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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,332 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Macdarack wrote: »
    Obviously not but you'd be more prudent with social distances.

    Would you be less prudent if no cases were reported in your street?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    I know for definite of 3 recovered -they were in and out of ICU in a week, or slightly less.
    I read yesterday somewhere that there were 4 recovered around the Limerick region too, I will try to find that link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    Ireland growth so far

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    Going exponential:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,712 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Xertz wrote: »
    A lot of places that aren't drive through could become so too.

    Put menus up in your carpark and sort out your phones to take orders.

    It's not 1974 and you don't necessarily need to be setup like a McDonnalds drive thru with speakers and all of that.

    Just text in the orders. Deliver them to car windows in the carpark

    A bit of creativity and thinking outside the box could keep a lot of stuff flowing and remain very safe.

    All the delivery sites will also make a mint if places stay open also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,184 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    So my wife won't get sick pay here in Spain, check this - she would have to get infected with the CoronaVirus to receive sick pay.



    F*cking third world sh1thole!!!

    Can't even get the dole here - unless you get fired , it's a f*cking joke!!!

    Take a shìt on the bosses desk, sorted!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    VinLieger wrote: »
    Germanys numbers make no sense when compared with France or Spain, even if you take their low deaths as being true their recovered and serious/critical numbers can not be accurate


    They have a great health service and 5 times more respirators per capita than the UK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    The government just needs to shutdown all non essential services now tonight. The pussyfooting around has got to stop. Another few days will be too late.

    You've said this for the last few days. No point in saying the same thing over and over again.

    From being out on the roads yesterday it was like Christmas day, people are listening to the advice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭smallgarden


    http://https://images.app.goo.gl/J1nNB9ZLpSDAnuUZ8

    Possible way they are breaking down the cases. Map of hse adminstrative areas. Two on right are probably combined to cover the East


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    threeball wrote: »
    Apparently Germany don't count it as a Coronavirus death if there is pre-existing conditions. I don't think this variance helps matters. Europe should have a standard output of figures.

    I agree. Italy has is now very transparent for that reason. If you don't measure the problem accurately you have no idea of the size of the problem or if the measures you are adopting are working. Something strange went on at the start. They had 3 cases for ages and in one weekend it jumped to 150. They were either trying desperately to trace patient zero and then realised the info when it became obvious it was impossible or they really didn't know they had an epidemic.

    I get the feeling that most countries have fudged numbers big time for whatever reason.
    • different testing criteria
    • not testing
    • running out of tests
    • attributing deaths to other diseases
    • mild / moderate includes pneumonia

    Impossible to make comparisons.

    Japan seem to be doing quite well at containing it. They closed schools early which undoubtedly helped.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Germany and S Korea are two outliers with their death numbers - are S Korea doing the same as Germany?

    Can't answer that without knowing the details of how they're doing. It's something the WHO should probably be looking at though as the information could well be having a huge influence on how people are reacting i.e. assuming that they're overwhelmed relative to other countries, when it's possible they're just doing a far better job of testing and reporting.

    It's unclear and needs work.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,712 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Macdarack wrote: »
    Obviously not but you'd be more prudent with social distances.

    AND this is why they are not telling people as you think now in my area I will be relaxed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,424 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    The distancing measures will work, but the reduced rate of spread might not be apparent due to increased testing picking up on more cases.

    Let's not be quick to lose faith in social distancing when we look at daily case numbers over the next couple of weeks.

    Which is why people should not be alarmed if the numbers rocket up into the high hundreds this week. It's next week onward that we need to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 838 ✭✭✭Snowbiee21


    The local Chipper have lads with no gloves on ... man


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Renjit wrote: »
    Going exponential:pac:

    Glad you’re so excited about it with your silly smiley.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    walshb wrote: »
    I agree. Cinemas and fast food joints and restaurants all still open...

    Vast majority of cinemas are closed. Likewise alot of restaurants made the decision to close


  • Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    begbysback wrote: »
    It can actually be traced to a specific individual?


    The individual from Germany, was he in Italy or Germany when he contracted? Did he stay in Italy, or head back to Germany?

    I think theres certain gentic things can be traced....afaik up to few days ago most irish cases were traced to 3 seperate people coming back from italy



    What the genitic thing is,well thats beyond my understanding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭threeball


    I'm down with that. I've been really thinking the last few years about how much travelling I'm really entitled to. Some of the overcrowding in cities I've visited in the last few years has sickened me and I'm very well aware that I'm part of the problem. I think everyone should travel less, to be honest. Better for the environment and makes life bearable for people living in the tourist hotspots.

    Completely agree, people should be given a carbon limit for travel. If they want to do more they need to buy it from someone who doesn't want it. This crack of heading off to portugal to the holiday home every month or two, or taking city breaks is completely unsustainable. The world needs a major rethink after this. Climate Change will make this thing look like a teddy bears picnic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Fcuking hell 292 cases in the south of Ireland, 350 in the whole of Ireland.

    Are they going to introduce any more measures to control this?

    There's no talk of how much are serious cases?

    I think they need to release more detailed information about the confirmed cases, the speculation by all including myself is not helping and driving me more insane


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    I'd add though food prep people should be wearing masks and disposable globes at this stage. It's quite feasible that someone could sneeze onto food and it's not going to be necessarily hot enough to kill off bugs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭otnomart


    Large chinese population too,afaik textile industrt is based there

    Upto few weeks ago a direct flight from wuhan to italy was possible (only to rome i think,though)


    Italy stopped China flights on 31 January


    https://www.aerospace-technology.com/news/italy-israel-ban-flights-china/



    The cases in Italy originated from the Bavaria outbreak at the end of January.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,117 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    GM228 wrote: »
    Where's the "social distancing"?

    What's the point if you cram them like sardines ? The organisers are idiots


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,332 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Vast majority of cinemas are closed. Likewise alot of restaurants made the decision to close

    Talking to my mam on the phone, McDonald's was packed. And not just for takeaway. Crazy stuff, and this is only the first week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    grindle wrote: »
    Presume the worst to prepare for it. 275 cases. 20% of cases are severe as in needing hospitalisation. Not seeking it, but needing it. Near 60 people who need repirators in Ireland, all in one month, in a country that keeps less than 300 respirators for normal business.

    20-30% reduction in lung capacity for people who get through it, lung cancer will increase over the next 2-3 decades due to dead cells mutating or being cockblocked. The new norm.

    "Be grand"

    I hope the people who went to Cheltenham and Templebar last week choke on their own stupidity.

    I'm not sure what all that means, but I'm damned if I want my lungs cockblocked at any stage.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    shesty wrote: »
    I know for definite of 3 recovered -they were in and out of ICU in a week, or slightly less.
    I read yesterday somewhere that there were 4 recovered around the Limerick region too, I will try to find that link.

    Were any of them on ventilators?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,589 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Talking to my mam on the phone, McDonald's was packed. And not just for takeaway. Crazy stuff, and this is only the first week.

    See if someone knew the county was riddled they might realise this is real and actually fúcking do something. The vagueness probably makes them think "ah sure its not here so lets gather up".

    If we've learned anything from this its that Irish are stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,712 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Which is why people should not be alarmed if the numbers rocket up into the high hundreds this week. It's next week onward that we need to watch.

    Well if it take 14 days maybe 2 weeks to see any drastic change


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,642 ✭✭✭lucalux


    One problem with lumping all the HSE administrative areas in together, and not naming counties (as they said they would be doing this week)..

    In Aldi last night and the guy serving me at till, was chatting to a woman behind me laughing about washing his hands and saying "sure there's nobody around here that has it". This was in Longford. Not really considered the East, midlands really.

    Now he was also having the chats with this woman who came right up beside me to the end of the till where i was packing my shopping, to chat to him.


    I moved away..she was oblivious to me doing so. Was gonna say something to her, but was far enough away at that stage (1.5m) and had all packed into trolley.

    I called Aldi today and asked them to have a word, as I'd say he's the kinda lad wouldn't wash his hands on a normal day, never mind these days.

    Felt like leaving my groceries there and walking out tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    It's good though that there are still people around to say "I told you so"

    I know, right? "I told you so" is the most pointless utterance. There's a reason children are taught not to say it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    We a need government initiated graphic media campaign to get this message across to the younger people. I don't believe the overwhelming majority of young are less caring of others than I was at that age, but rather feckless through ignorance. They've been fed memes of COVID-19 only being a concern to over 60s, and by implication not really been something that affects them.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2020/03/coronavirus-new-graph-shows-people-in-their-20s-are-more-asymptomatic-and-not-being-tested-for-covid-19/_jcr_content/par/image.dynimg.full.q75.jpg/v1584331512348/medium-andreas-backhaus-graph-coronavirus-ages-south-korea-italy-1120.jpg

    "Italy has predominantly been testing people with symptoms of a coronavirus infection, while South Korea has been testing basically everyone since the outbreak had become apparent," Backhaus says.

    "Consequently, South Korea has detected more asymptomatic, but positive cases of coronavirus than Italy, in particular among young people."

    The graph suggests that although younger people may feel fine they are in fact contagious.medium-andreas-backhaus-graph-coronavirus-ages-south-korea-italy-1120.jpg

    "Italy has predominantly been testing people with symptoms of a coronavirus infection, while South Korea has been testing basically everyone since the outbreak had become apparent," Backhaus says.

    "Consequently, South Korea has detected more asymptomatic, but positive cases of coronavirus than Italy, in particular among young people."

    'The graph suggests that although younger people may feel fine they are in fact contagious.'


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 43,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    pjohnson wrote: »
    See if someone knew the county was riddled they might realise this is real and actually fúcking do something. The vagueness probably makes them think "ah sure its not here so lets gather up".

    If we've learned anything from this its that Irish are stupid.

    I don't know if it's "stupidity".

    For a lot of people, the problem is so massively difficult to understand, and so normalcy bias kicks in. Until it's someone they know personally, the numbers mean nothing to them.

    Unless the government steps in and slams the country shut, a LOT of people will presume its ok to keep going with their normal lives.


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