CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

tikkahunter · 19-03-2020 12:36AM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

More dense I guess and bigger populations.

Have to say I was very impressed today observeing social distancing in action on the street, in shops and chemists. Think Leo's speech last night got through.

A lot more people wearing masks today.

We have plenty of spaces and open parks etc. I don't think we need to take such a harsh approach although I believe cafes and restaurants should be shut.

The teenagers are the biggest downfall , lots of gangs of them floating about , parents need to put the foot down

elperello · 19-03-2020 12:36AM

marilynrr wrote: »

There's a thread further down about trying to convince elderly parents to stay in when they don't want to.
Some of them just aren't afraid of the risk, and would rather keep living their life rather than risk being isolated and lonely and possibly dying anyway due to another age related issue.

With a lot of older people the car becomes a sort of talisman for their independence.

If they are still driving they often feel better about their lives and have a fear of giving it up.

Could be why they are making sure to have the licence in time.

BLIZZARD7 · 19-03-2020 12:36AM

40 stations in London Underground Closed from tomorrow - Sky News

Thelonious Monk · 19-03-2020 12:37AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Of course but like the goal here is to stop mass infection which cripples the healthcare system, not completely stop all new infections, it is unfeasible. Dog walkers, people just doing some shopping, are a tiny contribution to the overall growth of coronavirus cases. The main growth is busy workplaces where nobody cleaned hands, packed pubs, clubs, busy events and mass gatherings, schools, colleges, all of which are gone . I would imagine the vast majority of growth has been curtailed with these measures and completely locking people inside is just overboard and will have diminishing returns

I still don't understand why our approach is different to France and Spain.

drunkmonkey · 19-03-2020 12:38AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

But surely we're headed that way if we don't up the ante?

To quote....

“Throughout history, denial has yielded to reality in stages—and usually too late, according to Galli, who helps oversee the fight against infectious diseases in Lombardy, the region around Italy’s financial capital, Milan. “There’s a first phase, in which you elbow it away, saying, ‘Our neighbor has it, ah, scary, but he’s got it.’ Then there’s the phase in which you realize it’s arrived in your house and you deny it, ‘No it’s impossible!’ ” Galli said on Italy’s La7 television network on March 5. Next comes a tug of war in which inhabitants debate harsh preventive measures that are, tragically, reduced or taken too late.
“Finally, there’s the phase of total ruin, in which the sickness runs rampant,”

From Bloomberg article today, Life in Italian Lockdown After a Tragic Coronavirus Denial https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-03-18/this-is-life-in-italy-during-the-coronavirus-lockdown?srnd=premium-europe

I don’t think we should hesitate.

weldoninhio · 19-03-2020 12:39AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Why not? Do you think the French and Spanish approach is wrong? I don't really know what we should be doing but I don't get why we're being lax about it and they're on total lockdown.

We’ll wait until the numbers ramp up here, then have a lock down, well after the horse has bolted.

tikkahunter · 19-03-2020 12:39AM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

40 stations in London Underground Closed from tomorrow - Sky News

Borris has made some bollox of it

YFlyer · 19-03-2020 12:39AM

Gods Gift wrote: »

If any females want to send me their hot photos, send them on and I’ll have a look at them for ye. Xxx

Reminds of the t-shirt. I'm not a gynecologists, but I'll have a look.

Baseball72 · 19-03-2020 12:40AM

Watching Boris on TV earlier - he really looks worried/frightened. The enormity / scale of COVID-19 just seems to have dawned on him today. I hope they get things right in the coming days for their sake - and ours.

tobefrank321 · 19-03-2020 12:41AM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I thought Italy would turn a corner, but no, it's only getting worse FFS. Why is it killing so many there? Why is it still spreading more and more regardless

Italy really is the perfect storm.
There's likely at least 100,000 cases there.
The lockdown came far too late.
Elderly population.
High level of smoking among older males.

On the plus side in another week or two numbers of cases will start to fall although deaths may remain in the hundreds daily.

Gods Gift · 19-03-2020 12:42AM

YFlyer wrote: »

Reminds of the t-shirt. I'm not a gynecologists, but I'll have a look.

Ah once you’ve seen 1 you’ve seen them all.

dougm1970 · 19-03-2020 12:43AM

so..nearly 1000 people have died in one day today worldwide from this.
america is closing in on 10,000 cases (currently 9,236)...with 150 people dead there.
over 100 people dead now in uk....and nearly 3000 dead in italy (soon will have more dead than china, who have 3,237)
germany had almost 3000 new cases today, but only 2 deaths.

tobefrank321 · 19-03-2020 12:43AM

tikkahunter wrote: »

Borris has made some bollox of it

Completely reactionary like many western governments. Only act when its too late to actually solve the problem. And act only to mitigate their mistakes.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 19-03-2020 12:47AM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Busy workplaces are not gone. Not at all

I'm working all this week in a 'non essential' business. Come into contact with roughly 70+ different people each and every day.

My boss will not close yet.

Technophobe · 19-03-2020 12:47AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

We’ll wait until the numbers ramp up here, then have a lock down, well after the horse has bolted.

Are you still in the pub??

Jeff2 · 19-03-2020 12:47AM

Seems prime time on RTE was filmed with audience.

Gods Gift · 19-03-2020 12:48AM

Horse racing suspended in Uk until end of April.

Why are they so special here.

tuxy · 19-03-2020 12:48AM

Jeff2 wrote: »

Seems prime time on RTE was filmed with audience.

We must be over it so, everything back to normal.

Cody montana · 19-03-2020 12:49AM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

40 stations in London Underground Closed from tomorrow - Sky News

How is that meant to work?
Are they closing down lines or busy central stations?

19-03-2020 12:49AM

Zavier Future Goth wrote: »

I'm working all this week in a 'non essential' business. Come into contact with roughly 70+ different people each and every day.

My boss will not close yet.

wear a mask, and a good one at that, also latex gloves, and make no apology for it.

Blueshoe · 19-03-2020 12:49AM

Zavier Future Goth wrote: »

I'm working all this week in a 'non essential' business. Come into contact with roughly 70+ different people each and every day.

My boss will not close yet.

Same as

jamesf85 · 19-03-2020 12:49AM

bekker wrote: »

The other shoe has finally dropped.

Two thirds of cases are younger than 55, with almost one in four people with the virus aged between 35 and 44.
Irish Examiner - this evening.

This is NOT restricted to over 65s.

Anyone can get it but it's mainly older people, particularly with other health issues, that are getting critically ill from it.

gabeeg · 19-03-2020 12:50AM

There isn't a single government in Europe that has handled this well.

Some worse than others, but all wasted large amounts of precious time.

threeball · 19-03-2020 12:50AM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Horse racing suspended in Uk until end of April.

Why are they so special here.

Cos they're a bunch of cnuts. They should pull all their funding and split it as a bonus for health workers.

Harry Palmr · 19-03-2020 12:50AM

dougm1970 wrote: »

so..nearly 1000 people have died in one day today worldwide from this.
america is closing in on 10,000 cases (currently 9,236)...with 150 people dead there.
over 100 people dead now in uk....and nearly 3000 dead in italy (soon will have more dead than china, who have 3,237)
germany had almost 3000 new cases today, but only 2 deaths.

from the times (of London) the bit which is not behind the paywall.

Virologists are perplexed as to why Germany’s stated death rate from Covid-19 is far lower than in other countries.

Germany has 9,877 confirmed cases as of today with 26 deaths, representing a fatality rate of 0.26 percent, compared rates of 3.7 per cent in the UK and 7.9 per cent in Italy.

Richard Pebody, the High Threat Pathogens Infectious Hazard Management team leader at the World Health Organisation Regional Office for Europe, said the difference could be due to differences in counting cases or in the actual quality of treatment.

19-03-2020 12:51AM

gabeeg wrote: »

There isn't a single government in Europe that has handled this well.

Some worse than others, but all wasted large amounts of precious time.

Poland in fairness were very proactive early on.

YFlyer · 19-03-2020 12:51AM

Gods Gift wrote: »

Ah once you’ve seen 1 you’ve seen them all.

Subtle difference though.

BorneTobyWilde · 19-03-2020 12:51AM

Handling it well in the future if it were to happen again, is locking down what every country it is, no one leaves, and then the world helps that country asap.

Klonker · 19-03-2020 12:52AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I still don't understand why our approach is different to France and Spain.

We will lockdown but the experts think its too early. How long do you expect us to be in lockdown? For example the experts may be expecting the peak in about 6 weeks so expecting people to be in lockdown for 6-8 weeks would be very difficult. No point locking down now, figures slowly increasing at manageable level, come out after 4 weeks then surge crazily.

Timing is important and we need to trust the experts but a lockdown will occur, I've no doubt.

froog · 19-03-2020 12:53AM

for all the talk of china and other countries hiding figures, it appears germany of all countries are the ones doing it.

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