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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭zpehtsfd


    The people saying "great speech" are the ones with no worries about paying their bills in the next few months.

    Absolutely disgraceful that he failed to address the elephant in the room i.e. how are renters/mortgage holders suppose to pay on 200e a week?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 43,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    I hope a lot of elderly people feel assured and some security after watching that. Compare it to Boris who basically said ye are all gonna die good luck t’ye

    Going to be honest, I hope a good chunk of the elderly got a bit of a wake up call.

    The few times I've been out the last few days, it's the elderly who aren't taking social distancing seriously. I've had to queue up in shops a few times, and young people are spacing out while the elderly, the most at risk group, are all huddling up on everyone.

    I get you don't want panic in general, but the ones most at risk are the ones refusing to adjust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,808 ✭✭✭threeball


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Exactly American and British governments are doing trojan work. Our fool allowed the virus in through the Italian flights but he did a group tested speech tonight so he’s great. Of course it’s the US UK that will create the vaccine but Orange man bad bla bla

    It will be the Germans and Trump is a grade A tit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    JRant wrote: »
    Remember folks, the most important part of his speech was that there is a big Bill coming and it needs to be paid.

    Emergency budget in a month to increase tax rates without a doubt.

    No chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Mr Meanor


    All we were missing were the Spitfires and Hurricanes in the speech


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    statesaver wrote: »
    Trumps press conference today was excellent IMO

    I have to admit, I thought so too.
    The world needs more than a little bit of optimism right now, and nobody does it better.

    Here's a link.
    Ireland get's a compliment (at 1:18:00) for being a "tremendous" producer of pharmaceuticals.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5jdgafH7eM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    People falling over themselves to put him on the highest plinth. It's one scripted speech, let history be the ultimate judge.

    Yes you are right it was only one speech but a good one well delivered.

    History will be the final arbiter but that judgement is a long way off.

    For now, steady as she goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,860 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    11am came and went lads.
    When’s the next bandwagon due in??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    carolmon wrote: »
    I'll be interested to see how long it remains just a "recommendation" and not a requirement


    They are kite flying.
    See what reaction they get.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Hurrache wrote: »
    New SF TD being a dick as par for the course
    [url]

    Ah well no Sinn Fein government and Liverpool don't win the league. Gotta look on the bright side.

    Joking aside I thought speech was good, nothing new really but he comes across as honest and open and people need to see that right now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,509 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    gmisk wrote: »
    Yikes going down like a lead balloon lol

    It's really killing him that the government are getting praise for their handling, and especially Varadkar's speech.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,111 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Anyone hearing 44 year old died in county louth from coronavirus

    We have just been over this.

    Stop with the nonsense at this point.

    As for those giving out. I have forgotten about none of those other issues. However people are talking about the speech. He delivered. It was just a speech but quite frankly that is a high bar for multiple world leaders right now. He did his job well. He won't be solving the entire issue himself.

    He didn't lie about measures coming in. He didn't say it would be easy and he would fix everything. He came across as honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,552 ✭✭✭positron


    Powerful speech. Precise and effective use of words and sentences, clearly setting out the expeditions of each and every one of us, and how it's going to hurt and how Government is doing their part. I

    It was alarming as well as reassuring, but not in a "we will look after you" but more of a "together we will fight it out".

    That is one hell of a caretaker Taoiseach we have here. Really proud of Leo, his team, and the country.

    PS: I was out earlier in town to get take away from out favourite restaurant (who's struggling to cope and is offering take aways now), and I came back completely shaken from seeing how empty and sad everything and everyone looked. People distancing themselves from each other, the fear and worry is in every face and every move they make. Leo's speech shows that Government is fully aware, in it with us, and planning for the long haul. Thank you Taoiseach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Hurrache wrote: »
    New SF TD being a dick as par for the course
    [url]

    i know we're not supposed to get political here, but thank F they are not in power right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,712 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    walshb wrote: »
    No, they haven’t.

    And those ‘crises’ will absolutely outlast this pandemic!!

    Well the hospital one may be sorted as the trolley watch is apparently way down. Maybe people realise you don't have to go to A&E for everything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Leo is thoroughly unlikeable. Disingenuous .

    And 30 quid for a phone call to a GP. Gouging bastards. Heroes my bollocks.

    Yeah we should all work for free while the chronically unemployable get free stuff day in day out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭Tomrota


    maebee wrote: »
    Looks like we can't join the EU shutdown coz of the Brits. We would have to close the border.

    Ridiculous. We’ll be dragged down with them for the rest of time it seems.they were the ones who decided not to enter it. So they’re making decisions for us still.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    I'm not fully convinced on Coveny and vardkar

    They've earned a lot of statesman brownie points with Brexit and Corona

    End of the day they're mostly talking heads with speechwriters and others pulling the strings


  • Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Exactly.not 2 weeks ago he was staring into a flood like a donkey looking up at the moon and all the talk of flood relief and works carried out to prevent it happening.
    Don’t be dazzled by the waffler

    Couldn't agree more, we're not all goldfish. It was a reassuring speech, and more power to Leo. However, some perspective is needed in the face of borderline idolatry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 132 ✭✭Satturnfalls


    Fer jesus sake, id say the man decided to give us a message on saint patricks day. OUR national day that we had to spend indoors and cancel celebrations. Cut varadker some slack. Also pleases don't turn this thread into politics theres enough stuff to worry about wit the virus


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,907 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Well it seems the speach from Leo varadkar has gone down well which isn't surprising as it was a very good speech.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    I can't believe anyone would cry listening to that mealy-mouthed speech. For one thing, the government have not acted soon enough on almost anything. They've actively made the virus sweep the country by not taking measures soon enough and spoonfeeding the public information too late.

    A woman I know who wasn't feeling great in school during last week was finally diagnosed today and her test took so long to come back that several people she worked with were not aware she was awaiting results. Three of her colleagues are now showing symptoms and had no idea that they even needed to self isolate until today. That is what we're dealing with.

    If the system worked, these types of situation would not be occurring with the regularity they are.

    While I understand that speech was made to fill in the public who aren't online, I can't understand why anyone would be upset by what was said, unless you were upset by the person saying it.

    Was there no f*cking HSE briefing today??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Leo is thoroughly unlikeable. Disingenuous .

    And 30 quid for a phone call to a GP. Gouging bastards. Heroes my bollocks.

    Are you working for free?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,959 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    People falling over themselves to put him on the highest plinth. It's one scripted speech, let history be the ultimate judge.

    Useless political point scoring. You have the thread destroyed with this nonsense.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    There's nobody on trolleys. This just proves the GPs and the old folks homes are the reason our a+e's are full. We just need better triage

    I would imagine that our hospitals have been emptying out their beds and postponing elective surgery, that would have freed up space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    I can't believe anyone would cry listening to the mealy-mouthed speech. For one thing, the government have not acted soon enough on almost anything. They've actively made the virus sweep the country by not taking measures soon enough and spoonfeeding the public information too late.

    A woman I know who wasn't feeling great in school during last week was finally diagnosed today and because her test took so long. Several people she worked with were not aware she was awaiting results. Three of her colleagues are now showing symptoms.

    If the system worked, these types of situation would not be occurring with the regularity they are.

    While I understand that speech was made to fill in the public who aren't online, I can't understand why anyone would be upset by what was said, unless you were upset by the person saying it.

    Was there no f*cking HSE briefing today??

    The hatred for Leo runs pretty deep for plenty


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭2016


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Going to be honest, I hope a good chunk of the elderly got a bit of a wake up call.

    The few times I've been out the last few days, it's the elderly who aren't taking social distancing seriously. I've had to queue up in shops a few times, and young people are spacing out while the elderly, the most at risk group, are all huddling up on everyone.

    I get you don't want panic in general, but the ones most at risk are the ones refusing to adjust.

    Bingo!

    I've talked to only 4 >70 year olds, but the complacency was shocking ("if I get it, I get it"). They needed a wake-up call.

    This speech alone will save a few lives if it gets them to cop on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    fuerte1976 wrote: »
    Agree. And I'm no fan of FG. Covney is the real deal here ..

    Simon Coveney has been outstanding for the last 2 years - through Brexit and now this.

    I'm no fan of Leo but in fairness he was excellent this evening. I know he has speech writers and all that but I get a genuine sense that our government know what they're doing and they're in control and making sure we're informed. Nor will they be afraid to take tough decisions if and when necessary.

    Simon Harris has played a blinder too.

    Finally, the HSE crew (Tony Holohan, Paul Reid et al) inspire confidence and assurance.

    Once they got the fiasco of the St Patrick's Day parade over with, they've been on the ball and they're maintaining control.

    I get the impression they're expecting banks to do the decent thing - they should be able to look at individual cases and apply common sense. The politicians have made numerous references in recent days to the fact that the taxpayers bailed out the banks. I work in an industry that is going to be seriously impacted by the virus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    JRant wrote: »
    Remember folks, the most important part of his speech was that there is a big Bill coming and it needs to be paid.

    Emergency budget in a month to increase tax rates without a doubt.

    Yeah I noticed that too, but what did we expect. They are supporting a lot of citizens right now to minimise the overall damage.

    If they didn't take these measures then they'd be wrong so I'm sure like many others I won't mind paying extra if I still have my loved ones plus a job when we come out the other side.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Bravo to speech. However, masking lack of planning re testing kits and equipment. Wtf have the HSE been doing for the last month? The fûkin dogs on the street knew what was needed. Quoting Churchill FFS, Enda kennyesque.
    Leo did a good job tonight, though context played to his strengths, and whoever put it together is irrelevant.

    Presentation struck the needed note for domestic and international audiences, did the Churchillian bit a lot better than BoJo.

    For what's worth, wouldn't for vote him, and haven't voted for his ilk.


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