CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

Cork Boy 53 · 17-03-2020 06:06PM

leavingirl wrote: »

As of the 13th of March, just two people in Italy died from COVID19 who did not have other underlying health issues.

Where are you getting those figures from?

is_that_so · 17-03-2020 06:06PM

shesty wrote: »

We expect it to rise.
It is the rate at which it is rising is the key thing.
We cannot make it stop, but we can limit the speed or the rate of change each day.That is the aim.Stop looking at the end total there (because already a proportion of them are over it) and start looking at what the increase is compared to yesterday and the day before etc.

As they said yesterday the next seven days are crucial.

owlbethere · 17-03-2020 06:06PM

cosanostra wrote: »

Not sure this is the best idea! https://twitter.com/Jim_Sheridan/status/1239951175602049027?s=20

That's an appalling attempt at social distancing

fritzelly · 17-03-2020 06:07PM

Get Real wrote: »

It's not going to be exactly 30% every day. But even so, it actually was an increase of 30.9%.

223 cases, increase by 69 to 292.

69/223 =30.9% increase.

Figures he was using in the press briefing was a 30% increase of new positive each day - was it not? Something like 350 cases a day within the week

grindle · 17-03-2020 06:07PM

threeball wrote: »

FFS, I think you are away with the fairies if you think those numbers are bad. I suggest you only look at ICU and number of deaths from here on.

Presume the worst to prepare for it. 275 cases. 20% of cases are severe as in needing hospitalisation. Not seeking it, but needing it. Near 60 people who need repirators in Ireland, all in one month, in a country that keeps less than 300 respirators for normal business.

20-30% reduction in lung capacity for people who get through it, lung cancer will increase over the next 2-3 decades due to dead cells mutating or being cockblocked. The new norm.

"Be grand"

I hope the people who went to Cheltenham and Templebar last week choke on their own stupidity.

Shn99 · 17-03-2020 06:07PM

New measures signed off in the cabinet sub committee this evening
-Power to shut down mass gatherings
-Power to detain someone who has COVID 19 but wont self isolate

Will be passed in a Dail hearing tomorrow

Credit - RTE

silverharp · 17-03-2020 06:07PM

https://twitter.com/Saudi_Gazette/status/1239634666971373569

Bojill · 17-03-2020 06:07PM

Does anybody know how quickly the hse contact you after a doctors referral?
Wife was referred yesterday, just trying to gauge when she'll be tested.

Away With The Fairies · 17-03-2020 06:07PM

meath4sam wrote: »

So I got a call today to say a guy in work has tested positive . I had contact with him early last week. I have no symptoms.
I have been asked to stay out of work until early next week 14 days. Would I be entitled to full pay due to it being out of my control and I am well and willing to work.

You can get social welfare.

wakka12 · 17-03-2020 06:07PM

11 deaths in the tiny country San Marino. Population just 33k

KingBobby · 17-03-2020 06:07PM

So we already have a higher number of cases per million population than China...
59 cases per million in Ireland, and 56 per million in china

Talisman · 17-03-2020 06:08PM

Humberto Salazar wrote: »

Sorry deleted post accidentally. This study from China suggests those with A type blood have significantly higher risk of infection from COVID-19 than O type. No idea if anyone else has done this, I'm sure it will be. It's just a sample and changes nothing, even though as a O type myself, would take any solace I can at this stage.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.11.20031096v1

This intrigued me so I decided to take a look at the numbers.

World Population By Percentage Of Blood Types
A : ~29%
B : ~23%
AB : ~6%
O : ~41%

In China the percentages vary greatly in the various ethnic populations. See Frequencies and ethnic distribution of ABO and RhD blood groups in China: a population-based cross-sectional study for reference.

Percentage ranges for blood types across ethnic groups in China:
A : 25~34%
B : 26~34%
AB : 7~10%
O : 27~38%

In the study, the percentages for the sample in the local population is reported as:

A : 32.16%
B : 24.90%
AB : 9.10%
O : 33.84%

Hubei province is predominantly populated by the Han ethnic group (~96%).

Blood type percentages for Han ethnic group. (Difference versus local sample above is in brackets)
A : 31% (-1)
B : 29% (+4)
AB : 10% (+1)
O : 30% (-4)

Percentage blood types for Covid-19 cases in study. (Difference versus Han percentages above is in brackets)

A: 37.75% (+7)
B: 26.42% (-3)
AB: 10.03% (0)
O: 25.80% (-4)

Now look at the differences between those in the study and the 'local' vs Han ethnic group :
A: +6 vs +7
B: +1 vs -3
AB: +1 vs 0
O: -8 vs -4

Either way the A blood group seems to be disproportionately represented in the Covid-19 cases, but there's a big swing in the B and O blood types. Given the sample size I have my doubts as to whether the study means anything.

completedit · 17-03-2020 06:08PM

owlbethere wrote: »

That's an appalling attempt at social distancing

What were they thinking? This isn’t the time for Elderly in the community initiatives.

swarlb · 17-03-2020 06:08PM

Cupatae wrote: »

why dont they just lock down the country, instead of waiting and seeing and doing it in bits and pieces.

What exactly does 'lockdown' mean ?? Everyone just stays in doors till Corona goes away ? How exactly does a 'lockdown' work ?

Who provides the services ? (If everyone stays indoors)
Who get the food (If everyone is in lockdown)
Who fixes things that might break (if the country is locked away)

caveat emptor · 17-03-2020 06:08PM

frisbeeface wrote: »

Any figures on how many of the cases require intensive care?

No. Officially that is too scary for people to handle. Will be revealed via WhatsApp in due course. AKA the grapevine.

meath4sam · 17-03-2020 06:08PM

mcgucc22 wrote: »

maybe ask your employer??

It’s paddy’s day so just wondering where I stand but thanks would of never thought of that. Is there anyone in the same situation I presume I would not qualify for the sick benefit if I’m not sick

otnomart · 17-03-2020 06:08PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

Italy cases have plateaued in the past few days

We won’t see benefits of lockdown for at least 2 weeks.

Yes.
Nationwide lockdown started last week-end: 8 and 9 March.
Bearing in mind the incubation period, the new cases reported today are those who became infected before the start of the nationwide lockdown.

shesty · 17-03-2020 06:08PM

is_that_so wrote: »

As they said yesterday the next seven days are crucial.

Absolutely.
And if we keep going at this rate I think I would actually view it as a positive.

Xertz · 17-03-2020 06:08PM

dharma200 wrote: »

Good diet. Nice climate.

Actually, the fact that more developed countries (that have been developed for longer) and that would include all of Western Europe and the US and so on, all have older and sicker populations because they've had very robust and high tech health systems for a long time.

The issues is that none of those systems are designed for a major outbreak of something they can't treat with high tech medicine. This is very much a Florence Nightingale nursing scenario. We're depending just on our own immune systems fighting back and supporting patients with respirator equipment and basic measures.

We would be more likely to rate a system as good because it can successfully treat complicated issues like cancer, cardiac problems and so on and extend our lives well into our 80s. We don't generally expect them to have vast amounts of basic respirator units.

threeball · 17-03-2020 06:08PM

thomas 123 wrote: »

I think we will see more cases but a lot more tests will highlight it’s not so rampant hopefully.

To be fair to the government they are doing as much as we can ask of them and they are acting fast.

Wouldn't we be better if it was rampant and we weren't getting the serious cases and deaths. The sooner it works through the better.

Mwengwe · 17-03-2020 06:09PM

leavingirl wrote: »

As of the 13th of March, just two people in Italy died from COVID19 who did not have other underlying health issues.

Just on that day you mean?

caveat emptor · 17-03-2020 06:09PM

Good article in Irish Times about how being Rich is a vaccine of sorts for corona.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/we-have-a-vaccine-for-the-coronavirus-being-rich-1.4195275

Achasanai · 17-03-2020 06:09PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

It's rising, more stricter lock down needed, how many cases are from returnees?

What's the full population of ROI? And also NI?

The general consensus seems to be that any lockdown will only have an impact after 2 weeks (perhaps due to the display of symptoms?) Italy's cases are rising judging from the figures, but suggestions (from reputable sources, it would seem) are that particularly bad areas hit - and that have implemented a lockdown/social distancing policy - are seeing noticeable decreases in cases.

Harry Palmr · 17-03-2020 06:10PM

wakka12 wrote: »

11 deaths in the tiny country San Marino. Population just 33k

Which is an enclave within Italy.

SleetAndSnow · 17-03-2020 06:10PM

41 more cases in the East presumably Dublin and suburbs/commuter towns and another 13 in the south presumably cork. Dublin’s spreading very fast

pjohnson · 17-03-2020 06:10PM

So still right on track for health servives to be overwhelmed. And people still bleating about the economy.

spookwoman · 17-03-2020 06:10PM

69 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Ireland. 29 male, 40 female. 48 are associated with the east of the country, 13 are associated with the south, 5 are associated with the north/west, and 3 are associated with the west

17-03-2020 06:11PM

IRELAND

Info released 11th Feb - 65 tested 0 confirmed for period start (?) up to Mon 10th Feb
Info released 19th Feb - 78 tested 0 confirmed - 13 new tests in week Tue 11th to Mon 18th Feb
Info released 25th Feb 90 tested 0 confirmed - 12 new tests in week Tue 19th - Mon 24th Feb
Info released 3rd March 397 tested 2 confirmed - 307 tests in week Tue 25th Feb to Mon 2nd March
Info released 10th March 1784 tested 34 (+32) confirmed - 1387 tests in week Tue 3rd Mar to Mon 9th March

Info released 17th March 6636 tested 292 (+258) confirmed 2 deaths - 4852 tests in week Tue 10th March to Mon 16th March

namloc1980 · 17-03-2020 06:11PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhMSeiI9Yi4

Frontline nurses in Italy. Exhausted and with faces cut and bruised from continuously wearing masks and eye protection.

spookwoman · 17-03-2020 06:11PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

41 more cases in the East presumably Dublin and suburbs/commuter towns and another 11 in the south presumably cork. Dublin’s spreading very fast

and waterford we have a few here as well

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP