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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #9062
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,583 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    greenfield21 wrote: »
    They are now relying on these countries for crucial supplies, why wouldn't he bring this up especially if this crisis persists. Strategic importance and removing complex supply chains along with having that expertise and knowledge back home would be huge win for America. Also the US has the most expensive meds in the world and the likes of Ireland are clearly faciliting this through their tax games on patented products.

    What can he do about it now? Fit out new factories and labs in the midst of this crisis? He should have done it 4 years ago if he was going to do it at all.
    His problem is he is always looking for scapegoats to deflect his contradictions whether it is the Irish, The EU or the Chinese.
    Trump is a waste of carbon.


  • #9063
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Herd Immunity is playing Russian Roulette.

    That's it in a nutshell. Its overly complicated, hugely expensive, impossible to properly enforce - you'd want a police officer patrolling every elder person's home, and you'd have to isolate older people when they need to go to hospital which they will.

    The only viable approach is the one used by 99% of countries at the moment - slow the virus, hope not too many elderly are affected, allow a very slow controlled spread which does not overwhelm health services and try to eliminate it from areas. Anyone who is infected and cured should be trained up in medical services, testing, etc.

    Our best hope is a vaccine or treatment for the symptoms. I'd like to see companies and governments working together on this. At the moment they seem to be engaged in a competition to come up with a vaccine which is the wrong approach. This is likely bigger than one company alone to solve.


  • #9064
    shoes43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭shoes43


    My boss has just decided to tell me he is getting tested tomorrow - he hasn't been in the office much the last few day and we do not sure the same office space, I am upstairs him downstairs but he decided to come in for about 40 minutes this morning. But as a matter of precaution as I have parents in their 70s I am now going to have too avoid them for then next few days til he gets his test results. I am hoping he is just been a drama queen.


  • #9065
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,270 ✭✭✭Allinall


    BoroMan32 wrote: »
    Early reports indicate Irish Racing is set to continue behind closed doors.

    Utter madness.

    Reports from where?

    All British racing is cancelled until May at the earliest.


  • #9066
    ShamoBuc
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,950 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Call me Al wrote: »
    No, I'm really not seeing that. Harris especially looks drained and tired.

    To be fair he always did.


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  • #9067
    jarvis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭jarvis


    shoes43 wrote: »
    My boss has just decided to tell me he is getting tested tomorrow - he hasn't been in the office much the last few day and we do not sure the same office space, I am upstairs him downstairs but he decided to come in for about 40 minutes this morning. But as a matter of precaution as I have parents in their 70s I am now going to have too avoid them for then next few days til he gets his test results. I am hoping he is just been a drama queen.

    I would say to everyone to avoid your elderly relatives no matter what if at all possible.


  • #9068
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    shoes43 wrote: »
    My boss has just decided to tell me he is getting tested tomorrow - he hasn't been in the office much the last few day and we do not sure the same office space, I am upstairs him downstairs but he decided to come in for about 40 minutes this morning. But as a matter of precaution as I have parents in their 70s I am now going to have too avoid them for then next few days til he gets his test results. I am hoping he is just been a drama queen.

    What the hell was he doing in this morning, the selfish wank3r.


  • #9069
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Canada and America closing their border.

    Announcement by Trudeau last few minutes.


  • #9070
    BoroMan32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭BoroMan32


    Allinall wrote: »
    Reports from where?

    All British racing is cancelled until May at the earliest.

    https://twitter.com/Ui_Maine/status/1240290564068737024?s=20


  • #9071
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    Seriously?

    So many probably barely getting sleep.
    They are doing their best job they can and I doubt anyone would want to be in their shoes.

    Comments like this are making me check this thread less often.

    From a mental health point of view, I’m clicking less and less. I’ve reached a point where I’m not getting any new helpful info. All it does is raise the stress levels.

    There aRe some who, even in a global crisis, still can’t help but stick to personal agendas. Hey, maybe it’s their coping mechanism...


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  • #9072
    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Just been told that a lad in my workplace(different shift) has turned up to work despite a member of his family having it.

    Company* isn't paying people who are self-isolating...so he just told them he hadn't any contact with this family member in the last number of weeks...could get very dicey as nobody believes him

    *company's worth a fortune & share price has increased since CoVid-19


  • #9073
    xtal191
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,534 ✭✭✭xtal191


    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1240297527481708545


  • #9074
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Anyone who returned from Spain or Italy in recent weeks (and possibly Cheltenham) should be subjected to isolation orders by the government. The gardai should pay random visits to their house and if they aren't home, impose substantial fines.

    These people should be at home, not out and about pretending life can continue as normal and potentially spreading the virus.


  • #9075
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    https://twitter.com/vincekearney/status/1240302101122682882?s=20


  • #9076
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    el Fenomeno wrote: »
    I assume this mortgage repayments deferral/holiday or whatever is most appropriate to call it isn't a blanket thing. They'll only allow it to people who can prove they can't repay currently due to loss of employment or income, right?

    Details have yet to be released but I would say people will have to contact their banks.

    TBH - personally I think a blanket deferral would be simpler - just hit pause on all mortgage repayments for 3 months - but I doubt that is what will happen.
    And yes, I know some people will be able to continue to pay but surely from an admin point of view it would be easier if those people got in touch with the bank to say so.

    One concern is that according to the Indo interest could keep accruing. So perhaps it's really interest only on offer...

    I'm sure we'll find out the details later.


  • #9077
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    BoroMan32 wrote: »

    this is utter madness. what if a jockey has corona, and passes it on to the trainer and other support staff that work with the horse?


  • #9078
    darjeeling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    A couple of new drug reports:

    In China they're reporting success using an antiviral drug called avigan (also called favipiravir), which, in the same way as remdesivir, interferes with the enzyme that replicates the viral genome.
    Patients treated were reportedly cleared of virus more quickly, and had improved lung conditions and better recovery.
    News report only, no scientific papers yet as far as I can see.
    Oddly, it's made by Fujifilm, whose share price is now soaring.

    In Marseille doctors have been using hydroxychloroquine (anti-malarial, also for rheumatoid arthritis) and an antibiotic called azithromycin to treat patients in a non-blind trial.
    Compared with patients treated in a different hospital, they report lower viral loads and faster clearance of virus, but we really need data from a proper double-blind trial to know that it's working.
    link


  • #9079
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    xtal191 wrote: »

    that's an extremely informative graphic - needs to go viral.


  • #9080
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    bekker wrote: »
    Not exactly correct, once block grant is allocated from central government it's true regional assemblies have control over it.

    But for example, if the Executive in the North were to decide to close the schools they would have to pay teachers salaries, and all other consequential cost from the existing block grant.

    If is is a decision of central government to close then it would be funded separately from the block grant.

    So Scotland & Wales don't get block grants!
    I didn't know that. Slightly confused now!


  • #9081
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    sky news showing a pre-fab mortuary being built in London.


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  • #9082
    Kilboor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Kilboor


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    that's an extremely informative graphic - needs to go viral.
    :D


  • #9083
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Kilboor wrote: »
    :D

    oops... my bad! sorry.


  • #9084
    statesaver
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    iwillyeah1234 wrote: »
    sky news showing a pre-fab mortuary being built in London.

    You serious :eek: :eek: fuk.


  • #9085
    shoes43
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭shoes43


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    What the hell was he doing in this morning, the selfish wank3r.



    He now tells me one of daughters has a cough and the other has been "off" since yesterday but the Doctor only testing them as a matter of pre-caution.

    My parents have not been out of the house since the weekend and we are doing all the necessary precautions to make sure they are safe.


  • #9086
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Tatiana Tangy Someway wrote: »
    Blood groups?

    People with blood type A might be more vulnerable to the coronavirus, while those with type O blood could be more resistant, (well according to a {small} preliminary study from China)
    Type O patients, meanwhile, made up a smaller proportion of both those infected, and killed by the virus.

    The sample group was early/small, might be more useful to obtain the latest stats from somewhere on the 200k confirmed cases that are having issues.

    Not sure about Rhesus factors, only 15% of folks are 'Rh-negative'.
    The Rh-negatives (according to some old folklore) are a 'bit special', but best to view that with a grain or 23, of salt.


    This Type O Rh Neg diabetic with other conditions has my fingers crossed in a please let it be so selfish way.


  • #9087
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    darjeeling wrote: »
    A couple of new drug reports:

    In China they're reporting success using an antiviral drug called avigan (also called favipiravir), which, in the same way as remdesivir, interferes with the enzyme that replicates the viral genome.
    Patients treated were reportedly cleared of virus more quickly, and had improved lung conditions and better recovery.
    News report only, no scientific papers yet as far as I can see.
    Oddly, it's made by Fujifilm, whose share price is now soaring.

    In Marseille doctors have been using hydroxychloroquine (anti-malarial, also for rheumatoid arthritis) and an antibiotic called azithromycin to treat patients in a non-blind trial.
    Compared with patients treated in a different hospital, they report lower viral loads and faster clearance of virus, but we really need data from a proper double-blind trial to know that it's working.
    link


    Can you really do proper double blind during this crisis? I'd expect there would be ethical issues.


  • #9088
    macnug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/vincekearney/status/1240302101122682882?s=20

    So is it 10 or 20% of cases requiring hospitalisation? A lot lot more then.


  • #9089
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    shoes43 wrote: »
    He now tells me one of daughters has a cough and the other has been "off" since yesterday but the Doctor only testing them as a matter of pre-caution.

    My parents have not been out of the house since the weekend and we are doing all the necessary precautions to make sure they are safe.

    Did he go skiing in Northern Italy lately by any chance despite being advised against it? Sounds like the sort who'd do that.


  • #9090
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Humberto Salazar wrote: »
    Oil prices down to mid twenties a barrel. Could go below 20 dollars for the first time in decades soon. Cheaper diesel petrol and home heating at least.


    The price at the pump won't change unfortunately


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  • #9091
    iwillyeah1234
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    statesaver wrote: »
    You serious :eek: :eek: fuk.

    not kidding - it was the central part of the report.
    Existing mortuary getting a pre-fab extension. The workmen literally started this morning.


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