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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #7772
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    It would be pure insanity to let every gob****e with a sniffle just rock up to these places. We've done well to clear the hypochondriacs with paper clip lacerations* out of A&E. We don't need them to congregate at testing centres instead.

    * Credit to Atlantic Dawn for this excellent phrase.

    Haha. Thats a good phrase. Point taken.


  • #7773
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    Oddly, both daily increases since the statement was made have perfectly matched the model.

    Ok that’s worrying then. I didn’t believe the prediction of 15000 by the end of the month so I didn’t it out on pen and paper and came to a figure of 14816 by April first. Scary stuff! I thought they were exaggerating to scare people into compliance. Apparently not.


  • #7774
    Fart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    storker wrote: »
    Miriam does not fart. Ever.

    I beg to differ.


  • #7775
    bb12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭bb12


    what i don't understand is that in this modern world of technology and communication, i come across very little info of what life is actually for those in lockdown or what people who have been infected go through and consequences therof except brief snapshots on news reports and the odd tweet here and there...you'd probably know more about the colour of kim kardashians knickers that real life stories of those infected.


  • #7776
    Nermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Let’s say we don’t have 15,000 cases at the end of March.

    Let’s say it’s 1,500.

    Keep the restrictions?

    Loosen them?

    Indefinite suppression isn’t a plan.


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  • #7777
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200316/14584244111/
    Suing to prevent companies making a vaccine. Sweet f*cking Jesus.


  • #7778
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    pH wrote: »
    The main difference between here and the UK is the schools not being closed and that pubs aren't 'officially' closed, just people advised not to use them (To be fair people can sit around in restaurant in Ireland tonight if they want to)

    On the other side the UK have been far more proactive about advice to the elderly, Leo's "cocooning" is what Boris has been saying for days now.

    As of a few days ago the UK had done roughly 10x the number of tests ireland had, which is reasonably in line with the populations.

    My understanding is that the epidemiologist and modellers who put together the UK models think that school closure has a minimal effect on the disease's spread when compared to these children needing alternative arrangements and being cared for by family/friends/grandparents.

    Sure they may be wrong, and everyone posting here seems to thinks it's evidence of incompetence or some sort of eugenics program being inflicted on the UK people, but it really isn't. And if it is the wrong decision, it's not wrong by much.

    From the model School Closure assumptions:

    Household contact rates for student families increase by 50% during closure. Contacts in the community increase by 25% during closure.

    Yeah. The UKs approach to the elderly is much more direct. I have said before, we don’t know which approach is correct at this point in the fight of this virus. Next Autumn hopefully we can look back and determine which approach was better. Hopefully we will have the battle won


  • #7779
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Remember when people on here were slating the US for restricting arrivals from china? And when they banned travel from europe? Do they still think it's a bad thing
    I wonder?


  • #7780
    Ace2007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,029 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Nermal wrote: »
    Let’s say we don’t have 15,000 cases at the end of March.

    Let’s say it’s 1,500.

    Keep the restrictions?

    Loosen them?

    Indefinite suppression isn’t a plan.

    Let's look at Italy and Spain then... and see how good/bad it is.


  • #7781
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Fart wrote: »
    I beg to differ.

    I’d say you’d beg....


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  • #7782
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Why is that good?

    They might take it seriously.


  • #7783
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Loads of countries banned flights from China before this. Isreal and Jordan closed travel before the US.

    The US have done great things on the crisis recently but were not the first to stop flights.
    Time travel paradox again, just window dressing for domestic consumption. Travel bans only have a possibility of being effective for countries which, like China, appear to have it confined and are trying to avoided it kicking-off again.


  • #7784
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    He banned flights from the Eu and quickly added in the UK and Ireland. He was slated for it.

    Canada has banned non nationals from entering the country. No grief for Trudeau.

    Boris wants the elderly to isolate. Got slated for it

    Leo says the same this evening. Calls it cocooning. Not a bad word said against him.

    Yeah fair point. I think Trump and the US was dead right banning flights.

    In fairness to Trump he changed his approach quite quickly.


  • #7785
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Some big increases in Europe today and some may sill go up
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  • #7786
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,328 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Nermal wrote: »
    Let’s say we don’t have 15,000 cases at the end of March.

    Let’s say it’s 1,500.

    Keep the restrictions?

    Loosen them?

    Indefinite suppression isn’t a plan.

    Keep them for now anyway.....it would be very risky to lift them too soon.

    But the authorities would also be ecstatic at such numbers.


  • #7787
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    saabsaab wrote: »
    Exactly, there are a few holes in the strategy. There should be an aerosol disinfectant spray on all public transport. Also our cash needs disinfecting as the number of hands it goes through will mean it is and will increasing be a virus vector.

    Seen a post from a GoAhead driver on Monday complaining that the bus he was driving hadn’t been cleaned, never mind disinfected after the previous nights shift.


  • #7788
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Well the please stay at home approach - didn't really work,

    Then we had the what I'll call "Social Media" approach - over the weekend - every "celeb" on it telling folk to stay in etc.

    Yet so many people just don't listen, so maybe hard facts will work.

    I have to go out and work in the morning I am well stocked up.
    Working for eight hours loads of people with a few hand sanitisers stuck up does not make me feel safe.

    I don't care about myself but I have elderly folks living with me.


  • #7789
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    ITman88 wrote: »
    It not done my folks any good!! Absolute hysteria and fear at home!!
    Italy is almost 3 times as densely populated with an older age profile so I’m hoping those figures don’t come true



    No they are not.

    Northern Italy where a lot of the contagion spread, is also where the affluent members live. They have a health service second to none. Or should I say they had before a pandemic came and ravaged it.

    They also had 7500 ventilators and they hadn't enough. The surgeons on the ground had to make very tough decisions about who lived and who died. That amounted to not treating people under 60 so that the younger people could use the ventilators.

    If the figure is only a fraction of the 15k, it will still be a massive drain on the health infrastructure we don't have and the equipment we don't have enough of.

    Stop with the overstating claims. This is quite fúcking serious.


  • #7790
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,123 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Only a matter of time before people turn on the government even though they are doing their best.

    People just can't stay calm and need to be spoon-fed and reassured.

    That's when we see law and order issues.


  • #7791
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Bunny Colvin wrote: »
    He would have done fine imo.

    Don't think so


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  • #7792
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,433 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Trump was slated because he banned flights from the EU and not Ireland and UK where infection rates were higher than some EU countries.

    He then went on to blame the EU all the while the virus was already out of control in the US


  • #7793
    kaymin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭kaymin


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    I love how posters attack the government,

    When Harris cancelled the Ireland v Italy Rugby game, the abuse on boards - over dramatic etc, now we look back and think that was a good idea - and look how many more sporting occasions have been cancelled - pretty much the entire world....

    You say it's the government fault - what about the IRISH that travelled to Italy and came back here - do they not have to take any responsibility?

    I read people saying they should have closed the airports - so what do you do with the thousands of Irish abroad - something like 20,000 in Spain alone - just leave them there?

    I was posting on the 2 February about flights from North Italy arriving unhindered into Dublin airport. I wasn't looking back then - I was watching government / HSE incompetence realtime.

    If one could expect the masses to behave responsibility then there would be no need for the gardai or courts system.

    Controlled return of Irish from abroad could have been arranged. There was a template there from China.


  • #7794
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,755 ✭✭✭maebee


    Contrast the UK and Irish government pressers today. The UK pm spoke for a few minutes, said very little and handed over to his Chancellor of the Exchequer. It's all about the economy in the UK, more about humanity here. I never voted FG in my life but have to say that Leo, Harris and Coveney are a million miles ahead of Trump and Bojo.


  • #7795
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Mental Mickey wrote: »
    Don't think so
    Why not?


  • #7796
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Ficheall wrote: »
    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200316/14584244111/
    Suing to prevent companies making a vaccine. Sweet f*cking Jesus.

    I stopped at the headline "SoftBank Owned Patent Troll, Using Monkey Selfie Law Firm, Sues To Block Covid-19 Testing, Using Theranos Patents"

    This looks like random words thrown at a sentence.

    This article explained it words I could understand: https://www.businessinsider.com/theranos-patents-fortress-labrador-diagnostics-lawsuit-biofire-coronavirus-tests-2020-3?r=US&IR=T

    Communism becomes more attractive day by day.


  • #7797
    pookiesboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭pookiesboo


    I know this will probably get lost with the volume of posts but anyone else's mental health suffering?
    I'm a carer for both my parents in their seventies ,my mother had a polio as a child so as a result as a curvature in her spine she has copd,had a bad heart attack a couple of years ago and is on an oxygen machine at least 12 hrs a day to help her breathe. My dad also has diabetes and has his other health issues. I'll be doing the shopping for them now so my dad doesn't have to leave the house, I'm just petrified,absolutely petrified I'll catch it and infect them. We also have five or six different carers in rotation coming in to assist me throughout the week. I've found myself sobbing uncontrollably the past few days, the enormity of this if it affects either of my parents, God forbid, I can't even bring myself to type it


  • #7798
    comedown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17 ✭comedown


    I guarantee the same people complaining about Leo's speech are the very same types that boasted "I'm still going on my holidays it's only a flu" two weeks ago. Clowns.


  • #7799
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Trump was slated because he banned flights from the EU and not Ireland and UK where infection rates were higher than some EU countries.

    He then went on to blame the EU all the while the virus was already out of control in the US

    No one cares about Trump's madness at the moment in Ireland.


  • #7800
    frillyleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    I feel the government have really ramped up their response this week which is fantastic to see. I saw a video of the testing centre and it looks very well planned out.

    I’ve heard of people needing to wait to the end of the week for testing. What is involved in the process and why does it take so long got them to get tested ?


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  • #7801
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Why not?

    IMO he NEVER came across as someone in control


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