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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,680 ✭✭✭Chong


    Seeing a lot of folk on personal social channels , WhatsApp, Insta getting out and about. I am all for a walk but not in areas like Glendalough etc with it being so busy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,118 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Xertz wrote: »
    Methodologies may be differing across different countries both in terms of testing and what's being reported.

    I would be a little careful about making direct comparisons right now.

    They're all doing their own thing.

    All you can really look at is trends. They're showing what's working and what isn't.

    Germany and S Korea are two outliers with their death numbers - are S Korea doing the same as Germany?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 816 ✭✭✭Macdarack


    threeball wrote: »
    Why does it matter so much. If they told you the virus was on your street would you move out?

    Obviously not but you'd be more prudent with social distances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,586 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Close them all. The REI head said the same this morning on RTE Radio 1.

    What's your obsession with shutting everything down, cinemas are an obvious thing to close but people need food and if restaurants can provide food in a safe manner(drive thru or delivery) they should be encouraged to stay open IMO


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    The distancing measures will work, but the reduced rate of spread might not be apparent due to increased testing picking up on more cases.

    Let's not be quick to lose faith in social distancing when we look at daily case numbers over the next couple of weeks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    So my wife won't get sick pay here in Spain, check this - she would have to get infected with the CoronaVirus to receive sick pay.



    F*cking third world sh1thole!!!

    Can't even get the dole here - unless you get fired , it's a f*cking joke!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭Volthar


    The government should be even more decisive and close down amenities /shut down activities that promote social gathering i.e. shopping centres, food and cafe outlets where sit-down/ eat in is provided and any other shopping outlets such as clothing stores for next two weeks.

    They should also clearly communicate that while lockdown is not envisaged at present, it cannot be ruled out if people do not respect the custom of social distancing during the restricted period, with emergency powers sought to enforce this if necessary.

    I am sure this is on the table and will be introduced when it becomes necessary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    The virus spread to Italy by a single individual. That individual was from Germany, who had been infected at his business by a visitor from China, who in term had been infected from their relatives visiting them from Wuhan.

    It can actually be traced to a specific individual?


    The individual from Germany, was he in Italy or Germany when he contracted? Did he stay in Italy, or head back to Germany?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,034 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    begbysback wrote: »
    This can only be a good thing, people will then take more precautions not to affect others - its the serious cases, and death numbers that we want to keep low.

    People should be doing this anyway. Thats why I think county breakdown help more. If a county is very bad it might encourage people to stop going cinema/restaurants/gathering in large crowds etc.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,400 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Macdarack wrote: »
    Obviously not but you'd be more prudent with social distances.

    Would you be less prudent if no cases were reported in your street?


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    I know for definite of 3 recovered -they were in and out of ICU in a week, or slightly less.
    I read yesterday somewhere that there were 4 recovered around the Limerick region too, I will try to find that link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Ireland growth so far

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    Going exponential:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,342 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Xertz wrote: »
    A lot of places that aren't drive through could become so too.

    Put menus up in your carpark and sort out your phones to take orders.

    It's not 1974 and you don't necessarily need to be setup like a McDonnalds drive thru with speakers and all of that.

    Just text in the orders. Deliver them to car windows in the carpark

    A bit of creativity and thinking outside the box could keep a lot of stuff flowing and remain very safe.

    All the delivery sites will also make a mint if places stay open also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,856 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    So my wife won't get sick pay here in Spain, check this - she would have to get infected with the CoronaVirus to receive sick pay.



    F*cking third world sh1thole!!!

    Can't even get the dole here - unless you get fired , it's a f*cking joke!!!

    Take a shìt on the bosses desk, sorted!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Germanys numbers make no sense when compared with France or Spain, even if you take their low deaths as being true their recovered and serious/critical numbers can not be accurate


    They have a great health service and 5 times more respirators per capita than the UK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    The government just needs to shutdown all non essential services now tonight. The pussyfooting around has got to stop. Another few days will be too late.

    You've said this for the last few days. No point in saying the same thing over and over again.

    From being out on the roads yesterday it was like Christmas day, people are listening to the advice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,840 ✭✭✭smallgarden


    http://https://images.app.goo.gl/J1nNB9ZLpSDAnuUZ8

    Possible way they are breaking down the cases. Map of hse adminstrative areas. Two on right are probably combined to cover the East


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    threeball wrote: »
    Apparently Germany don't count it as a Coronavirus death if there is pre-existing conditions. I don't think this variance helps matters. Europe should have a standard output of figures.

    I agree. Italy has is now very transparent for that reason. If you don't measure the problem accurately you have no idea of the size of the problem or if the measures you are adopting are working. Something strange went on at the start. They had 3 cases for ages and in one weekend it jumped to 150. They were either trying desperately to trace patient zero and then realised the info when it became obvious it was impossible or they really didn't know they had an epidemic.

    I get the feeling that most countries have fudged numbers big time for whatever reason.
    • different testing criteria
    • not testing
    • running out of tests
    • attributing deaths to other diseases
    • mild / moderate includes pneumonia

    Impossible to make comparisons.

    Japan seem to be doing quite well at containing it. They closed schools early which undoubtedly helped.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Germany and S Korea are two outliers with their death numbers - are S Korea doing the same as Germany?

    Can't answer that without knowing the details of how they're doing. It's something the WHO should probably be looking at though as the information could well be having a huge influence on how people are reacting i.e. assuming that they're overwhelmed relative to other countries, when it's possible they're just doing a far better job of testing and reporting.

    It's unclear and needs work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,342 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Macdarack wrote: »
    Obviously not but you'd be more prudent with social distances.

    AND this is why they are not telling people as you think now in my area I will be relaxed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,329 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    The distancing measures will work, but the reduced rate of spread might not be apparent due to increased testing picking up on more cases.

    Let's not be quick to lose faith in social distancing when we look at daily case numbers over the next couple of weeks.

    Which is why people should not be alarmed if the numbers rocket up into the high hundreds this week. It's next week onward that we need to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Snowbiee21


    The local Chipper have lads with no gloves on ... man


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Renjit wrote: »
    Going exponential:pac:

    Glad you’re so excited about it with your silly smiley.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    walshb wrote: »
    I agree. Cinemas and fast food joints and restaurants all still open...

    Vast majority of cinemas are closed. Likewise alot of restaurants made the decision to close


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    begbysback wrote: »
    It can actually be traced to a specific individual?


    The individual from Germany, was he in Italy or Germany when he contracted? Did he stay in Italy, or head back to Germany?

    I think theres certain gentic things can be traced....afaik up to few days ago most irish cases were traced to 3 seperate people coming back from italy



    What the genitic thing is,well thats beyond my understanding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,774 ✭✭✭threeball


    I'm down with that. I've been really thinking the last few years about how much travelling I'm really entitled to. Some of the overcrowding in cities I've visited in the last few years has sickened me and I'm very well aware that I'm part of the problem. I think everyone should travel less, to be honest. Better for the environment and makes life bearable for people living in the tourist hotspots.

    Completely agree, people should be given a carbon limit for travel. If they want to do more they need to buy it from someone who doesn't want it. This crack of heading off to portugal to the holiday home every month or two, or taking city breaks is completely unsustainable. The world needs a major rethink after this. Climate Change will make this thing look like a teddy bears picnic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,081 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Fcuking hell 292 cases in the south of Ireland, 350 in the whole of Ireland.

    Are they going to introduce any more measures to control this?

    There's no talk of how much are serious cases?

    I think they need to release more detailed information about the confirmed cases, the speculation by all including myself is not helping and driving me more insane


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    I'd add though food prep people should be wearing masks and disposable globes at this stage. It's quite feasible that someone could sneeze onto food and it's not going to be necessarily hot enough to kill off bugs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    Large chinese population too,afaik textile industrt is based there

    Upto few weeks ago a direct flight from wuhan to italy was possible (only to rome i think,though)


    Italy stopped China flights on 31 January


    https://www.aerospace-technology.com/news/italy-israel-ban-flights-china/



    The cases in Italy originated from the Bavaria outbreak at the end of January.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,011 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    GM228 wrote: »
    Where's the "social distancing"?

    What's the point if you cram them like sardines ? The organisers are idiots


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