CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

ITman88 · 17-03-2020 11:02PM

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

Well it's a fact that 25,000 positve tests have been taken but not the whole population has been tested. I think it's reasonable to speculate a much higher actual number.

It may not be reasonable to speculate

Ace2007 · 17-03-2020 11:02PM

kaymin wrote: »

What actions did this vigilance translate to? The US was among the first to ban flights from other countries. Thankfully for us, given our govts inaction, the Italian government basically shut down flights out of north Italy

I love how posters attack the government,

When Harris cancelled the Ireland v Italy Rugby game, the abuse on boards - over dramatic etc, now we look back and think that was a good idea - and look how many more sporting occasions have been cancelled - pretty much the entire world....

You say it's the government fault - what about the IRISH that travelled to Italy and came back here - do they not have to take any responsibility?

I read people saying they should have closed the airports - so what do you do with the thousands of Irish abroad - something like 20,000 in Spain alone - just leave them there?

d8491prj5boyvg · 17-03-2020 11:02PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Why is that good?

Presumably because they will change their behaviour and be cautious, otherwise people will die.

An Ciarraioch · 17-03-2020 11:02PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

It’s probably been asked before but where is the increase of 30% a day coming from? I can’t find the increases from each day so I’m wondering have we actually seen a 30% increase every day since CV arrived here?

Oddly, both daily increases since the statement was made have perfectly matched the model.

Marje · 17-03-2020 11:03PM

olestoepoke wrote: »

My wife works in a pharmacy. I'm working from home with the kids. She is our biggest worry now. Where's one of the first place a sick person goes? Into their pharmacy. She's doing her best by washing her hands and using sanitiser but they have been unbelievably busy with customers in the last couple of weeks. It's an ill wind that doesn't blow for someone, her boss is taking in twice what he normally does in a day.

My local chemist has brought in a policy of only 2 people allowed in the shop, there's a staff member at the door letting people in and out.

I would have thought that chemist shops would start this policy now rather than later.

babybuilder · 17-03-2020 11:03PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/colmtobin/status/1240044972629524480

Get a life. Is this the same revisionist Colm?

irishguy1983 · 17-03-2020 11:03PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

It would be 15,000 if the 30% daily increase continues - tomorrow's figures to watch would be 88 and 380.

Well it didn’t make a 30% increase since ydy so they are behind already - they mentioned 30% ydy evening....Please quote me at end of March if I am wrong! I love the way everyone suddenly things the guy they thought was a clown 4 weeks ago/pre election is now the greatest leader ever....Anyway I gotta hit the bed!!

storker · 17-03-2020 11:04PM

Bonzo Delaney wrote: »

If she farted no one would of bated an eyelid these days

Miriam does not fart. Ever.

PokeHerKing · 17-03-2020 11:04PM

Ninthlife wrote: »

You dont like Leo, we get it. You do know he is really just a mouth piece now and all the decisions are being made behind the scenes by teams of experts in relative fields.

Leo himself wasnt ever going to save us. The collective effort of those making and those implementing the plans will.

Ah yes, let's just abstain the leader of the country from actually leading the country.

I don't know Leo well enough to dislike him, could be a great man to have a pint with. What I dislike is his current performance in the face of what is a life and death crisis.

Strazdas · 17-03-2020 11:04PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

It’s probably been asked before but where is the increase of 30% a day coming from? I can’t find the increases from each day so I’m wondering have we actually seen a 30% increase every day since CV arrived here?

It's definitely been along those lines in the last three or four days, yes.

saabsaab · 17-03-2020 11:04PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

I love how posters attack the government,

When Harris cancelled the Ireland v Italy Rugby game, the abuse on boards - over dramatic etc, now we look back and think that was a good idea - and look how many more sporting occasions have been cancelled - pretty much the entire world....

You say it's the government fault - what about the IRISH that travelled to Italy and came back here - do they not have to take any responsibility?

I read people saying they should have closed the airports - so what do you do with the thousands of Irish abroad - something like 20,000 in Spain alone - just leave them there?

Quarantine them! or if necessary leave them there until we can.

darced · 17-03-2020 11:04PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

I read people saying they should have closed the airports - so what do you do with the thousands of Irish abroad - something like 20,000 in Spain alone - just leave them there?

You take them back and quarantine them? It's not exactly rocket science.

rossie1977 · 17-03-2020 11:04PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

He was the first to propose banning international flights. The Eu has followed suit.
Trump is miles ahead

Italy banned Chinese flights before the US.. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2020/03/12/italy-banned-flights-from-china-before-americait-didnt-work/#216b8739481b

Ace2007 · 17-03-2020 11:04PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Why is that good?

Well the please stay at home approach - didn't really work,

Then we had the what I'll call "Social Media" approach - over the weekend - every "celeb" on it telling folk to stay in etc.

Yet so many people just don't listen, so maybe hard facts will work.

Pinch Flat · 17-03-2020 11:05PM

Marje wrote: »

My local chemist has brought in a policy of only 2 people allowed in the shop, there's a staff member at the door letting people in and out.

I would have thought that chemist shops would start this policy now rather than later.

Same near me. Pretty much one in one out.

Blueshoe · 17-03-2020 11:05PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Loads of countries banned flights from China before this. Isreal and Jordan closed travel before the US.

The US have done great things on the crisis recently but were not the first to stop flights.

He banned flights from the Eu and quickly added in the UK and Ireland. He was slated for it.

Canada has banned non nationals from entering the country. No grief for Trudeau.

Boris wants the elderly to isolate. Got slated for it

Leo says the same this evening. Calls it cocooning. Not a bad word said against him.

ChikiChiki · 17-03-2020 11:05PM

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

It would be pure insanity to let every gob****e with a sniffle just rock up to these places. We've done well to clear the hypochondriacs with paper clip lacerations* out of A&E. We don't need them to congregate at testing centres instead.

* Credit to Atlantic Dawn for this excellent phrase.

Haha. Thats a good phrase. Point taken.

NegativeCreep · 17-03-2020 11:05PM

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Oddly, both daily increases since the statement was made have perfectly matched the model.

Ok that’s worrying then. I didn’t believe the prediction of 15000 by the end of the month so I didn’t it out on pen and paper and came to a figure of 14816 by April first. Scary stuff! I thought they were exaggerating to scare people into compliance. Apparently not.

Fart · 17-03-2020 11:05PM

storker wrote: »

Miriam does not fart. Ever.

I beg to differ.

bb12 · 17-03-2020 11:05PM

what i don't understand is that in this modern world of technology and communication, i come across very little info of what life is actually for those in lockdown or what people who have been infected go through and consequences therof except brief snapshots on news reports and the odd tweet here and there...you'd probably know more about the colour of kim kardashians knickers that real life stories of those infected.

Nermal · 17-03-2020 11:05PM

Let’s say we don’t have 15,000 cases at the end of March.

Let’s say it’s 1,500.

Keep the restrictions?

Loosen them?

Indefinite suppression isn’t a plan.

Ficheall · 17-03-2020 11:05PM

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200316/14584244111/
Suing to prevent companies making a vaccine. Sweet f*cking Jesus.

ITman88 · 17-03-2020 11:06PM

pH wrote: »

The main difference between here and the UK is the schools not being closed and that pubs aren't 'officially' closed, just people advised not to use them (To be fair people can sit around in restaurant in Ireland tonight if they want to)

On the other side the UK have been far more proactive about advice to the elderly, Leo's "cocooning" is what Boris has been saying for days now.

As of a few days ago the UK had done roughly 10x the number of tests ireland had, which is reasonably in line with the populations.

My understanding is that the epidemiologist and modellers who put together the UK models think that school closure has a minimal effect on the disease's spread when compared to these children needing alternative arrangements and being cared for by family/friends/grandparents.

Sure they may be wrong, and everyone posting here seems to thinks it's evidence of incompetence or some sort of eugenics program being inflicted on the UK people, but it really isn't. And if it is the wrong decision, it's not wrong by much.

From the model School Closure assumptions:

Household contact rates for student families increase by 50% during closure. Contacts in the community increase by 25% during closure.

Yeah. The UKs approach to the elderly is much more direct. I have said before, we don’t know which approach is correct at this point in the fight of this virus. Next Autumn hopefully we can look back and determine which approach was better. Hopefully we will have the battle won

ceadaoin. · 17-03-2020 11:06PM

Remember when people on here were slating the US for restricting arrivals from china? And when they banned travel from europe? Do they still think it's a bad thing
I wonder?

Ace2007 · 17-03-2020 11:06PM

Nermal wrote: »

Let’s say we don’t have 15,000 cases at the end of March.

Let’s say it’s 1,500.

Keep the restrictions?

Loosen them?

Indefinite suppression isn’t a plan.

Let's look at Italy and Spain then... and see how good/bad it is.

Sober Crappy Chemis · 17-03-2020 11:06PM

Fart wrote: »

I beg to differ.

I’d say you’d beg....

Mervyn Skidmore · 17-03-2020 11:06PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Why is that good?

They might take it seriously.

bekker · 17-03-2020 11:07PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Loads of countries banned flights from China before this. Isreal and Jordan closed travel before the US.

The US have done great things on the crisis recently but were not the first to stop flights.

Time travel paradox again, just window dressing for domestic consumption. Travel bans only have a possibility of being effective for countries which, like China, appear to have it confined and are trying to avoided it kicking-off again.

jam_mac_jam · 17-03-2020 11:07PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

He banned flights from the Eu and quickly added in the UK and Ireland. He was slated for it.

Canada has banned non nationals from entering the country. No grief for Trudeau.

Boris wants the elderly to isolate. Got slated for it

Leo says the same this evening. Calls it cocooning. Not a bad word said against him.

Yeah fair point. I think Trump and the US was dead right banning flights.

In fairness to Trump he changed his approach quite quickly.

spookwoman · 17-03-2020 11:08PM

Some big increases in Europe today and some may sill go up

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP