CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

igCorcaigh · 17-03-2020 08:01PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Vast majority of cinemas are closed. Likewise alot of restaurants made the decision to close

Talking to my mam on the phone, McDonald's was packed. And not just for takeaway. Crazy stuff, and this is only the first week.

Humberto Salazar · 17-03-2020 08:02PM

grindle wrote: »

Presume the worst to prepare for it. 275 cases. 20% of cases are severe as in needing hospitalisation. Not seeking it, but needing it. Near 60 people who need repirators in Ireland, all in one month, in a country that keeps less than 300 respirators for normal business.

20-30% reduction in lung capacity for people who get through it, lung cancer will increase over the next 2-3 decades due to dead cells mutating or being cockblocked. The new norm.

"Be grand"

I hope the people who went to Cheltenham and Templebar last week choke on their own stupidity.

I'm not sure what all that means, but I'm damned if I want my lungs cockblocked at any stage.

Cork Boy 53 · 17-03-2020 08:03PM

shesty wrote: »

I know for definite of 3 recovered -they were in and out of ICU in a week, or slightly less.
I read yesterday somewhere that there were 4 recovered around the Limerick region too, I will try to find that link.

Were any of them on ventilators?

pjohnson · 17-03-2020 08:03PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Talking to my mam on the phone, McDonald's was packed. And not just for takeaway. Crazy stuff, and this is only the first week.

See if someone knew the county was riddled they might realise this is real and actually fúcking do something. The vagueness probably makes them think "ah sure its not here so lets gather up".

If we've learned anything from this its that Irish are stupid.

martingriff · 17-03-2020 08:03PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Which is why people should not be alarmed if the numbers rocket up into the high hundreds this week. It's next week onward that we need to watch.

Well if it take 14 days maybe 2 weeks to see any drastic change

lucalux · 17-03-2020 08:04PM

One problem with lumping all the HSE administrative areas in together, and not naming counties (as they said they would be doing this week)..

In Aldi last night and the guy serving me at till, was chatting to a woman behind me laughing about washing his hands and saying "sure there's nobody around here that has it". This was in Longford. Not really considered the East, midlands really.

Now he was also having the chats with this woman who came right up beside me to the end of the till where i was packing my shopping, to chat to him.

I moved away..she was oblivious to me doing so. Was gonna say something to her, but was far enough away at that stage (1.5m) and had all packed into trolley.

I called Aldi today and asked them to have a word, as I'd say he's the kinda lad wouldn't wash his hands on a normal day, never mind these days.

Felt like leaving my groceries there and walking out tbh

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 17-03-2020 08:04PM

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

It's good though that there are still people around to say "I told you so"

I know, right? "I told you so" is the most pointless utterance. There's a reason children are taught not to say it.

bekker · 17-03-2020 08:04PM

We a need government initiated graphic media campaign to get this message across to the younger people. I don't believe the overwhelming majority of young are less caring of others than I was at that age, but rather feckless through ignorance. They've been fed memes of COVID-19 only being a concern to over 60s, and by implication not really been something that affects them.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/03/coronavirus-new-graph-shows-people-in-their-20s-are-more-asymptomatic-and-not-being-tested-for-covid-19/_jcr_content/par/image.dynimg.full.q75.jpg/v1584331512348/medium-andreas-backhaus-graph-coronavirus-ages-south-korea-italy-1120.jpg

"Italy has predominantly been testing people with symptoms of a coronavirus infection, while South Korea has been testing basically everyone since the outbreak had become apparent," Backhaus says.

"Consequently, South Korea has detected more asymptomatic, but positive cases of coronavirus than Italy, in particular among young people."

The graph suggests that although younger people may feel fine they are in fact contagious. medium-andreas-backhaus-graph-coronavirus-ages-south-korea-italy-1120.jpg

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"Italy has predominantly been testing people with symptoms of a coronavirus infection, while South Korea has been testing basically everyone since the outbreak had become apparent," Backhaus says.

"Consequently, South Korea has detected more asymptomatic, but positive cases of coronavirus than Italy, in particular among young people."

'The graph suggests that although younger people may feel fine they are in fact contagious.'

Lord TSC · 17-03-2020 08:04PM

pjohnson wrote: »

See if someone knew the county was riddled they might realise this is real and actually fúcking do something. The vagueness probably makes them think "ah sure its not here so lets gather up".

If we've learned anything from this its that Irish are stupid.

I don't know if it's "stupidity".

For a lot of people, the problem is so massively difficult to understand, and so normalcy bias kicks in. Until it's someone they know personally, the numbers mean nothing to them.

Unless the government steps in and slams the country shut, a LOT of people will presume its ok to keep going with their normal lives.

I Am The Law · 17-03-2020 08:05PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Talking to my mam on the phone, McDonald's was packed. And not just for takeaway. Crazy stuff, and this is only the first week.

Does she work in Mc Donald's?ðŸ€¢ðŸ™„

martingriff · 17-03-2020 08:06PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Vast majority of cinemas are closed. Likewise alot of restaurants made the decision to close

I think if your a small cafe or restaurant that can move around table for social distancing and not do reservations I say you could stay open but then you will have people give out that they are staying open I suppose. People still need to eat

igCorcaigh · 17-03-2020 08:06PM

I Am The Law wrote: »

Does she work in Mc Donald's?ðŸ€¢ðŸ™„

LOL, she went for a drive about town.

leavingirl · 17-03-2020 08:07PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Volkswagen Group closing its factories

14 million people across Europe will not be at work next week then.

Loafing Oaf · 17-03-2020 08:07PM

Xertz wrote: »

I'd add though food prep people should be wearing masks and disposable globes at this stage. It's quite feasible that someone could sneeze onto food and it's not going to be necessarily hot enough to kill off bugs.

Indeed. If delivery/carry-out food services were done properly they shouldn't be a significant risk but there's no way of ensuring that...

elperello · 17-03-2020 08:07PM

threeball wrote: »

Completely agree, people should be given a carbon limit for travel. If they want to do more they need to buy it from someone who doesn't want it. This crack of heading off to portugal to the holiday home every month or two, or taking city breaks is completely unsustainable. The world needs a major rethink after this. Climate Change will make this thing look like a teddy bears picnic.

+1

I've suggested that before, a kind of travel carbon passport.

Instead we are charging the poor extra for a bale of briquettes while the privileged party on.

893bet · 17-03-2020 08:07PM

grindle wrote: »

Presume the worst to prepare for it. 275 cases. 20% of cases are severe as in needing hospitalisation. Not seeking it, but needing it. Near 60 people who need repirators in Ireland, all in one month, in a country that keeps less than 300 respirators for normal business.

20-30% reduction in lung capacity for people who get through it, lung cancer will increase over the next 2-3 decades due to dead cells mutating or being cockblocked. The new norm.

"Be grand"

I hope the people who went to Cheltenham and Templebar last week choke on their own stupidity.

More scaremongering,

I mean just **** off.

pjohnson · 17-03-2020 08:07PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

I don't know if it's "stupidity".

For a lot of people, the problem is so massively difficult to understand, and so normalcy bias kicks in. Until it's someone they know personally, the numbers mean nothing to them.

Unless the government steps in and slams the country shut, a LOT of people will presume its ok to keep going with their normal lives.

Tbf we had people flocking to Cheltenham , going on holidays to area's known to be infected, and crowding into pubs so we are not the brightest bunch.

jimwallace197 · 17-03-2020 08:08PM

I Am The Law wrote: »

Does she work in Mc Donald's?&#55356;&#56354;&#55357;&#56900;

Cop yourself on and show some respect

Xertz · 17-03-2020 08:08PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Indeed. If delivery/carry-out food services were done properly they shouldn't be a significant risk but there's no way of ensuring that...

The Food Safety Authority has significant resources and could be deployed to solve this!

cosanostra · 17-03-2020 08:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Surely its reckless to ask retirees back to work on frontline??

Like put them out back on contact tracing etc??

Our health system still has to deal with other illnesses lets not forget that someone admitted to hospital with the virus wont be in the same ward as someone who is recovering from a heart attack so our retired health workers will fit in there perfectly also have nursing units which cant have the virus entering it so thats another place they can be deployed

caveat emptor · 17-03-2020 08:08PM

Lord TSC wrote: »

I don't know if it's "stupidity".

For a lot of people, the problem is so massively difficult to understand, and so normalcy bias kicks in. Until it's someone they know personally, the numbers mean nothing to them.

Unless the government steps in and slams the country shut, a LOT of people will presume its ok to keep going with their normal lives.

Yeah I wonder how many Typhoid Mary and Joes are walking around. Scary **** these days to know someone who is ignorant and busy.

otnomart · 17-03-2020 08:09PM

glasso wrote: »

I've heard mentioned in a couple of places that many now think that the initial cases in Italy came from someone who was connected to an outbreak in Bavaria at a car parts firm.

Yes.
Research has established the samples from Italy are all related to Bavaria Patient 1 (shortened in BavPat1), who was infected by a colleague from China.
Source: https://nextstrain.org/
Germany initially assumed they had fully contained the Bavaria outbreak - but now we know they didn't.
Article from the New England Journal of Medicine
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...d-mnX3d9F_WRzM

Other Countries in Europe got cases with a direct connection to China.
For example, the Netherlands.
Again, see https://nextstrain.org/

I Am The Law · 17-03-2020 08:10PM

jimwallace197 wrote: »

Cop yourself on and show some respect

I have a lot of respect for Mc Donald's workers.

spookwoman · 17-03-2020 08:10PM

all sheets updated

Jenna James · 17-03-2020 08:10PM

elperello wrote: »

+1

I've suggested that before, a kind of travel carbon passport.

Instead we are charging the poor extra for a bale of briquettes while the privileged party on.

Cheltenham- we shall have our cake and eat it.

DulchieLaois · 17-03-2020 08:10PM

To stop this - simply close airports and ports and then self isolate for 1 - 2 months which will eventually solve the whole issue

This is it · 17-03-2020 08:11PM

pjohnson wrote: »

See if someone knew the county was riddled they might realise this is real and actually fúcking do something. The vagueness probably makes them think "ah sure its not here so lets gather up".

If we've learned anything from this its that Irish are stupid.

If people haven't copped on it's their own fault. There should be no need for hand holding considering the coverage and the numbers coming from Italy and Spain. Some people are stupid, not much we can do, they'll stay stupid.

Westernyelp · 17-03-2020 08:11PM

jimwallace197 wrote: »

Cop yourself on and show some respect

Do YOU work in McDonalds?

saabsaab · 17-03-2020 08:11PM

pjohnson wrote: »

The Cheltenham wasters would be imported cases.

Are they not self isolating?

GM228 · 17-03-2020 08:11PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Volkswagen Group closing its factories

Fiat Chrysler, the PSA Group and Renault announced the same yesterday.

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP