CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Beasty · 19-03-2020 01:15AM

little bess wrote: »

I joined the end of the queue and left two meters between me and the person in front of me, and then neck breather stood behind me. So I moved forward a bit and he moved too, I moved a bit again and so did he. I felt like running out of there.

I would have no hesitation telling them and informing them it was for their good as well as yours. If no-one tells them they will continue. Once they are told they are much less likely to do it to someone else

Goldengirl · 19-03-2020 01:15AM

jamesf85 wrote: »

Anyone can get it but it's mainly older people, particularly with other health issues, that are getting critically ill from it.

Yes ..but also ..There are health workers with no underlying conditions getting very sick with it, and younger people who are in at risk categories ill as well.

ACitizenErased · 19-03-2020 01:16AM

Denmark seems to have stopped the spread a little? Just 80 new cases today.

Cilldara_2000 · 19-03-2020 01:17AM

wakka12 wrote: »

No proof of it, I was just saying it may be the case. The idea that they are catching all the mild cases doesnt really hold up as reasoning as South Korea have tested far more people per capita and the largest number of any country in the world by far and still have a death rate of 1%.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-why-does-germany-have-so-few-covid-19-deaths

I see. I don’t know either. A lot of posters appear certain though.

Klonker · 19-03-2020 01:18AM

fr336 wrote: »

My (Irish) parents living here in England (nearish London!) are driving me up the wall. They're both 70, underlying health conditions (not as bad as some, no heart attacks, but underlying heart issues and asthma). They've promised they will stop going out to shop from this Saturday, when the government here is likely to recommend everyone over 70 self isolates. I keep saying to them that by then it might be too late, the virus is here, it's getting worse day by day and they may pick it up today, or tomorrow. It may be unlikely but it could very well happen in a busy supermarket in a busy town in the south east of the country. It's pure stubborness because they (understandably) don't want to self isolate at all. The government don't have a crystal ball saying "all is well until Saturday", that's just when they might happen to bring in the curfew! So frustrating but as the only child I doubt I will win this battle which has been going on for a few weeks now to varying degrees.

Lock them into the house and nail the doors shut.

Being serious though, a lot of people are having similar problems and there's a thread in this forum on that very issue that might be helpful to you.

It must be very hard on the old change their habits at this stage, especially for such a strange reason that a lot of us still can't really believe is real and are waiting to wake up and it all to just been a nightmare.

Cilldara_2000 · 19-03-2020 01:18AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Denmark seems to have stopped the spread a little? Just 80 new cases today.

I wouldn’t make any conclusion based on single day on day comparisons.

poppers · 19-03-2020 01:18AM

Goldengirl wrote: »

What Dr Henry was saying about the glitches in the system are true.
People referred for testing last week have still not been tested as of today .
Their GP has been on to the service to check why and tests were somehow allocated to one of the new test centres , that haven't started testing yet.
Test kits arriving tonight and should get going tomorrow.
These people are waiting a week , and probably many like them.
So expect a big rise in cases in the next few days .

Of course, Dr Ciara Kelly was tested within 24 hours ! While I don't mind that if she was unwell , it annoys me that others similarly unwell are left hanging.

Yes all working on the frontline are amazing , people are pulling together volunteering and socially distancing, but the HSE are not being straight here , just like they weren't straight about the fact that people were in the community with the virus and that they could spread it when they were asymptomatic .
We should have been quarantining all from infected countries 3 weeks ago and testing for community spread from the first confirmed community case.

With no treatment available im sure suspect case are treated the same as confirmed cases. Just cause you havent been positively diagnosed doesnt reduce your chances of getting better

darjeeling · 19-03-2020 01:19AM

Klonker wrote: »

We will lockdown but the experts think its too early. How long do you expect us to be in lockdown? For example the experts may be expecting the peak in about 6 weeks so expecting people to be in lockdown for 6-8 weeks would be very difficult. No point locking down now, figures slowly increasing at manageable level, come out after 4 weeks then surge crazily.

Timing is important and we need to trust the experts but a lockdown will occur, I've no doubt.

There's some very mixed messaging coming from governments in Europe, especially in the UK.

If they're talking about a peak with a lockdown a few weeks either side, then that means managing the epidemic so that it runs slower than it would if left to rip, but still results in 50% or more people being infected. And the figures from modelling by the expert group at Imperial the other day showed that that would still result in huge numbers of deaths.

So if we're not going to do that, and we actually want to keep a tight lid on this disease, then that would require a very different approach. We would need to drive down the number of people infected and keep the number as low as possible until a vaccine is available some time next year.

For that to work we'd need to get a lot smarter, and copy what China and S Korea are doing. We'd have to do lots of testing and do it quickly to identify cases and isolate them early. We'd also need IT solutions to inform people quickly if they've come into contact with someone infected, and we'd need to get these contacts to isolate too. There's a loss of privacy to contend with, but the alternative is just to be on repeated lockdowns every few weeks until a vaccine is finally available.

Goldengirl · 19-03-2020 01:19AM

threeball wrote: »

I don't think you can level that accusation here to be honest. If you understand the strategy then it seems to be going very well so far. Unless this thing absolute explodes between now and Sunday I think we're right on track.

It will explode once the centres start testing .

Stheno · 19-03-2020 01:19AM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes ..but also ..There are health workers with no underlying conditions getting very sick with it, and younger people who are in at risk categories ill as well.

I think someone said that's due to their level of exposure

If you are working on a covid19 ward 10 hours a day, even with PPE that's a lot of exposure

Add stress and tiredness to that

05eaftqbrs9jlh · 19-03-2020 01:19AM

Gods Gift wrote: »

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wakka12 · 19-03-2020 01:20AM

Ireland must actually have one of the higher number of cases per capita in the world now

19-03-2020 01:21AM

Axel Square Simulator wrote: »

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Coronavexit.

Jinglejangle69 · 19-03-2020 01:21AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Denmark seems to have stopped the spread a little? Just 80 new cases today.

No no no.

It doesn't work like that.

ACitizenErased · 19-03-2020 01:24AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Ireland must actually have one of the higher number of cases per capita in the world now

Ireland has the 32nd highest cases per 1 million in the world.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Macdarack · 19-03-2020 01:25AM

Gods Gift wrote: »

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Gonzovision · 19-03-2020 01:25AM

Waiting since last Friday to get an appointment for a test.

JP Liz V1 · 19-03-2020 01:26AM

Has Claire Byrne been tested?

wakka12 · 19-03-2020 01:27AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Ireland has the 32nd highest cases per 1 million in the world.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Interesting, didnt notice the per capita row on worldometres before.
Good bit higher than 32nd place if you take out the silly ones like Vatican city , St.Barth, Faroe Islands, Monsterrat that only have a tiny number of cases but a huge number per capita because the population is so small

Stheno · 19-03-2020 01:28AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Interesting, didnt notice the per capita row on worldometres before.
Good bit higher than 32nd place if you take out the silly ones like Vatican city , St.Barth, Faroe Islands, Monsterrat that only have a tiny number of cases but a huge number per capita because the population is so small

What about Germany though?

pH · 19-03-2020 01:28AM

darjeeling wrote: »

There's some very mixed messaging coming from governments in Europe, especially in the UK.

If they're talking about a peak with a lockdown a few weeks either side, then that means managing the epidemic so that it runs slower than it would if left to rip, but still results in 50% or more people being infected. And the figures from modelling by the expert group at Imperial the other day showed that that would still result in huge numbers of deaths.

So if we're not going to do that, and we actually want to keep a tight lid on this disease, then that would require a very different approach. We would need to drive down the number of people infected and keep the number as low as possible until a vaccine is available some time next year.

For that to work we'd need to get a lot smarter, and copy what China and S Korea are doing. We'd have to do lots of testing and do it quickly to identify cases and isolate them early. We'd also need IT solutions to inform people quickly if they've come into contact with someone infected, and we'd need to get these contacts to isolate too. There's a loss of privacy to contend with, but the alternative is just to be on repeated lockdowns every few weeks until a vaccine is finally available.

Or isolate the the country with a 14 day quarantine period for all people entering the country.

The problem is you're really saying "if you gave us another chance and slipped 5 cases into the county we'd get them this time for sure." I guess once bitten twice shy, we'd certainly take it far more seriously next time and lock down sooner but if the virus is out there in the world, and there are flights coming in to the country every day as before, the models suggest 6 weeks and we're back in another outbreak the same size again.

littlemac1980 · 19-03-2020 01:31AM

Totally off topic here but:

What’s the longest thread on Boards history, I’m thinking this one will end up shattering records?

Westernyelp · 19-03-2020 01:32AM

Gods Gift wrote:

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10000maniacs · 19-03-2020 01:33AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Interesting, didnt notice the per capita row on worldometres before.
Good bit higher than 32nd place if you take out the silly ones like Vatican city , St.Barth, Faroe Islands, Monsterrat that only have a tiny number of cases but a huge number per capita because the population is so small

The Cheltenham and Premiership match watching idiots did it for us. They knew there was a deadly virus out there and still did it.

Goldengirl · 19-03-2020 01:33AM

poppers wrote: »

With no treatment available im sure suspect case are treated the same as confirmed cases. Just cause you havent been positively diagnosed doesnt reduce your chances of getting better

What do you mean ? She was suspected until she was tested 24 hours later!
These people that are waiting are suspected until confirmed too , but until they get tested their contacts , who may be becoming infectious are not restricted.
Not everyone infectious has symptoms and the quicker cases are confirmed and contacts restricted , the less likely it is that this virus will spread.

Westernyelp · 19-03-2020 01:34AM

JP Liz V1 wrote:

Has Claire Byrne been tested?

Yes. She's FINE

PTH2009 · 19-03-2020 01:35AM

How did a baby get it ??

Saw there was 1 case her in the age range of <1

ACitizenErased · 19-03-2020 01:35AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

How did a baby get it ??

Saw there was 1 case her in the age range of <1

There's been some cases of it being inherited at birth.

Westernyelp · 19-03-2020 01:36AM

ACitizenErased wrote:

There's been some cases of it being inherited at birth.

I think it's more likely picked up in the birth canal from what I have read.

joeguevara · 19-03-2020 01:38AM

10000maniacs wrote: »

The Cheltenham and Premiership match watching idiots did it for us. They knew there was a deadly virus out there and still did it.

Unfortunately Cheltenham people only returned about 5 days ago. Huge amounts in Pubs/clubs etc culminating in Temple Bar last weekend. These probably haven’t washed through. I hope I am wrong. I also wonder how the medical staff will be able to keep going.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP