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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 eldudebros


    Can see a lot of people killing themselves over this, might kill more than the virus. Too many have lost too much.

    Posts like these are nuts. You'd swear some people revel and stew in the misery. Christ almighty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    davedanon wrote: »
    What a Hero.

    nice selective quote,you snipped the part where i said im no hero!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    The doomsday merchants are winding me up.Im doing evrything im asked to help prevent this spread,but people going on about 15000 cases here in 3 weeks when no other country has had the same is way over the top.



    Im a truck driver,ive 2 deliveries tomorrow 1 to a pharma place in cork and another in galway...the same as any other week...Then sleep in my truck somewhere towards dublin(depends on hours driven and hours worked) but ill do the same tomorrow...its not essential emergency supplies of ventilators or medicine so im no fcuking hero or anything :pac:...But yeh Im cracking on working keeping sh1t going while others hide away in isolation...thats not a problem until fools start frightening the fcuk out of other with their doomsday scenarios.




    Ive havent bullsh1t about anything so wind your neck in there a relax

    Then I hope you get the gratitude you deserve. I have mentioned delivery drivers are frontline workers and are imperative in this. But I have seen others with non essential jobs say they won’t hide away and are going out even if it’s against guidance.

    I think we have to keep going each day as it comes and follow best practice. If it’s too conservative we will find out very quickly. However if we disregard it and just go out irregardless and it is as bad as thought, we can’t go back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    The doomsday merchants are winding me up.Im doing evrything im asked to help prevent this spread,but people going on about 15000 cases here in 3 weeks when no other country has had the same is way over the top.

    That's more a warning - "ignore us at your peril..."

    Italy went from 1000 to 15000 in two weeks
    Spain will be hitting 15000 in the same time frame if not actually faster

    Up to the people to prevent an Italy situation - listen to the advice and beat it, or ignore us and suffer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    nice selective quote,you snipped the part where i said im no hero!

    I wanted to emphasise the fact that you were being an arsehole. Hope this helps.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    So with Leo announcing the strategy of cocooning is to be used here, is it realization and perhaps a drip feed to the public we won't be able to maintain the current strategy for more than another few weeks?

    That's us, UK, Netherlands and I think Sweden coming out with it from Government level.

    Reckon they are just gonna go for a let the fit and healthy get back to normal, keep the place running and focus on the cocooning strategy to keep it at bay in a few weeks?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Then I hope you get the gratitude you deserve. I have mentioned delivery drivers are frontline workers and are imperative in this. But I have seen others with non essential jobs say they won’t hide away and are going out even if it’s against guidance.

    I think we have to keep going each day as it comes and follow best practice. If it’s too conservative we will find out very quickly. However if we disregard it and just go out irregardless and it is as bad as thought, we can’t go back.

    Im just doing my job ive done for nearly 20 years...if by some fluke i deliver something important then so be it...i collect a trailer in dublin port tomorrow and maybe something important is in it maybe not but my job is to get it to where it needs to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,430 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Xertz wrote: »
    One big factor could be Ireland’s age profile is a lot younger than most of Europe. We had a baby boom in the late 1970s and early 80s and that was probably the first generation that stuck around. Our “boomers” are closer to being millennials (some are) whereas in many countries the demographic is definitely older, with the largest cohort having been born sometime just after WWII, placing them in their 70s.

    So we may have that in our favour.

    It's interesting to look at the stats for various countries. Finland has had a similar number of cases to us and 0 deaths : Spain, UK and NL are faring much worse (even allowing for population size).

    A big hope is that the likes of us and Finland might be able to buck the European trend for both cases and fatalities. There are bound to be outliers during this pandemic, and God willing we are one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    So with Leo announcing the strategy of cocooning is to be used here, is it realization and perhaps a drip feed to the public we won't be able to maintain the current strategy for more than another few weeks?

    That's us, UK, Netherlands and I think Sweden coming out with it from Government level.

    Reckon they are just gonna go for a let the fit and healthy get back to normal, keep the place running and focus on the cocooning strategy to keep it at bay in a few weeks?

    He did say that elderly and vulnerable people need to cocoon. But with school closures, pub closures, public service closures and guidance to work from home it goes much further than other countries. U.K. are allowing mass gatherings such as concerts, schools remain open etc. We are advised to self isolate as much as possible rather than go back to normal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    davedanon wrote: »
    I wanted to emphasise the fact that you were being an arsehole. Hope this helps.

    Fcuk you...others like fritzelly can reply without being a.....suggest you have a **** and reduce your tension.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    fritzelly wrote: »
    That's more a warning - "ignore us at your peril..."

    Italy went from 1000 to 15000 in two weeks
    Spain will be hitting 15000 in the same time frame if not actually faster

    Up to the people to prevent an Italy situation - listen to the advice and beat it, or ignore us and suffer

    My argument against that scenario is we locked the place down way before they did...we are doing social distance and all that stuff way before they did...why should we be near the same level as those countries when we got on top of it much much sooner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Im just doing my job ive done for nearly 20 years...if by some fluke i deliver something important then so be it...i collect a trailer in dublin port tomorrow and maybe something important is in it maybe not but my job is to get it to where it needs to go.

    It is doubtful that anything is being purchased and imported that isn’t necessary at the moment. Cash flow for businesses is of prime importance so they only want things that they can sell. People like you should be applauded for ensuring that people have supplies they need. But it is a scary time so people who are isolating should not be seen as the enemy.,we need to work together to get through this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭davedanon


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Fcuk you...others like fritzelly can reply without being a.....suggest you have a **** and reduce your tension.

    Very strange rejoinder. Anyway...

    "But yeh Im cracking on working keeping sh1t going while others hide away in isolation"

    Bragging on about how you're getting **** done despite everything, but others are "hiding away".

    Arsehole.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    My argument against that scenario is we locked the place down way before they did...we are doing social distance and all that stuff way before they did...why should we be near the same level as those countries when we got on top of it much much sooner.

    We did lock down sooner - but far too many are just ignoring the warnings
    There was a great article posted here about how different scenarios affect things - cannot stop it but slow it down. It needs nearly everyone to be observing the distancing for it to be effective


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,408 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    The doomsday merchants are winding me up.Im doing evrything im asked to help prevent this spread,but people going on about 15000 cases here in 3 weeks when no other country has had the same is way over the top.

    Actually they're not doomsday predictions... they're potentially quite accurate!
    Im a truck driver,ive 2 deliveries tomorrow 1 to a pharma place in cork and another in galway...the same as any other week...Then sleep in my truck somewhere towards dublin(depends on hours driven and hours worked) but ill do the same tomorrow...its not essential emergency supplies of ventilators or medicine so im no fcuking hero or anything :pac:...But yeh Im cracking on working keeping sh1t going while others hide away in isolation...thats not a problem until fools start frightening the fcuk out of other with their doomsday scenarios.

    Woodside Haulage by any chance?

    Used to drive trucks myself. Might be doing so again, if my current job goes under. (Looking highly probable right now)

    I don't think people are deliberately trying to frighten anyone. Some of the realistic worse case scenarios are fairly stark - and we do need to prepare ourselves for those possibilities!
    Ive havent bullsh1t about anything so wind your neck in there a relax

    You are!

    You're telling people to stop overreacting, even though you have no real knowledge of what is an appropriate reaction to this situation! We are living in very strange times right now... people are are right to be worrying. I'm not a worrier myself, but I understand the concerns of people. We don't really know how this is going to end. (Even the experts don't)

    It's arrogant for anyone to pretend they do know. Or to tell others how they should be reacting!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    J. Marston wrote: »

    Must be 1000's of Chinese studies posted at this point

    There is no hard science for it - it's still spreading in hot and humid countries
    Only time will tell if it really does slow it down enough to basically eliminate it's spread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    J. Marston wrote: »

    It is definitely true for flu that higher temperatures slow or kill it. Unfortunately in Ireland March and April on average don’t increase temperatures dramatically and may not be enough. Also the worry is if a nicer dryer day with people not in work may mean crowds at beaches etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    joeguevara wrote: »
    It is doubtful that anything is being purchased and imported that isn’t necessary at the moment. Cash flow for businesses is of prime importance so they only want things that they can sell. People like you should be applauded for ensuring that people have supplies they need. But it is a scary time so people who are isolating should not be seen as the enemy.,we need to work together to get through this.

    Just doing a job...as long as i get paid im happy...actually feel pretty lucky that my job involves not being sent home without pay...peoplewho are isolating to me are lucky,i envy them!!!....its the ones who are posting on social media going doomsday that i have beef with.
    davedanon wrote: »
    Very strange rejoinder. Anyway...

    "But yeh Im cracking on working keeping sh1t going while others hide away in isolation"

    Bragging on about how you're getting **** done despite everything, but others are "hiding away".

    Arsehole.
    yeh like i said before Fcuk you...hide behind your keyboard
    fritzelly wrote: »
    We did lock down sooner - but far too many are just ignoring the warnings
    There was a great article posted here about how different scenarios affect things - cannot stop it but slow it down. It needs nearly everyone to be observing the distancing for it to be effective

    Thanks for that,had a look,im doing everythinmg i can so is my family...ive got 70+ yr old grandparents..well i dont my kids do...so im not taking it lightly im just not getting a hard on for the disaster porn thats been posted here.


  • Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I can't read this stuff without getting overly anxious to the extent that I may regret it.

    Good luck everyone. I hope we all live to argue another day. Let today not be the day we do it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,149 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    I will say it has brought out some weirdos and not talking about on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    The whole thing seems excessive to me. And a bit surreal. And with each new bit of drama it seems like the population of the world is developing OCD.

    If it was just people doing it I would say they are loons but it is also governments. They’d hardly be doing “lockdowns” unless it was really serious - they’d be “keep calm and carry on”.

    Maybe this virus could be as bad as Spanish Flu and this is how to handle it.

    Anyway that address to the nation lost whatever serious impact Varadkar intended but modelling the whole setup and the walk in on what the US president does when making “dramatic” announcements.

    I can’t figure out which moment was worse - the “not all superheroes wear capes” bit or when he plagiarised Winston Churchill


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Woodsie1


    Woodside Haulage by any chance?

    Used to drive trucks myself. Might be doing so again, if my current job goes under. (Looking highly probable right now)

    Haha no...awful company to work for.
    Get back into it pal the industry is screaming out for drivers...the pay isnt great but its only going to get better,massive shortage of drivers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Just doing a job...as long as i get paid im happy...actually feel pretty lucky that my job involves not being sent home without pay...peoplewho are isolating to me are lucky,i envy them!!!....its the ones who are posting on social media going doomsday that i have beef with.

    yeh like i said before Fcuk you...hide behind your keyboard



    Thanks for that,had a look,im doing everythinmg i can so is my family...ive got 70+ yr old grandparents..well i dont my kids do...so im not taking it lightly im just not getting a hard on for the disaster porn thats been posted here.

    I have not left house since Wednesday for reasons I don’t want to get into. It’s certainly not something to be envied. Also I can’t see my parents and it’s killing me.,don’t wish for something like that.

    Also, fake news is instilling fear and needs to be disregarded. We need to do everything we can to mitigate this. Fighting amongst each other is not the best way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    spookwoman wrote: »
    I will say it has brought out some weirdos and not talking about on here.

    Please don’t just leave it like that

    What weirdos and where?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,430 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    joeguevara wrote: »
    It is definitely true for flu that higher temperatures slow or kill it. Unfortunately in Ireland March and April on average don’t increase temperatures dramatically and may not be enough. Also the worry is if a nicer dryer day with people not in work may mean crowds at beaches etc.

    Sunlight is another factor. People get far more sunshine in summer, this boosts their Vitamin D levels which in turn strengthens their immune system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,149 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Big jump for sweden today
    15/03/2020 new 79 deaths 1
    16/03/2020 new 81 deaths 4
    17/08/2020 new 389 deaths 8

    total new 2742 deaths 27


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,060 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I am finding this year a little surreal nearly.
    Firstly we had the Sinn Féin surge.
    Then we had loads of storms. Which was understandable.
    Now we have this businesses, shops, pubs,schools closed, walking around Tesco is almost a military excessive, parades cancelled, No Audience on The Late Late Show and the DWTS final moving forward and it just keeps on going.
    I even saw somebody writing a post giving out about Leo on Facebook tonight and people were defending Leo and the guy didn't know what to do.
    Sorry for the rant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    joeguevara wrote: »
    I have not left house since Wednesday for reasons I don’t want to get into. It’s certainly not something to be envied. Also I can’t see my parents and it’s killing me.,don’t wish for something like that.

    Also, fake news is instilling fear and needs to be disregarded. We need to do everything we can to mitigate this. Fighting amongst each other is not the best way.

    If they were really reasons you “didn’t want to get into” then you wouldn’t have mentioned them.

    ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,022 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    The governor of Nevada has ordered all non essential businesses to close for 30 days. So just groceries, medicine, fuel and food (delivery or drive thru/take out only) will be available. So, its lockdown essentially. All gaming machines will be turned off at midnight , even those in those grocery stores and gas stations (yes they have those). Seeing all those machines gone black will be surreal. "Stay home for Nevada" is the slogan. I hope it works :(


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