me

Inquitus · 19-03-2020 07:12PM

It's a factor of increased testing and increased infection, it will probably continue to jump sharply for a few days as those factors flow into firm the numbers.

threeball · 19-03-2020 07:12PM

efanton wrote: »

I'm going to throw something mad out there, but I'm wondering has this been considered by the experts.

We know this virus is going to shut down the country for many months. I understand the strategy is to slow the infection rate so that the health services do not get inundated or over loaded. But slowing down the infection rate obviously make the crisis last longer.
Eventually everyone, or at least the vast majority, will have been infected most not requiring any medical attention but for those who do the health services will be able to manage as the demand on the health service will be spread over a longer time period.

Here the mad idea
This is based on the premise that once someone has fully recovered from the virus and been quarantined for two weeks they can no longer pass the infection on, nor get the virus a second time. As far as what I have read this appears to be the case.

Surely the smart thing to do is for those that live alone, or can safely self isolate, and are perfectly healthy and also have almost no risk of the virus killing them be deliberately infected. Yes, DELIBERATELY INFECTED but isolated for two weeks so that they cannot pass on the virus unintentionally.
Once that's done those people can carry on normally, return to their jobs and businesses.

Surely the more people who get through having the virus and recovering the quicker life can get back to normal.

Now I do not profess to have any medical qualification. I'm sure there's a few here that do have the necessary background to shoot this down in flames because I have misunderstood something. If that's the case, then please do so.

But it has always baffled me why in any other type of crisis the aim is to get through it by any means as quickly as possible.
but then when dealing with a virus do we do the complete opposite and drag it out as long as possible. I get that we have to prevent hospital and health service overload, but if you can get perfectly healthy people through it surely a recovery would be much quicker.

They'd be better going this route. Infect the low risk and get to social immunity through this route. Everyone high risk gets a pass and has to completely quarantine for a month. People have been asked to do much worse

stephenjmcd · 19-03-2020 07:12PM

People were nearly disappointed on here last night with the low number.

Now its panic stations again.

This was expected, so no need for people to blow this out of the water

Quantum Erasure · 19-03-2020 07:12PM

if you take 30 off of todays and add them to yesterdays, it follows the trend

peasant · 19-03-2020 07:12PM

Don't forget that the new test criteria just kicked in..a rise in detection is to be expected...more tests, more cases

Andrew00 · 19-03-2020 07:12PM

84 associated with health care workers. Wow

Signore Fancy Pants · 19-03-2020 07:13PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

The figure will be 45 with a +/- margin of error of 2

You were close.

Now keep your shyte for the toilet in the future.

fullstop · 19-03-2020 07:13PM

At least the moany pricks giving out about Leo’s predicton and us having nowhere near as many cases as that might change the record now.

This is it · 19-03-2020 07:13PM

Is that right, 191 today? Christ.

Where's Blueshoe and his "45", shows how much bollox is posted here, not that anyone took it seriously.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 19-03-2020 07:13PM

efanton wrote: »

I'm going to throw something mad out there, but I'm wondering has this been considered by the experts.

We know this virus is going to shut down the country for many months. I understand the strategy is to slow the infection rate so that the health services do not get inundated or over loaded. But slowing down the infection rate obviously make the crisis last longer.
Eventually everyone, or at least the vast majority, will have been infected most not requiring any medical attention but for those who do the health services will be able to manage as the demand on the health service will be spread over a longer time period.

Here the mad idea
This is based on the premise that once someone has fully recovered from the virus and been quarantined for two weeks they can no longer pass the infection on, nor get the virus a second time. As far as what I have read this appears to be the case.

Surely the smart thing to do is for those that live alone, or can safely self isolate, and are perfectly healthy and also have almost no risk of the virus killing them be deliberately infected. Yes, DELIBERATELY INFECTED but isolated for two weeks so that they cannot pass on the virus unintentionally.
Once that's done those people can carry on normally, return to their jobs and businesses.

Surely the more people who get through having the virus and recovering the quicker life can get back to normal.

Now I do not profess to have any medical qualification. I'm sure there's a few here that do have the necessary background to shoot this down in flames because I have misunderstood something. If that's the case, then please do so.

But it has always baffled me why in any other type of crisis the aim is to get through it by any means as quickly as possible.
but then when dealing with a virus do we do the complete opposite and drag it out as long as possible. I get that we have to prevent hospital and health service overload, but if you can get perfectly healthy people through it surely a recovery would be much quicker.

Okay... but you go first!

stephenjmcd · 19-03-2020 07:13PM

threeball wrote: »

They'd be better going this route. Infect the low risk and get to social immunity through this route. Everyone high risk gets a pass and has to completely quarantine for a month. People have been asked to do much worse

Absolute stone wall crazy.

Go back to bed Boris

This is it · 19-03-2020 07:13PM

Signore Fancy Pants wrote: »

You were close.

Now keep your shyte for the toilet in the future.

Talking shyte the whole thread.

spookwoman · 19-03-2020 07:13PM

https://twitter.com/CovidIreland/status/1240702772183314432?s=20

PmMeUrDogs · 19-03-2020 07:13PM

191, Jesus. That's an enormous jump. I was hoping it would remain low like yesterday.

trapp · 19-03-2020 07:13PM

Reading too much into statistics from one day is ridiculous.

Last night was great because only 74 now terrible because 191.

Data can only be analysed over a long period of time.

Safe to say most people on here haven't a clue.

More fool those that listen to them.

obi604 · 19-03-2020 07:13PM

wakka12 wrote: »

About 80 or so

Feck.

bennyl10 · 19-03-2020 07:13PM

We are always going to see increases.
We won’t see any results of the measures for at least 2 weeks.(about 10ish days from now)

They’re expecting 15000 by the end Of the month.

Let’s keep perspective.

Larbre34 · 19-03-2020 07:14PM

This is it wrote: »

Is that right, 191 today? Christ.

Where's Blueshoe and his "45", shows how much bollox is posted here, not that anyone took it seriously.

I hear he has it.

No not really.

bennyl10 · 19-03-2020 07:14PM

obi604 wrote: »

Feck.

It’s not 80
It’s not remotely near 80%

It’s an increase of 52%

Spanish Eyes · 19-03-2020 07:15PM

Most of that increase could be from idiots coming back from Cheltenham, and the FaceBook warriors in the Supermarket meltdown last Thursday.

But if not, and it may be too early to tell admittedly, there could be another huge spike soon.

Most of us are begging for a lockdown now. Well I am anyway because many people are just total idiots right now. Not all, but the actions of the few affect the many.

Shelga · 19-03-2020 07:15PM

efanton wrote: »

I'm going to throw something mad out there, but I'm wondering has this been considered by the experts.

We know this virus is going to shut down the country for many months. I understand the strategy is to slow the infection rate so that the health services do not get inundated or over loaded. But slowing down the infection rate obviously make the crisis last longer.
Eventually everyone, or at least the vast majority, will have been infected most not requiring any medical attention but for those who do the health services will be able to manage as the demand on the health service will be spread over a longer time period.

Here the mad idea
This is based on the premise that once someone has fully recovered from the virus and been quarantined for two weeks they can no longer pass the infection on, nor get the virus a second time. As far as what I have read this appears to be the case.

Surely the smart thing to do is for those that live alone, or can safely self isolate, and are perfectly healthy and also have almost no risk of the virus killing them be deliberately infected. Yes, DELIBERATELY INFECTED but isolated for two weeks so that they cannot pass on the virus unintentionally.
Once that's done those people can carry on normally, return to their jobs and businesses.

Surely the more people who get through having the virus and recovering the quicker life can get back to normal.

Now I do not profess to have any medical qualification. I'm sure there's a few here that do have the necessary background to shoot this down in flames because I have misunderstood something. If that's the case, then please do so.

But it has always baffled me why in any other type of crisis the aim is to get through it by any means as quickly as possible.
but then when dealing with a virus do we do the complete opposite and drag it out as long as possible. I get that we have to prevent hospital and health service overload, but if you can get perfectly healthy people through it surely a recovery would be much quicker.

I would absolutely do this- try to get infected deliberately and "get it over with" if there was hard evidence that this grants immunity.

It doesn't; there have been multiple cases of reinfections.

amadangomor · 19-03-2020 07:15PM

FutureGuy wrote: »

Does this correlate with testing increases?

Yes, I'd imagine so.

People need to temper the over reaction to the figures.

The figures massively depend on the rate of testing and that jumped earlier this week and the results are coming in now.

threeball · 19-03-2020 07:15PM

kwestfan08 wrote: »

So whenever cases are near zero and all the restrictions are lifted, then what? Go about normally until it flares up again and back to social distancing. Rinse and repeat until a vaccine in late 2021?

Yes, thats the plan

enda1 · 19-03-2020 07:15PM

Takes 2-3 days to get results, many (most?) GPs closed Tuesday. More testing came online Monday. So no suprise to see a big increase, and likely up to 350/day or so like the CMO predicts by the weekend.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP