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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #6272
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,503 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Cupatae wrote: »
    why dont they just lock down the country, instead of waiting and seeing and doing it in bits and pieces.

    Define lockdown?

    Cannot completely lockdown..


  • #6273
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,503 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    trapp wrote: »
    And that excites you does it?

    What?

    Are you for fooking real?


  • #6274
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    When is the daily briefing?


  • #6275
    shesty
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    It's rising, more stricter lock down needed, how many cases are from returnees?

    What's the full population of ROI? And also NI?

    We expect it to rise.
    It is the rate at which it is rising is the key thing.
    We cannot make it stop, but we can limit the speed or the rate of change each day.That is the aim.Stop looking at the end total there (because already a proportion of them are over it) and start looking at what the increase is compared to yesterday and the day before etc.


  • #6276
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Do restaurants have to close or is it just pubs? I see a restaurant open on the Temple Bar cam.

    They can implement social distancing more easily so not obliged to close.


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  • #6277
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    wadacrack wrote: »
    4.5% of people tested are positive. That's very high

    Not compared to mainland, up to 20-25% coming back positive in Netherlands, Denmark


  • #6278
    dharma200
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭dharma200


    KingBobby wrote: »
    Sorry if its already been asked...
    But how did Italy come to have such an old population?

    Good diet. Nice climate.


  • #6279
    completedit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    trapp wrote: »
    Maybe I'm missing something but surely people are staring to realise that the new cases are not death sentences.

    The vast, vast majority of the 69 new cases today will recover, most without even needing hospital care.

    Actually the fact that cases are being identified is a positive as it means they should stop passing on the virus.

    Idiots getting hysterical about new cases

    I haven’t understood this since last week. Am I missing something? The new cases count just seems to be information for information sake so people can feed into the anxiety of the situation. It’s genuinely confusing.


  • #6280
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    leavingirl wrote: »
    As of the 13th of March, just two people in Italy died from COVID19 who did not have other underlying health issues.


    Where are you getting those figures from?


  • #6281
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    shesty wrote: »
    We expect it to rise.
    It is the rate at which it is rising is the key thing.
    We cannot make it stop, but we can limit the speed or the rate of change each day.That is the aim.Stop looking at the end total there (because already a proportion of them are over it) and start looking at what the increase is compared to yesterday and the day before etc.
    As they said yesterday the next seven days are crucial.


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  • #6282
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    cosanostra wrote: »
    Not sure this is the best idea! https://twitter.com/Jim_Sheridan/status/1239951175602049027?s=20

    That's an appalling attempt at social distancing


  • #6283
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,118 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Get Real wrote: »
    It's not going to be exactly 30% every day. But even so, it actually was an increase of 30.9%.

    223 cases, increase by 69 to 292.

    69/223 =30.9% increase.

    Figures he was using in the press briefing was a 30% increase of new positive each day - was it not? Something like 350 cases a day within the week


  • #6284
    grindle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    threeball wrote: »
    FFS, I think you are away with the fairies if you think those numbers are bad. I suggest you only look at ICU and number of deaths from here on.

    Presume the worst to prepare for it. 275 cases. 20% of cases are severe as in needing hospitalisation. Not seeking it, but needing it. Near 60 people who need repirators in Ireland, all in one month, in a country that keeps less than 300 respirators for normal business.

    20-30% reduction in lung capacity for people who get through it, lung cancer will increase over the next 2-3 decades due to dead cells mutating or being cockblocked. The new norm.

    "Be grand"

    I hope the people who went to Cheltenham and Templebar last week choke on their own stupidity.


  • #6285
    Shn99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    New measures signed off in the cabinet sub committee this evening
    -Power to shut down mass gatherings
    -Power to detain someone who has COVID 19 but wont self isolate

    Will be passed in a Dail hearing tomorrow

    Credit - RTE


  • #6286
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    https://twitter.com/Saudi_Gazette/status/1239634666971373569

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #6287
    Bojill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Bojill


    Does anybody know how quickly the hse contact you after a doctors referral?
    Wife was referred yesterday, just trying to gauge when she'll be tested.


  • #6288
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    meath4sam wrote: »
    So I got a call today to say a guy in work has tested positive . I had contact with him early last week. I have no symptoms.
    I have been asked to stay out of work until early next week 14 days. Would I be entitled to full pay due to it being out of my control and I am well and willing to work.

    You can get social welfare.


  • #6289
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    11 deaths in the tiny country San Marino. Population just 33k


  • #6290
    This is it
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭This is it


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Do restaurants have to close or is it just pubs? I see a restaurant open on the Temple Bar cam.

    I presume it's advised only at the moment. An Indian and McDonald's open beside me, not not only drive through! :rolleyes:


  • #6291
    KingBobby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭KingBobby


    So we already have a higher number of cases per million population than China...
    59 cases per million in Ireland, and 56 per million in china


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  • #6292
    Talisman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Humberto Salazar wrote: »
    Sorry deleted post accidentally. This study from China suggests those with A type blood have significantly higher risk of infection from COVID-19 than O type. No idea if anyone else has done this, I'm sure it will be. It's just a sample and changes nothing, even though as a O type myself, would take any solace I can at this stage.

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.11.20031096v1
    This intrigued me so I decided to take a look at the numbers.

    World Population By Percentage Of Blood Types
    A : ~29%
    B : ~23%
    AB : ~6%
    O : ~41%

    In China the percentages vary greatly in the various ethnic populations. See Frequencies and ethnic distribution of ABO and RhD blood groups in China: a population-based cross-sectional study for reference.

    Percentage ranges for blood types across ethnic groups in China:
    A : 25~34%
    B : 26~34%
    AB : 7~10%
    O : 27~38%

    In the study, the percentages for the sample in the local population is reported as:

    A : 32.16%
    B : 24.90%
    AB : 9.10%
    O : 33.84%

    Hubei province is predominantly populated by the Han ethnic group (~96%).

    Blood type percentages for Han ethnic group. (Difference versus local sample above is in brackets)
    A : 31% (-1)
    B : 29% (+4)
    AB : 10% (+1)
    O : 30% (-4)

    Percentage blood types for Covid-19 cases in study. (Difference versus Han percentages above is in brackets)

    A: 37.75% (+7)
    B: 26.42% (-3)
    AB: 10.03% (0)
    O: 25.80% (-4)

    Now look at the differences between those in the study and the 'local' vs Han ethnic group :
    A: +6 vs +7
    B: +1 vs -3
    AB: +1 vs 0
    O: -8 vs -4

    Either way the A blood group seems to be disproportionately represented in the Covid-19 cases, but there's a big swing in the B and O blood types. Given the sample size I have my doubts as to whether the study means anything.


  • #6293
    completedit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    owlbethere wrote: »
    That's an appalling attempt at social distancing

    What were they thinking? This isn’t the time for Elderly in the community initiatives. :confused:


  • #6294
    swarlb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭swarlb


    Cupatae wrote: »
    why dont they just lock down the country, instead of waiting and seeing and doing it in bits and pieces.

    What exactly does 'lockdown' mean ?? Everyone just stays in doors till Corona goes away ? How exactly does a 'lockdown' work ?

    Who provides the services ? (If everyone stays indoors)
    Who get the food (If everyone is in lockdown)
    Who fixes things that might break (if the country is locked away)


  • #6295
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    frisbeeface wrote: »
    Any figures on how many of the cases require intensive care?

    No. Officially that is too scary for people to handle. Will be revealed via WhatsApp in due course. AKA the grapevine.


  • #6296
    meath4sam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭meath4sam


    mcgucc22 wrote: »
    maybe ask your employer??

    It’s paddy’s day so just wondering where I stand but thanks would of never thought of that. Is there anyone in the same situation I presume I would not qualify for the sick benefit if I’m not sick


  • #6297
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Italy cases have plateaued in the past few days

    We won’t see benefits of lockdown for at least 2 weeks.


    Yes.
    Nationwide lockdown started last week-end: 8 and 9 March.
    Bearing in mind the incubation period, the new cases reported today are those who became infected before the start of the nationwide lockdown.


  • #6298
    shesty
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    is_that_so wrote: »
    As they said yesterday the next seven days are crucial.

    Absolutely.
    And if we keep going at this rate I think I would actually view it as a positive.


  • #6299
    Xertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    dharma200 wrote: »
    Good diet. Nice climate.

    Actually, the fact that more developed countries (that have been developed for longer) and that would include all of Western Europe and the US and so on, all have older and sicker populations because they've had very robust and high tech health systems for a long time.

    The issues is that none of those systems are designed for a major outbreak of something they can't treat with high tech medicine. This is very much a Florence Nightingale nursing scenario. We're depending just on our own immune systems fighting back and supporting patients with respirator equipment and basic measures.

    We would be more likely to rate a system as good because it can successfully treat complicated issues like cancer, cardiac problems and so on and extend our lives well into our 80s. We don't generally expect them to have vast amounts of basic respirator units.


  • #6300
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,775 ✭✭✭threeball


    thomas 123 wrote: »
    I think we will see more cases but a lot more tests will highlight it’s not so rampant hopefully.

    To be fair to the government they are doing as much as we can ask of them and they are acting fast.

    Wouldn't we be better if it was rampant and we weren't getting the serious cases and deaths. The sooner it works through the better.


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  • #6301
    Mwengwe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    leavingirl wrote: »
    As of the 13th of March, just two people in Italy died from COVID19 who did not have other underlying health issues.

    Just on that day you mean?


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