CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

Umpalumpa · 17-03-2020 10:52PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Are the testing centres 24/7? Think that would be good for people to just go without an appointment out of hours.

Not 24/7 yet, not enough kits to test people

elperello · 17-03-2020 10:53PM

walshb wrote: »

Sorry for off topic, but this Rosie film... snails fooking is more interesting!

Try to stick with it.
Social drama/documentary.
Learning experience.

igCorcaigh · 17-03-2020 10:53PM

kingshankly wrote: »

Talk of arresting people who won’t self isolate I would like my 75 year old dad arrested who thinks this is all much ado about nothing

I'm having trouble getting my 77 year old dad to understand too. Thankfully, his 68 year old wife is aware. We keep in touch by phone every day.

Mervyn Skidmore · 17-03-2020 10:54PM

irishguy1983 wrote: »

Well I can only go on facts - not people speculating on Internet forums to be fair....

Well it's a fact that 25,000 positve tests have been taken but not the whole population has been tested. I think it's reasonable to speculate a much higher actual number.

weldoninhio · 17-03-2020 10:54PM

RoryMac wrote: »

Exactly, people just need to worry about hand hygiene, keeping distance from others and looking out for family, friends & neighbors. If everyone does that we'll see this out in the best possible way.

It's all down to us as individuals to get through this

How does that work on a busy bus, Luas or train??

4Ad · 17-03-2020 10:54PM

A lad rings me earlier chatting away, " Sure I might call out later"
I told him **** off, he was on the razz all weekend, meeting loads of people.
He only wanted to call as the pub was closed..
Met another lad today, same arsehole village in East Clare " Coranavirus, Tis a load of rubbish"
I moved furthur away, it's not me I'm concerned about but my elderly ill healthed father....
Same overweight Kant has no problem putting ****e up his nose all weekend...
The stupidity/ selfishness of people is mind bogling, actually it's not !!

Kermit.de.frog · 17-03-2020 10:55PM

https://twitter.com/colmtobin/status/1240044972629524480

hurikane · 17-03-2020 10:55PM

bilston wrote: »

623 dead across Europe in the last 24 hours.

Italy and Spain by far responsible for most of that (536).

Italy's number are at least showing signs of stabilising. 345 deaths today, 349 yesterday and 368 the day before. Hopefully the lockdown which came in about 10 days ago is starting to take affect and there will be some easing of the pressure on their health service, but given the lag time it may yet be another week before real progress is seen.

Spain, on the other hand, is going in the wrong direction.

Poor choice of words. They accounted for the deaths, their health systems, doctors and nurses are doing all they can to save them.

Spanish Eyes · 17-03-2020 10:55PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

How many parents will be celebrating Mother's Day and Father's Day alone, cocooning will finish some off before the damn Covid19 virus

Those DAYS are just a marketing thing.

The vast majority live and give time to their parents all year round.

Clarence Boddiker · 17-03-2020 10:55PM

Raconteuse wrote: »

Arrogant "everyone is stupid except me" shyte.

And do clarify what you're talking about.

"Terrifying" - no it isn't terrifying and you're not terrified. What drama queen nonsense.

Yes exactly, the "everyone is stupid except me" attitude is running rampant throughout the Irish population.

SafeSurfer · 17-03-2020 10:56PM

cloudatlas wrote: »

Are there food shortages in Italy?

If there is I can sell them some pasta.

Heres Johnny · 17-03-2020 10:56PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I dont know if its hypochondria or not but there are tons of people on mumsnet claiming to be having symptoms and a lots who say they are confirmed as having it. If that's true its already rampant over there. None on boards so far is there?

Nobody on boards goes out to have a chance of catching anything judging by this thread, a post every couple of seconds!

irishguy1983 · 17-03-2020 10:56PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Well it's a fact that 25,000 positve tests have been taken but not the whole population has been tested. I think it's reasonable to speculate a much higher actual number.

Again have to stick with what we know....I’m sure there are cases undiagnosed but just pulling figures out of the sky doesn’t help.....At the moment is is approx 250/260 in Ireland and I highly doubt it will be 15,000 by end of March....There was a total of 69 today and I presume (hoping) more and more are isolating....

Sober Crappy Chemis · 17-03-2020 10:57PM

SafeSurfer wrote: »

If there is I can sell them some pasta.

And tinned toilet roll.

Sir Oxman · 17-03-2020 10:57PM

i have to say screening 'Rosie' isn't exactly an uplifting experience for the nation.
(Important film though it surely is)

Clarence Boddiker · 17-03-2020 10:57PM

Tha Brits! Tha Brits! Tha Brits!

4068ac1elhodqr · 17-03-2020 10:58PM

200k cases confirmed worldwide, and Italy along around the 30k mark.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Mightn't be too outlandish to guess actual un-confirmed walking cases could well be close to 1m globally?

Might be time to leave the boards everyone and prepare for Phase 3/4, maybe return in Summer when it's all over (for a while).

bekker · 17-03-2020 10:58PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

If you think only 25,000 in Italy have or have had this virus you are very wrong. The real number is probably in the hundreds of thousands. There could well be 15,000 cases here as we speak.

Once a country has a case of community infection without a known connection to a previously infected person the contagion is out of control.

If, and only if, that that person has been within a very easily geographically restricted area (with few unknown transients) then quarantining the area from travel may stop the spread of the infection to the rest of the population.

In our case once it was identified in the wild in Cork the horse was out of the stable. Mandatory quarantining all traveller immediately might have prevented more wild clusters developing, though it's highly unlikely given the variety of human infection vector paths.

SF fans will know this of old, 'if could return to the time, before we knew what was going to happen, happened, ... we could stop it happening'.

pH · 17-03-2020 10:59PM

darced wrote: »

What? Trump and Boris are actually doing at least the same or more.

The main difference between here and the UK is the schools not being closed and that pubs aren't 'officially' closed, just people advised not to use them (To be fair people can sit around in restaurant in Ireland tonight if they want to)

On the other side the UK have been far more proactive about advice to the elderly, Leo's "cocooning" is what Boris has been saying for days now.

As of a few days ago the UK had done roughly 10x the number of tests ireland had, which is reasonably in line with the populations.

My understanding is that the epidemiologist and modellers who put together the UK models think that school closure has a minimal effect on the disease's spread when compared to these children needing alternative arrangements and being cared for by family/friends/grandparents.

Sure they may be wrong, and everyone posting here seems to thinks it's evidence of incompetence or some sort of eugenics program being inflicted on the UK people, but it really isn't. And if it is the wrong decision, it's not wrong by much.

From the model School Closure assumptions:

Household contact rates for student families increase by 50% during closure. Contacts in the community increase by 25% during closure.

NegativeCreep · 17-03-2020 10:59PM

It’s probably been asked before but where is the increase of 30% a day coming from? I can’t find the increases from each day so I’m wondering have we actually seen a 30% increase every day since CV arrived here?

Mervyn Skidmore · 17-03-2020 10:59PM

To all the people saying that they are terrified or their parents are terrified, good.

Lord Trollington · 17-03-2020 10:59PM

blackcard wrote: »

So my ill conceived and badly thought out plan would be as follows.
Country including airports goes into a lockdown expect for critical front line staff.
A third of all healthy people including some frontline staff between 0 and 60 are packed off to hotels, barracks etc. Some people with the covid 19 virus are introduced, everyone shakes hands, cough, sniffle etc. until everyone has the virus, they stay there for 2 weeks until they recover. They can then go back to work, open shops, play sport. Over the next 4 weeks, the other 2/3 of the population under 60 are infected and recover. Normal life resumes. You would carry out a risk assessment on the rest of the population and infect those who are lower risk and who are willing. The remainder are given care to prevent them picking up the virus. Country back to normal by May

Thank fcuk you are not the CMO or the Taoiseach.

jam_mac_jam · 17-03-2020 10:59PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

He was the first to propose banning international flights. The Eu has followed suit.
Trump is miles ahead

Loads of countries banned flights from China before this. Isreal and Jordan closed travel before the US.

The US have done great things on the crisis recently but were not the first to stop flights.

Tony EH · 17-03-2020 11:00PM

tonycascarino wrote: »

So what I got from the speech is that many many more people are going to get infected and some will die, a recession is on the way, this will go on for months and a lockdown will probably come fairly soon.

Not only that, we're going to borrow more billions because of this. This, on top of the billions we already owe because of the bank bailout in 2008.

This country was already in multi generational debt.

Some people may have "cried" because of a few platitudes in Leo's speech, as "well delivered" as it was. But there's more in there (and not in there) that should have people very worried about the long term future of this country. People are already up to the eyeballs in debt because of crazy mortgages and put to the pin of their collar ridiculous rents.

Action on that is what will be needed. Even more so as more and more people lose their jobs and we get deeper into borrowing.

The worst of the virus may be over in a few months. But the fallout will last a lot longer than that.

ChikiChiki · 17-03-2020 11:00PM

Sir Oxman wrote: »

i have to say screening 'Rosie' isn't exactly an uplifting experience for the nation.
(Important film though it surely is)

Aye, perhaps as important as it is the timing is very very counter productive.

An Ciarraioch · 17-03-2020 11:00PM

irishguy1983 wrote: »

Again have to stick with what we know....I’m sure there are cases undiagnosed but just pulling figures out of the sky doesn’t help.....At the moment is is approx 250/260 in Ireland and I highly doubt it will be 15,000 by end of March....There was a total of 69 today and I presume (hoping) more and more are isolating....

It would be 15,000 if the 30% daily increase continues - tomorrow's figures to watch would be 88 and 380.

didntgotoplan · 17-03-2020 11:00PM

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

But you cant guarantee that others aren't bringing it into the home. My father for instance is taking no precautions at all despite my mother having 2 illness that make her very high risk. If she catches coronavirus she will die, no doubt about it. My dad wont even wash his hands and is living his life as normal, he's actually annoyed at being expected to change his habits. You never know what people are like or how seriously theyre going to take this. Youd expect people to have a little bit of common sense but allot of people really dont. Approach everyone like they have the virus.

I thought I was the only one with one but my stepfather doesn't wash his hands and coughs openly knowing that two people in the house suffer from illnesses. You remind him and he tells me off for being stupid! He got angry over the speech as he thought lockdown and being off work was coming for him.

CinemaGuy45 · 17-03-2020 11:00PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

To all the people saying that they are terrified or their parents are terrified, good.

Why is that good?

saabsaab · 17-03-2020 11:01PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

How does that work on a busy bus, Luas or train??

Exactly, there are a few holes in the strategy. There should be an aerosol disinfectant spray on all public transport. Also our cash needs disinfecting as the number of hands it goes through will mean it is and will increasing be a virus vector.

Cilldara_2000 · 17-03-2020 11:01PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Are the testing centres 24/7? Think that would be good for people to just go without an appointment out of hours.

It would be pure insanity to let every gob****e with a sniffle just rock up to these places. We've done well to clear the hypochondriacs with paper clip lacerations* out of A&E. We don't need them to congregate at testing centres instead.

* Credit to Atlantic Dawn for this excellent phrase.

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP