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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #8102
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    holyhead wrote: »
    Is it Leo’s fault thousands of Irish went to Cheltenham?? We as a people share culpability too not just the Govt.

    No. Its the Govt's fault they didn't attempt to stop the virus at source thereby limiting its spread here. You're right regarding the Cheltenham people. Terrible.


  • #8103
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    castletownman wrote: »
    Maybe its my overly active brain keeping me awake, but an idea just occurred, although I have no clue whether it would be feasible.

    We keep hearing about how stretched the health service (hospitals in particular) will get if the projected figure comes to pass. I was wondering would it feasible if those temporarily out of work, myself included, could be trained up to help out, be it carrying out basic medical treatment to the affected or even adminstering the swab test? Hazmat suits included of course.

    Between community nurses, paramedics, army personnel etc. there surely would be enough expertise to carry a one-day course as a matter of urgency. Just doing a quick count of the towns and villages in my area too, it is easy to identify suitable buildings currently out of use that could become temporary wards (sports clubs, community halls, schools). Not every town and village are going to be stretched with confirmed cases.

    Maybe I am too influenced by the community shelters that pop up in America after a severe natural disaster, and by the WW2 films with the trauma centres located anywhere they can, including churches, but if this is really going to get as apocalyptic as some fear, its a measure worth considering.

    You can volunteer on the hse site https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/oncall/


  • #8104
    V8 Interceptor
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    Raconteuse wrote: »
    The pretending that it wasn't taken seriously is amazing. Doublethink of an Orwellian level. There was literally a big deal made as soon as it was known people were returning from skiing in Italy.

    Was a lockdown really feasible at that stage? Of course it bloody well wasn't.

    Who said anything about a lockdown? But stopping Italian flights entering the Country, save bringing citizens home? Absolutely.


  • #8105
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,928 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    What are you talking about? Is trying to protect your citizens xenophobic now?

    Trump's actions no doubt has limited and slowed its spread. Good job. Pity our muppets have waited until the Country is riddled before they decide to limit incoming flights.

    Why are you using explosive language like "riddled".
    Our numbers are better than other countries.

    No evidence whatsoever that Trump has slowed it.

    Also Trump's approach is xenophobic as he's adopting an "america first" approach and not getting involved in a world effort to fight the spread.


  • #8106
    wannabecraig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    Flights seem to be cancelled from USA. Anybody with any further info?
    My partner was due to move here tomorrow and she's just seen on her app that the flight is cancelled.
    She's flying from LAX


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  • #8107
    Stheno
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    joeguevara wrote: »
    But the GP can only say take paracetamol and don’t go out. There is literally nothing else they can do. If symptoms become unbearable go to hospital. If not, stay at home. The big worry is people will arrive on mass to hospitals and even if we’re not infected, get infected there.

    Your Gp can sort out a test if you need one


    I think people need to calm down tbh


  • #8108
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    wannabecraig wrote: »
    Flights seem to be cancelled from USA. Anybody with any further info?
    My partner was due to move here tomorrow and she's just seen on her app that the flight is cancelled.
    She's flying from LAX

    Not watching the news? No emails? They were scheduled to stop flying from midnight (EST) Monday


  • #8109
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
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    Woodsie1 wrote: »
    Video from a young Irish trucker from today,chats about the virus.
    For a young fella hes got a decent head on his shoulders.

    Sounds like so many others in the country... he thinks there is a big overreaction!

    There isn't!


  • #8110
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    holyhead wrote: »
    Is it Leo’s fault thousands of Irish went to Cheltenham?? We as a people share culpability too not just the Govt.

    That is very true, anyone flying anywhere outside of Ireland since this started are idiots just asking for trouble


  • #8111
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Woodsie1 wrote: »


    Video from a young Irish trucker from today,chats about the virus.
    For a young fella hes got a decent head on his shoulders.

    Interesting video and perspective from the real world.

    Good find!


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  • #8112
    wannabecraig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Not watching the news? No emails? They were scheduled to stop flying from midnight (EST) Monday

    That was to, not from. Was only cancelled 2 hours ago.
    And no, no cancellation emails.


  • #8113
    JP Liz V1
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    I still think now we need a complete lockdown with curfew


  • #8114
    V8 Interceptor
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    Trump's approach is xenophobic as he's adopting an "america first" approach and not getting involved in a world effort to fight the spread.

    Are you serious? The American President trying to stop Americans getting infected is xenophoblic???


  • #8115
    Stheno
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I still think now we need a complete lockdown with curfew

    Why? I've been home now for two weeks apart from food shopping


  • #8116
    Raconteuse
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    Why are you using explosive language like "riddled".
    Our numbers are better than other countries.

    No evidence whatsoever that Trump has slowed it.

    Also Trump's approach is xenophobic as he's adopting an "america first" approach and not getting involved in a world effort to fight the spread.
    Obviously I'm not a "let's blame the government for the weather" type but the trajectory here is not like Italy's, however it is like Spain's at the equivalent point in time (slightly higher in fact) and compare our population to Spain's. Hopefully it pans out better here but it's worrying.


  • #8117
    niallo27
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I still think now we need a complete lockdown with curfew

    Who do you want to enforce it. We are nearly in lockdown already. There is **** all open.


  • #8118
    fritzelly
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    wannabecraig wrote: »
    That was to, not from. Was only cancelled 2 hours ago.
    And no, no cancellation emails.

    Airlines are not gonna fly people out and then have no one to fly back


  • #8119
    V8 Interceptor
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I still think now we need a complete lockdown with curfew

    There's thousands of non-Irish still flying in from all over the World and they're handed a piece of paper and sent on their way. Yet Paddy & Biddy are told to hunker down and not to go next, nigh or near anyone else.


  • #8120
    cnocbui
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I still think now we need a complete lockdown with curfew

    I don't. Completely unnecessary and over the top. Social distancing will suffice.


  • #8121
    tuxy
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    wannabecraig wrote: »
    That was to, not from. Was only cancelled 2 hours ago.
    And no, no cancellation emails.

    Flights only make financial sense if the planes can go both ways.
    Many airlines will be lucky to survive this so there won't be many subsidised one way flights.


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  • #8122
    Syncpolice
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    I'd like to welcome V8 interceptor back


  • #8123
    Gretas Gonna Get Ya!
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    holyhead wrote: »
    Is it Leo’s fault thousands of Irish went to Cheltenham?? We as a people share culpability too not just the Govt.

    Actually YES... it is his fault technically!

    It's not ONLY his fault - but he is leader of the country, and absolutely could have taken a position on it and ordered our citizens not to travel to a bloody horse racing festival while there was a dangerous virus going around.

    We could have threatened them with fines for not complying with these orders. And we could have quarantined and tested them on return if they still went!

    We could have done lots of things... but instead our government did nothing, and took no position at all on the issue! Which is lack of leadership!

    Most people in the country could see it was a bad idea to go to that festival at this particular time. So why not take the lead as our government, and do something about those idiots?


  • #8124
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,350 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Laughable that so many on my Facebook stream are criticising the speech tonight and the government in general but have had posts over last few days at crowded beach, or house parties eTc.


  • #8125
    V8 Interceptor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭V8 Interceptor


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    I'd like to welcome V8 interceptor back

    Erm, cheers...


  • #8126
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    What's a total lockdown? Everywhere closed except food retailers, chemists and essential services, i.e. what we're doing?


  • #8127
    wannabecraig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Airlines are not gonna fly people out and then have no one to fly back

    Understood, they're still selling tickets for the flight out on Thursday.
    Perhaps they just haven't locked that part of the system down yet.
    I was really just wondering if there was any official line on it, with regards to Ireland. I know Germany have banned all flights landing, effective today.


  • #8128
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,928 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    There's thousands of non-Irish still flying in from all over the World and they're handed a piece of paper and sent on their way. Yet Paddy & Biddy are told to hunker down and not to go next, nigh or near anyone else.

    Where do you get these numbers from?

    The airports are empty.


  • #8129
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,764 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    wannabecraig wrote: »
    Flights seem to be cancelled from USA. Anybody with any further info?
    My partner was due to move here tomorrow and she's just seen on her app that the flight is cancelled.
    She's flying from LAX

    She might have to route via Canada, Mexico, etc.


  • #8130
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    V8 Interceptor wrote: »
    Erm, cheers...

    Just keep up the quality


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  • #8131
    Jurgen Klopp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Jurgen Klopp


    Just a little snippet. But Ive seen people on about non medically trained people being used as Porters etc

    Trained healthcare assistant myself, but left it. Basically the ones that get people from beds, help with washing , dressing, feeding and then bringing patients up and down to X rays etc, in a hospital setting.

    To even be considered an interview for a hospital you need to have the equivalent of 1 years full classroom training, important ones such as infection prevention & control, health and safety in work place, palliative care

    A porter would be a step above it again, it tends to be far more responsibility than years ago. I think in house laundry and canteen tend to need the same qualifications as HCA as they tend to be used as floaters between duties, but I'm not totally certain.

    I think the cleaners tend be contracted out

    Maybe they will relax certain stuff now cause of the emergency but just my 2c in regards to non medically trained staff.

    I'm sure maybe they could fastrack people for admin maybe even allow volunteer ambulance drivers as long as you have class C licence I don't know


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