CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

gabeeg wrote: »

There isn't a single government in Europe that has handled this well.

Some worse than others, but all wasted large amounts of precious time.

I don't think you can level that accusation here to be honest. If you understand the strategy then it seems to be going very well so far. Unless this thing absolute explodes between now and Sunday I think we're right on track.

froog wrote: »

for all the talk of china and other countries hiding figures, it appears germany of all countries are the ones doing it.

Germany are the backbone of Europe. Not a chance they'd hide figures like that.

The One Doctor wrote: »

Germany are the backbone of Europe. Not a chance they'd hide figures like that.

They aren't counting people with comorbitities as CV19 deaths. Its massaging the numbers.

fr336 wrote: »

My (Irish) parents living here in England (nearish London!) are driving me up the wall. They're both 70, underlying health conditions (not as bad as some, no heart attacks, but underlying heart issues and asthma). They've promised they will stop going out to shop from this Saturday, when the government here is likely to recommend everyone over 70 self isolates. I keep saying to them that by then it might be too late, the virus is here, it's getting worse day by day and they may pick it up today, or tomorrow. It may be unlikely but it could very well happen in a busy supermarket in a busy town in the south east of the country. It's pure stubborness because they (understandably) don't want to self isolate at all. The government don't have a crystal ball saying "all is well until Saturday", that's just when they might happen to bring in the curfew! So frustrating but as the only child I doubt I will win this battle which has been going on for a few weeks now to varying degrees.

Do the shopping for them or get it delivered.

You are right if the people in the shops are not taking precautions your parents will be at risk.

If there's a positive from today's figures its the lower age profile which will mean less severe cases and potentially icu admissions. Cocooning of the elderly is working so far but we can't get complacent.

codie wrote: »

He even came out today and said covid 19 won't delay brexit. Like get things into perspective Borris
20000 deaths would be a good result and Borris talks Brexit

He has to get Brexit, done, then he can or will focus on getting Covid, done. Simples!!

Is there any reliable source for this claim about Germany that has now gone viral here? Not seeing it reported anywhere after a rather brief google search.

The One Doctor wrote: »

Germany are the backbone of Europe. Not a chance they'd hide figures like that.

Not necessarily 'hiding' but just a different method of evaluating deaths that may misrepresent the scale of the issue.
Its pretty much impossible that the death rate is as low as 0.2% in Germany in reality, an illness as mild as that would not be able to cause the issues in the Chinese and Italian healthcare systems that it has had

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

He has to get Brexit, done, then he can or will focus on getting Covid, done. Simples!!

Hope it all works out for him

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Couldn't agree more. While tonight's numbers are good that we didn't break over 30% we're a long way from being out of the wood and this has to keep being drilled into people.

But the government and the whole of the civil service are playing an absolute blinder. They come in for alot of stick but they've put an unreal shift in so far.

The general public following the advice they are given also helps.

Dr Tony also said tonight they've noticed people are keeping track of the close contacts they have had in the event of being contacted by the HSE, this is speeding up the contact tracing, its something we should all aim to do

What Dr Henry was saying about the glitches in the system are true.
People referred for testing last week have still not been tested as of today .
Their GP has been on to the service to check why and tests were somehow allocated to one of the new test centres , that haven't started testing yet.
Test kits arriving tonight and should get going tomorrow.
These people are waiting a week , and probably many like them.
So expect a big rise in cases in the next few days .

Of course, Dr Ciara Kelly was tested within 24 hours ! While I don't mind that if she was unwell , it annoys me that others similarly unwell are left hanging.

Yes all working on the frontline are amazing , people are pulling together volunteering and socially distancing, but the HSE are not being straight here , just like they weren't straight about the fact that people were in the community with the virus and that they could spread it when they were asymptomatic .
We should have been quarantining all from infected countries 3 weeks ago and testing for community spread from the first confirmed community case.

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Source?

No proof of it, I was just saying it may be the case. The idea that they are catching all the mild cases doesnt really hold up as reasoning as South Korea have tested far more people per capita and the largest number of any country in the world by far and still have a death rate of 1%.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-why-does-germany-have-so-few-covid-19-deaths

Giovanni Maga from CNR told Euronews that in Italy a person who tested positive while alive or post-mortem is counted as a coronavirus-death. "I don't know if Germany or France follow the same criteria," he noted.