CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

all about the mane · 17-03-2020 06:32PM

owlbethere wrote: »

Would Ireland turn out better if we added in one of Boris Johnsons techniques and if Ireland was to ask the over 70s to self isolate or reduce their - outings. Our health service might be able to cope a little bit better.

Any over 70 I know is already doing this. Some of them are absolutely terrified.

irishgeo · 17-03-2020 06:33PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Statistics with detailed breakdown on cases to date will be released on Friday and thereafter on a weekly basis, to be accurate in documenting cases up to day before release. Will detail how many cases by region, county, how many were via community transmission and presumably how many cases to date are recovered and are in ICU currently.

Hopefully the amount of people recovered which gives us a little hope.

MD1990 · 17-03-2020 06:33PM

kingshankly wrote: »

There’s very little upside to any of this but maybe one is when all this blows over we will be left with a better health system than we had previously

far less people to treat if it gets very bad especially as people with underlying condictions are most vulnerable

Christy42 · 17-03-2020 06:33PM

owlbethere wrote: »

Would Ireland turn out better if we added in one of Boris Johnsons techniques and if Ireland was to ask the over 70s to self isolate or reduce their - outings. Our health service might be able to cope a little bit better.

??? We asked everyone to reduce their outings. Over 70s included. If we wanted to be more like the Brits we would ask the under 70s to increase their outings but that does not seem sensible.

Sorry I really can't make sense of the post.

17-03-2020 06:33PM

wakka12 wrote: »

I would say it corresponds with the provinces so probably south

I’m in Leitrim which is Connaught. Connaught would be west but I’m sure I’d be north west.

Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan are ulster but they aren’t all in the same N, S, E, W area.

It’s still too confusing b

caveat emptor · 17-03-2020 06:34PM

landofthetree wrote: »

The HSE said it has procured an additional 300 ventilators, on top of the 500 it already has & has been assured of an additional 100 ventilators per week, going forward.

Great news to be fair.

Did the they mention anything about the staff need to operate them. From what I've read it's highly specialised and so the staff could be the limiting factor even if we have the machines.

iguana · 17-03-2020 06:34PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Would Limerick be classed as South or West even?

It’s known as the mid-western region, so most likely west. We also seemed to come under west when the doctor from Clare was described as having worked in a hospital in the west, which was later confirmed as Limerick. If Limerick really isn’t as badly infected, proportionately, as Dublin and Cork, then clamping down hard on the spread of local infections so UHL can act as a support for Cork makes more sense than allowing the mid-west to develop it’s own growth.

Martina1991 · 17-03-2020 06:34PM

trapp wrote:

The vast, vast majority of the 69 new cases today will recover, most without even needing hospital care.

This.

A positive result is not a death sentence or cause for panic.

The Sligo Champion today had a report from an ED consultant.
2 cases in Sligo. Both are in isolation recovering at home and doing well.

Sometimes we need to take our heads out of the stats.
The most important numbers are those in critical care as an indication of how the health service is coping.

screamer · 17-03-2020 06:34PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Ireland now 17th in the world of cases per pop million

Ahead of Us, UK ,China and one place below South Korea

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

I’m not overly concerned we’ve kicked into high gear testing now, so our numbers will likely sky rocket, but in other countries who are not testing so much, just cause you haven’t tested doesn’t mean it’s not there....

owlbethere · 17-03-2020 06:35PM

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

You'll be shot down because very few agree with Johnson's approach, and because the 'Brits' aren't doing what we're doing.

I wouldn't be suggesting to do this instead of what we are doing but adding it on to what we are doing already.

17-03-2020 06:35PM

Interested to see Italy’s latest numbers. They dropped a bit yesterday. Hopefully that continues for them.

Irish_peppa · 17-03-2020 06:35PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Ireland now 17th in the world of cases per pop million

Ahead of Us, UK ,China and one place below South Korea

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

But sure if Idris Elba has it and has no symptoms couldnt 50% of the population have this virus allready and not even know !

Cupatae · 17-03-2020 06:36PM

Seen this on facebook,

Not conjecture, not a meme, just math. Re-post:

If you're wondering why Public Health keeps saying the window is closing to stop the spread, here's why. The numbers tell us the reality. In Italy, on Feb 20, they had 4 confirmed cases. By March 15, less than a month, they had 24747 cases. Each day they had an average 27% increase.

In USA, on March 2, they had 100 cases. By March 15, in less than 2 weeks, they had 3680 cases. They are at a 32% daily increase.

In the UK, on March 5, they had 116 cases. By March 15, in 10 days, they had 1391 cases. They have a 29% daily increase.

In Iran, on Feb 25, they had 95 cases. By March 15, in less than a month, they had 13938 cases. Iran is at a 32% daily increase

The average daily increase over 4 countries is 30%.

Canada and Alberta is following this trend. Two days ago Alberta had 29 cases, then the next day 39 cases, then the next day 56 cases. The average trend is a daily increase of over 34%. Currently in Canada we have 341 cases. In 2 weeks at the end of March we are estimated to have 22700 cases in Canada.

In Alberta we have 56 cases. We are estimated by end of March to have 3732 cases in Alberta. If 10% of these cases require ICU, that is 373 ICU beds needed. The province only has 300 ICU beds across the entire province capable of intubation.

That means in just 2 weeks our entire health care system could be overwhelmed and we will be faced with questions of who lives and who dies.

The government is not overreacting when they put bans and restrictions in place. This is why the window to stop the spread is very narrow and why strict restrictions and closures are necessary. This is why we have to follow the regulations of government as our civic duty. We need a healthy amount of fear and understanding at this time, not panic, and not complacency, but the right kind of fear that leads to timely action.

walshb · 17-03-2020 06:37PM

Irish_peppa wrote: »

But sure if Idris Elba has it and has no symptoms couldnt 50% of the population have this virus allready and not even know !

I’d be wary these celebs and their virus claims....

Anything for column inches.

VinLieger · 17-03-2020 06:37PM

I know an Irish family living in Illinois, their daughter just flew home from Madrid, no checks entering the states and when it was suggested to her parents to isolate her they didnt see the need. These two people i would consider sensible and aware of Irish media but it really just shows the message has not yet gotten across in the states.

Strazdas · 17-03-2020 06:37PM

screamer wrote: »

I’m not overly concerned we’ve kicked into high gear testing now, so our numbers will likely sky rocket, but in other countries who are not testing so much, just cause you haven’t tested doesn’t mean it’s not there....

Dr Holohan says we won't know for a few days yet just what impact the drastic measures are having. Expect the Irish numbers to keep shooting up all of this week.

wadacrack · 17-03-2020 06:37PM

A high number of athletes (NBA/Footballers) appear to be asymptomatic.

Good news in a sense that the death rate maybe over estimated but terrible news in terms of containment

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 17-03-2020 06:37PM

walshb wrote: »

The vagueness in the areas affected is odd.

Surely if they released some more clear detail, people would be extra vigilant?

Not saying they need to release Eir Codes, but something more tangible than East, West, North and South...

No because if they do that then you'll have people behaving the opposite in the areas where there are currently no confirmed cases.

Ah sure it's not here so I'll go on as normal attitude.

I don't think there any real benefit to the public knowing the locations.

LRNM · 17-03-2020 06:37PM

My parents are due to holiday in Greece at the end of April.
I've been trying to tell them for weeks now that it's cancelled but they're in so much denial.

Doesn't help that bookings.com are being pure scummy and leading them on saying all is well and their bookings are still valid etc.

Kermit.de.frog · 17-03-2020 06:38PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1239963765241569281

wakka12 · 17-03-2020 06:38PM

It's still not being taken seriously by young people here at all. My sister who is in secondary school was asked out by a group of friends to go shopping and then for dinner in town, she wasnt allowed to by my parents, but still

Christy42 · 17-03-2020 06:38PM

Irish_peppa wrote: »

But sure if Idris Elba has it and has no symptoms couldnt 50% of the population have this virus allready and not even know !

Yeah. The stats are interesting but also more of a sign of how much testibg a country is doing.

However 50% having it and not knowing it isn't a bad thing. As long as they are not visiting their Granny's and other at risk people they won't pass it onto them. Then they will get over it and likely have immunity bringing in hers immunity. Unfortunately we are unlikely to be that lucky

Humberto Salazar · 17-03-2020 06:39PM

walshb wrote: »

I’d be wary these celebs and their virus claims....

Anything for column inches.

Slight smell of cynicism there, but I could be wrong...

Strazdas · 17-03-2020 06:40PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1239963765241569281

How does that compare to Monday......are the numbers still climbing day on day?

RoryMac · 17-03-2020 06:40PM

owlbethere wrote: »

Would Ireland turn out better if we added in one of Boris Johnsons techniques and if Ireland was to ask the over 70s to self isolate or reduce their - outings. Our health service might be able to cope a little bit better.

I definitely think over 70s should be told to isolate immediately but they need to put proper supports in place for these people with food deliveries and even just people to call in to spend time with them helping them set up communication to family and friends so that they don't feel the isolation means they are forgotten.

Probably missed the boat on this though as the from talking to family and friends today it seems the majority of the country are either working from home or off work indefinitely now. But still these supports for the most vulnerable need to be ramped up immediately

pjohnson · 17-03-2020 06:40PM

walshb wrote: »

I’d be wary these celebs and their virus claims....

Anything for column inches.

Tbf after Trudeau's wife there was an image of Elba, Lewis Hamilton and Trudeau's wife at an event together doing the rounds this weekend. Its not like Elba's test came from nowhere he was exposed to a positive case so symptoms or not he was exposed and carrying.

We've been told from the start you can have it with no symptoms developed for a while.

citytillidie · 17-03-2020 06:41PM

LRNM wrote: »

My parents are due to holiday in Greece at the end of April.
I've been trying to tell them for weeks now that it's cancelled but they're in so much denial.

Doesn't help that bookings.com are being pure scummy and leading them on saying all is well and their bookings are still valid etc.

All booking sites will do that, they do not want to lose out on money until they have to

Hobgoblin11 · 17-03-2020 06:41PM

Jesus the positive numbers will sky rocket once the new test kits arrive on Thursday

RandomName2 · 17-03-2020 06:41PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

This.

A positive result is not a death sentence or cause for panic.

Oh absolutely. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that all 69 people may recover. This has never been about individual cases though, but about spread.

Think about cancer. Now think the complete opposite. That's covid-19.

The risk isn't so much in terms of the individual, but the wider community. The worry with the 69 cases should be the question 'who may they have spread the infection to'.

It is reasonable to assume that there may be no fatality in 69 infections, it becomes unreasonable at 200 infections. 69 cases should be easy for our health services to cope with. The issue is if we find ourselves with 20000 infections. That's perfectly possible, but it is also perfectly possible to prevent it.

greenpilot · 17-03-2020 06:41PM

For a country of under 5 million, we Irish have contributed enormously to solving the problems of countless countries around the world for hundreds of years. Our Engineers, Scientists, Mathematicians, etc are up there with the best in the world. We are very good problem solvers and necessity is the mother of all invention.
We will bring this Virus to church. I'm convinced of it. We are some of the worst self deprecating people on the planet, but when our backs are against the wall, we kick was and chew gum.
We've just run out of gum.
Our front line workers will rise to the challenge and we will be an example of how to deal with this crisis the right way, while at the same time retaining our dignity and social cohesion. Our society has a strange quirk which will get us through this, especially if you compare us as a people to those in the UK and lots of European countries.

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP